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Re: Nine Gone

Post by Fumper27 » 07 Oct 2024, 21:53

Liam Byrne off to Salford I’m led to believe

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Re: Nine Gone

Post by KB80 » 07 Oct 2024, 21:55

Was always likely to stay that side of the penines. Do wonder how Salford fund some of there signings though.

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Re: Nine Gone

Post by Mucky1978 » 07 Oct 2024, 22:11

Fumper27 wrote: 07 Oct 2024, 21:53 Liam Byrne off to Salford I’m led to believe
Can’t blame him good side.

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Re: Nine Gone

Post by The Firm » 07 Oct 2024, 22:15

Mucky1978 wrote: 07 Oct 2024, 22:11
Fumper27 wrote: 07 Oct 2024, 21:53 Liam Byrne off to Salford I’m led to believe
Can’t blame him good side.
Front row was probably their weakness. Chuck in Byrne & Hill into their 17 and they look strong.

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Re: Nine Gone

Post by The Firm » 07 Oct 2024, 22:37

Leon Ruan is leaving the Rhinos, he’dbe a handy pick up. 21 years old, big lad, prop or second row. Would be an upgrade on Luis Johnson for sure and bags of potential to improve further.

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Re: Nine Gone

Post by heritage1926 » 08 Oct 2024, 08:20

Fumper27 wrote: 07 Oct 2024, 21:53 Liam Byrne off to Salford I’m led to believe
You can always guarantee that any Wigan player off contract will always likely end up at Salford.

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Re: Nine Gone

Post by gateman » 08 Oct 2024, 10:15

the way Salford are once again splashing the cash i can only see trouble ahead for them 3/4 thousand gates shared stadium can hardly support their outgoings i should think

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Re: Nine Gone

Post by tigerfeat » 08 Oct 2024, 10:29

Sky did a survey off all clubs spend Salford were well down the list only spending a estimated 1.7 million of the 2.1 million if that's correct theve done a tremendous job getting the results they have and playing an attractive style of rugby
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Re: Nine Gone

Post by orrsome » 08 Oct 2024, 10:58

It used to be that Koukash bank rolled Salford, but since he went they don’t seem to have problems attracting (and paying) decent players.
It prompts the question, how do they do it with crowds of 3-4k?
The cynical amongst us might suspect their declared salary cap spending may not be accurate!

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Re: Nine Gone

Post by heritage1926 » 08 Oct 2024, 11:03

tigerfeat wrote: 08 Oct 2024, 10:29 Sky did a survey off all clubs spend Salford were well down the list only spending a estimated 1.7 million of the 2.1 million if that's correct theve done a tremendous job getting the results they have and playing an attractive style of rugby
Estimated spending for 2024.

Wigan Warriors – £3.1m
Warrington Wolves – £3m
Catalans Dragons – £3m
St Helens – £2.7m
Huddersfield Giants – £2.7m
Leeds Rhinos – £2.7m
Hull KR – £2.4m
Leigh Leopards – £2.2m
Hull FC – £1.8m
Salford Red Devils – £1.7m
Castleford Tigers – £1.7m
London Broncos – £1.4m

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Post by StevieTheTV » 08 Oct 2024, 11:14

heritage1926 wrote: 08 Oct 2024, 11:03
tigerfeat wrote: 08 Oct 2024, 10:29 Sky did a survey off all clubs spend Salford were well down the list only spending a estimated 1.7 million of the 2.1 million if that's correct theve done a tremendous job getting the results they have and playing an attractive style of rugby
Estimated spending for 2024.

Wigan Warriors – £3.1m
Warrington Wolves – £3m
Catalans Dragons – £3m
St Helens – £2.7m
Huddersfield Giants – £2.7m
Leeds Rhinos – £2.7m
Hull KR – £2.4m
Leigh Leopards – £2.2m
Hull FC – £1.8m
Salford Red Devils – £1.7m
Castleford Tigers – £1.7m
London Broncos – £1.4m
2 things stick out for me from that list....

Huddersfield - Appalling value return from their squad.
Salford - Great value return from their squad.
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Post by pat » 08 Oct 2024, 11:32

How is that a level playing field

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Re: Nine Gone

Post by Tamworth Tiger » 08 Oct 2024, 11:33

Catalans look a bit shabby too

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Post by StevieTheTV » 08 Oct 2024, 11:38

pat wrote: 08 Oct 2024, 11:32 How is that a level playing field
Its a level playing field as the exemptions are available to all who wish to use them. Clubs like us, Salford etc shouldn't be holding the likes of Wigan back, if they have the money to spend that is.
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Re: Nine Gone

Post by Mysterio » 08 Oct 2024, 12:00

old cas lass wrote: 07 Oct 2024, 19:38
Mysterio wrote: 07 Oct 2024, 19:21 We need two great props and 2 great back rowers imo; a good centre…

All good quality at least anyway.

Expect the 9 going frees up around 600k on the cap, and we’re already under the cap by another 500k at the very least, more like 1m?

So I’d expect us to have circa £750k available to use in my very rough estimation. If you don’t agree, how much do you think we’ll make available?

That’s 1 or 2 excellent signings and another 5 or 6 good ones…
No idea M.
We all know the clubs way, on the cheap.
I’m not expecting to much but hoping for the best.
Knew we were over a million down on full cap.

Make that 1.6m to spend. If we could afford it or WANTED to.

Realistically reckon we’ve got a war chest right now…
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Re: Nine Gone

Post by gateman » 08 Oct 2024, 12:05

tigerfeat wrote: 08 Oct 2024, 10:29 Sky did a survey off all clubs spend Salford were well down the list only spending a estimated 1.7 million of the 2.1 million if that's correct theve done a tremendous job getting the results they have and playing an attractive style of rugby
i look at their squad a good number will be on high wages they must have their eyes on expenditure away from playing and support staff maybe we should be doing the same with the number of staff we employ are the paid ones earning their corn ?

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Re: Nine Gone

Post by Martiger » 08 Oct 2024, 13:33

heritage1926 wrote: 08 Oct 2024, 11:03
tigerfeat wrote: 08 Oct 2024, 10:29 Sky did a survey off all clubs spend Salford were well down the list only spending a estimated 1.7 million of the 2.1 million if that's correct theve done a tremendous job getting the results they have and playing an attractive style of rugby
Estimated spending for 2024.

Wigan Warriors – £3.1m
Warrington Wolves – £3m
Catalans Dragons – £3m
St Helens – £2.7m
Huddersfield Giants – £2.7m
Leeds Rhinos – £2.7m
Hull KR – £2.4m
Leigh Leopards – £2.2m
Hull FC – £1.8m
Salford Red Devils – £1.7m
Castleford Tigers – £1.7m
London Broncos – £1.4m
Does anyone think If you added £700,000 to our spend this year do you think we would have got anywhere near 2nd or GF like HKR.

I’d imaging that buys you a quality half, 2 decent props and a squad player.

Personally not so sure with that we’d have been anywhere close to competing for anything different than what or where we have finished this year, maybe would have achieved 7-8. I still think big changes are needed going into 25/26. 🤷‍♀️

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Re: Nine Gone

Post by 5menofsteel » 08 Oct 2024, 15:22

Mysterio wrote: 08 Oct 2024, 12:00
old cas lass wrote: 07 Oct 2024, 19:38
Mysterio wrote: 07 Oct 2024, 19:21 We need two great props and 2 great back rowers imo; a good centre…

All good quality at least anyway.

Expect the 9 going frees up around 600k on the cap, and we’re already under the cap by another 500k at the very least, more like 1m?

So I’d expect us to have circa £750k available to use in my very rough estimation. If you don’t agree, how much do you think we’ll make available?

That’s 1 or 2 excellent signings and another 5 or 6 good ones…
No idea M.
We all know the clubs way, on the cheap.
I’m not expecting to much but hoping for the best.
Knew we were over a million down on full cap.

Make that 1.6m to spend. If we could afford it or WANTED to.

Realistically reckon we’ve got a war chest right now…
Why over £ 1 M down ? Isn't the salary cap £2.1 M

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Re: Nine Gone

Post by SpiritOf94 » 08 Oct 2024, 15:35

Salford have the luxury of being able to sign Wigan's, saints and Warrington's off contract unwanted players just by their location. Successful players, just not quite good enough for whatever reason at the 3 successful teams. This will always benefit Salford, been seen every season for years.
We have the 2 hull teams, Huddersfield and Leeds to pick their unwanted players and with competition from big spending Wakey, it’s slim pickings. Add in we’re not an attractive prospect for players due to all the negativity around the club and the img upheaval. Will take some time and luck to turn it around.

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Re: Nine Gone

Post by Mysterio » 08 Oct 2024, 16:05

5menofsteel wrote: 08 Oct 2024, 15:22
Mysterio wrote: 08 Oct 2024, 12:00
old cas lass wrote: 07 Oct 2024, 19:38
Mysterio wrote: 07 Oct 2024, 19:21 We need two great props and 2 great back rowers imo; a good centre…

All good quality at least anyway.

Expect the 9 going frees up around 600k on the cap, and we’re already under the cap by another 500k at the very least, more like 1m?

So I’d expect us to have circa £750k available to use in my very rough estimation. If you don’t agree, how much do you think we’ll make available?

That’s 1 or 2 excellent signings and another 5 or 6 good ones…
No idea M.
We all know the clubs way, on the cheap.
I’m not expecting to much but hoping for the best.
Knew we were over a million down on full cap.

Make that 1.6m to spend. If we could afford it or WANTED to.

Realistically reckon we’ve got a war chest right now…
Why over £ 1 M down ? Isn't the salary cap £2.1 M
Good question.
Looks like it's £3m to me, including marquee. Otherwise the clubs spending that or near that amount would be relegated or points docked
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