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Re: Cini Signed

Post by yorky » 28 Aug 2024, 10:01

gateman wrote: 28 Aug 2024, 08:57 if we have shown a loss, Mr Jepson and Mr Fulton, should be looking at the staff we employ away from the players and coaches , and make sure they are all pulling their weight , this would happen in most firms
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BOARD OF DIRECTORS
Chairman - Ian Fulton
Club President - Brian Ashworth
Company Secretary - Rob Clarkson
Board Member - Steve Vause
Board Member - Dion Lowe
Board Member - Mark Grattan
Martin Jepson 20-12-23
ADMINISTRATION
Managing Director - Mark Grattan
General Manager - Richard Pell
Senior Accounts Executive - Dawn Smeaton
Accounts Executive - Tracy Kirk
Marketing and Digital Executive - Adam Scotson
Ticketing Manager - Mark Gill
Daily Draw Executive - Lucinda Horner
Head of Operations - Chris Powell
Commercial Director - Laura Kirk 07949173685 called me 2-2-24 to tell me about new TIGERS TV & that roar will be free to view on facebook in the coming weeks
Commercial Admin & Events Executive - Elle Hughes
Business Development Executive - Andy Luff
Head Groundsman - Stuart Vause
Stadium Manager - Mark Langshaw
Club Photographer - Simon Hall
Operations Manager - Ross Grattan
Bar Manager - Mark Poppleton
ELITE PERFORMANCE
Assistant Coach - Craig Lingard
Head of Rugby & Development - Danny Wilson
Head of Strength & Conditioning - Adam Whitney
Head of Analysis - Danny Blundell
Head Physiotherapist - Matt Crowther
First Team Physiotherapist - Amy Wesson
Assistant Strength & Conditioning Coach - Martin Clawson
Sports Scientist - Jordan Fentiman
Club Doctor - Nick Raynor

YOUTH DEVELOPMENT
Head of Youth Development - Rob Nickolay
Player Performance Manager - Matty Faulkner
Reserves Head Coach - Scott Murrell
Academy/Reserves Coaches - Chris Spurr
Academy head of physical performance – Nathan Freer
Academy/Reserves Strength & Conditioning Coaches – Jordan Fentiman, Brydey Farmer, Toby Giddings
Academy/Reserves Mental Skills Coaches - Katherine Skelton
Academy/Reserves Diet & Nutrition – Tasha Lobley
Academy/Reserves Doctors – DR Nick Raynor & DR Sophie England
Academy/Reserves Physio - Hannah Martin
Academy/Reserves Analysis - Harry Howarth
Scholarship Coaches - Richard Garbett, Chris Cartwright, Danny Lazenby
Scholarship Physio - Lauren Turner
Scholarship Strength & Conditioning Coach – Jon Dryden
Scholarship Diet & Nutrition - Leeds Beckett University
Head of Talent ID & Recruitment - Steve Copley
Youth & Junior Welfare - Keith Lambeth, Ash Gibson, Ian Gayles
Wellbeing & Parent Liaison manager – Pete Longbottom
Strength and Conditioning Partners - Leeds Trinity University
Diet and Nutrition Education Partners - Leeds Beckett University
Mental Skills Education Providers - Leeds Beckett University
College Education partners – SCL education
University Pathway partners – University centre Leeds

Academy Board
Independent Chair – Tony Fretwell
OXEN CEO – Lee Jenkinson
Director of Rugby – Danny Wilson
Welfare Manager – Richard Pell
Head of Youth Development – Rob Nickolay

TIGERS FOUNDATION COMMUNITY TEAM

Head of Operations - Mat Lancaster
Head of Women’s Rugby and Pathways Manager - Mat Lancaster
Tigresses Coaches - Rob Richardson, Paul Watson and Chris Smith
Tigresses Strength and Conditioning Coach - Tony Giddings
Tigresses Physiotherapist: Janis Dakteris
Schools Multi-Sport & Dance Manager - Michaela Anderson
Community Development Officer - Laura Carlin
Community Development Officer & PDRL coach - Jamie Beards
LDRL Coaches - Anthony Summerfield and Carl Roberts
Dance Development Officer - Ella Norman
Dance Development Officer - Kayleigh Goddard
Dance Development Officer - Ella Jennings

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Re: Cini Signed

Post by The Firm » 28 Aug 2024, 10:39

jackknife wrote: 28 Aug 2024, 08:21
The Firm wrote: 28 Aug 2024, 07:38
jackknife wrote: 28 Aug 2024, 05:20 Looks like everyone has already made their mind up about this kid before he's even got on the plane just off what some journo's opinion.

If he's better than Hall n Tate its a step in the right direction, can anyone imagine either of them 2 or even Wood making 4 NRL apps?

Im excited to see the kid playing against the rest of the 2nd rate players currently playing SL.
Making 4 NRL appearances doesn’t mean much, remember Jordan Tansey made 7!

The problem with the article is whether it is accurate ir not it is another negative release about the club. Unfortunately the brown stuff sticks and the damage is done.

I imagine our accounts showing an operating loss of half a million won’t go down great either.
Jordan Tansey made close to 200 professional appearance scoring plenty of points n winning various trophies so i dont see the reference.
Tansey was rubbish! A bit part player as a young lad in the golden generation Leeds team thst got him a move to Australia. He was the ultimate journeyman after that, not very good wherever he went. The reference is even crap players can get a few NRL games before the clubs realise they are crap.

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Post by The Firm » 28 Aug 2024, 10:58

Tamworth Tiger wrote: 28 Aug 2024, 08:35
The Firm wrote: 28 Aug 2024, 07:38
jackknife wrote: 28 Aug 2024, 05:20 Looks like everyone has already made their mind up about this kid before he's even got on the plane just off what some journo's opinion.

If he's better than Hall n Tate its a step in the right direction, can anyone imagine either of them 2 or even Wood making 4 NRL apps?

Im excited to see the kid playing against the rest of the 2nd rate players currently playing SL.
Making 4 NRL appearances doesn’t mean much, remember Jordan Tansey made 7!

The problem with the article is whether it is accurate ir not it is another negative release about the club. Unfortunately the brown stuff sticks and the damage is done.

I imagine our accounts showing an operating loss of half a million won’t go down great either.
Is that big in Superleague terms? Only. Hull, Wakefield and Salford posted smaller ones in 2022 and they were all over £500k
I believe Saints latest is over £2 million
Possibly not and i ain’t going through them all. But for a club our size without the facilities to run as a 365 days a year business running up losses of over 500K a year isn’t sustainable long term (it’s about 650k this year in reality). It’s why staying in super league this year is vital, to give us time to get the WR development up and running. The business model doesn’t really work in super league, in the championship it would be a slow death.

The ground has been revalued which makes the books look better however about half it’s value is already taken up against loans secured against it (mainly director loans to be fair) so liquidity there would soon disappear if we dropped.

So anybody still considering going to that last home game the choice is easy. You want a club long term get down there.

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Post by Tamworth Tiger » 28 Aug 2024, 12:53

I agree with all that and you’re absolutely right.. My only point is that in the context of others looking at us, our operating loss isn’t one of the things that we should be being criticised for in comparison with other SL teams

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Post by westyorkylad » 28 Aug 2024, 12:53

The reality is that all SL clubs run at a loss and ultimately you need an owner who is prepared to keep putting his hand in his pocket to fund the difference.

We had that with JF albeit he secured the money given to the club against the ground, IF on the other hand clearly does not want to keep putting his hand in his pocket to fund the club, hence us trying at present to cut our cloth to the actual funds annually available, the fact we are running a budget squad is a result of that, this is where the money is going, which is a question regularly asked by some on here.

Ultimately we need to be able to generate more revenue and also have an owner prepared to put his hand in his pocket and fund the clubs annual losses.

There is a blue print for a club attempting to run within the annual funds available and its Wakefield and that didnt go so well for them, luckily they have a new owner who looks like he is prepared to fund the club, and with that investment in better players etc, no doubt their attendance will increase, but they will still ultimately run at a loss. The new owners appetite to fund that loss is good news for them, and could see them genuinely progressing.

Salford are currently doing ok without a benefactor, but there financial woes will resurface sooner rather than later unless they can find an owner who is prepared to fund them.

the only other team I can think off who dont have an owner/benefactor to keep funding them is Leeds, who have the biggest attendance/catchment and also a ground that is a money making machine in terms of revenue.

My hope is that IF is awaiting the development of the ground before selling up as this will make the value of the club more and hence he will receive more. It will also, you would think, hopefully make the club a more attractive proposition for a potential buyer.

Its no coincidence that all the clubs who regularly occupy the top 4 places in SL season in and season out have the following 3 x things in place.

1) An owner prepared to fund their losses
2) A conveyor belt of the best youth talent
3) An average crowd in excess of 10k

Leeds, Wigan, Sts, Wire and even Catalans all have the above to various levels, the 2 clubs who have all 3 in place and have done for a good number of years are Wigan and Saints, so its little wonder they regularly top the table.

Under Powell, we had the owner, a poor conveyor belt of the best youth and an average of around 8500k but with a very astute coach at the top of his game and some shrewd signings we managed to top the table in 2017, we were never going to be able to keep repeating that without, improving the conveyor belt of the best youth and also increasing the gate to an average closer to 10k.

Now we have none of the 3 key things required, and we are trying to reduce the annual costs to match the revenue coming in ala Wakefield previously, and similar to them we are now bouncing along at the bottom end of the table with no real sign of moving up it.

As I said hopefully we will get a new owner, I suspect after the ground is developed and its a case of survival mode until then, hopefully I am wrong and it can happen faster, as a supporter I want to watch a successful team as much as the next fan, but I dont see that happening any time soon at the minute.....................

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Post by KB80 » 28 Aug 2024, 14:24

The game is massively underfunded and this has only got worse with payments to IMG alongside reduced tv money. It's hard to see this changing anytime soon (NRL takeover been the way I can see it).

Clubs now get less than league 2 football sides in terms of central funding.

Unfortunately the game has been run into the ground.

I do wonder how are team like Salford can be sustainable once the Croft/Ackers/Fans money is gone.

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Post by Tamworth Tiger » 28 Aug 2024, 14:43

westyorkylad wrote: 28 Aug 2024, 12:53 The reality is that all SL clubs run at a loss and ultimately you need an owner who is prepared to keep putting his hand in his pocket to fund the difference.

We had that with JF albeit he secured the money given to the club against the ground, IF on the other hand clearly does not want to keep putting his hand in his pocket to fund the club, hence us trying at present to cut our cloth to the actual funds annually available, the fact we are running a budget squad is a result of that, this is where the money is going, which is a question regularly asked by some on here.

Ultimately we need to be able to generate more revenue and also have an owner prepared to put his hand in his pocket and fund the clubs annual losses.

There is a blue print for a club attempting to run within the annual funds available and its Wakefield and that didnt go so well for them, luckily they have a new owner who looks like he is prepared to fund the club, and with that investment in better players etc, no doubt their attendance will increase, but they will still ultimately run at a loss. The new owners appetite to fund that loss is good news for them, and could see them genuinely progressing.

Salford are currently doing ok without a benefactor, but there financial woes will resurface sooner rather than later unless they can find an owner who is prepared to fund them.

the only other team I can think off who dont have an owner/benefactor to keep funding them is Leeds, who have the biggest attendance/catchment and also a ground that is a money making machine in terms of revenue.

My hope is that IF is awaiting the development of the ground before selling up as this will make the value of the club more and hence he will receive more. It will also, you would think, hopefully make the club a more attractive proposition for a potential buyer.

Its no coincidence that all the clubs who regularly occupy the top 4 places in SL season in and season out have the following 3 x things in place.

1) An owner prepared to fund their losses
2) A conveyor belt of the best youth talent
3) An average crowd in excess of 10k

Leeds, Wigan, Sts, Wire and even Catalans all have the above to various levels, the 2 clubs who have all 3 in place and have done for a good number of years are Wigan and Saints, so its little wonder they regularly top the table.

Under Powell, we had the owner, a poor conveyor belt of the best youth and an average of around 8500k but with a very astute coach at the top of his game and some shrewd signings we managed to top the table in 2017, we were never going to be able to keep repeating that without, improving the conveyor belt of the best youth and also increasing the gate to an average closer to 10k.

Now we have none of the 3 key things required, and we are trying to reduce the annual costs to match the revenue coming in ala Wakefield previously, and similar to them we are now bouncing along at the bottom end of the table with no real sign of moving up it.

As I said hopefully we will get a new owner, I suspect after the ground is developed and its a case of survival mode until then, hopefully I am wrong and it can happen faster, as a supporter I want to watch a successful team as much as the next fan, but I dont see that happening any time soon at the minute.....................
Interesting post. A lot to think about in there

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Post by westyorkylad » 29 Aug 2024, 12:18

KB80 wrote: 28 Aug 2024, 14:24 The game is massively underfunded and this has only got worse with payments to IMG alongside reduced tv money. It's hard to see this changing anytime soon (NRL takeover been the way I can see it).

Clubs now get less than league 2 football sides in terms of central funding.

Unfortunately the game has been run into the ground.

I do wonder how are team like Salford can be sustainable once the Croft/Ackers/Fans money is gone.
You have correctly identified in my opinion what is currently keeping them going funds wise and I predict once this runs out, and it will because they are still ultimately operating at a loss, then they are going to be financial trouble once again.

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Post by old cas lass » 11 Nov 2024, 15:22

Anyone know if he’s over yet.

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Post by pat » 11 Nov 2024, 15:26

Last year they put photos of them in airport when they were coming over

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Post by old cas lass » 11 Nov 2024, 15:45

pat wrote: 11 Nov 2024, 15:26 Last year they put photos of them in airport when they were coming over
So that's a no then.
No reason he can’t have got over for first day of pre season.
We’ve know a couple of months he’s signed.

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Post by alftupper » 11 Nov 2024, 18:25

old cas lass wrote: 11 Nov 2024, 15:45
pat wrote: 11 Nov 2024, 15:26 Last year they put photos of them in airport when they were coming over
So that's a no then.
No reason he can’t have got over for first day of pre season.
We’ve know a couple of months he’s signed.
What sort of rinky dink outfit are we operating if we can’t get an employee across for their first day of work? Lose count of the times posters on here trot out the hackneyed excuse ‘well if only he had a full pre-season behind him’ so already a ready made excuse for this player, if as it seems he’s not here.

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Post by Mucky1978 » 11 Nov 2024, 18:28

Hopefully we are trying get out of the deal so we can have two aussie props.

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Post by yorky » 12 Nov 2024, 08:33

we used to get updates from the cat tigers pod casts but they seem to have disappeared?

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Post by heritage1926 » 12 Nov 2024, 09:28

He's got a clause in his contract, where he can come over once weather warms up.

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Post by Mysterio » 12 Nov 2024, 09:40

Is DA & JR here then?

Maybe ZC is ending rehab…?
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Post by Nu Shooze » 12 Nov 2024, 13:53

alftupper wrote: 11 Nov 2024, 18:25
old cas lass wrote: 11 Nov 2024, 15:45
pat wrote: 11 Nov 2024, 15:26 Last year they put photos of them in airport when they were coming over
So that's a no then.
No reason he can’t have got over for first day of pre season.
We’ve know a couple of months he’s signed.
What sort of rinky dink outfit are we operating if we can’t get an employee across for their first day of work? Lose count of the times posters on here trot out the hackneyed excuse ‘well if only he had a full pre-season behind him’ so already a ready made excuse for this player, if as it seems he’s not here.
You really should let us in on the secret to your eternal positivity and ever-optimistic view of the club.

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Post by noxandrattles » 12 Nov 2024, 14:01

:lol:
Nu Shooze wrote: 12 Nov 2024, 13:53
alftupper wrote: 11 Nov 2024, 18:25
old cas lass wrote: 11 Nov 2024, 15:45
pat wrote: 11 Nov 2024, 15:26 Last year they put photos of them in airport when they were coming over
So that's a no then.
No reason he can’t have got over for first day of pre season.
We’ve know a couple of months he’s signed.
What sort of rinky dink outfit are we operating if we can’t get an employee across for their first day of work? Lose count of the times posters on here trot out the hackneyed excuse ‘well if only he had a full pre-season behind him’ so already a ready made excuse for this player, if as it seems he’s not here.
You really should let us in on the secret to your eternal positivity and ever-optimistic view of the club.
:) :) :) ;)

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Post by alftupper » 12 Nov 2024, 16:13

the bloke's got a free pass with our usual posters, I can just hear them now; 'with a good pre-season behind him he'll come good... in 2026'

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Post by Mucky1978 » 12 Nov 2024, 16:29

Doesn’t look like the clubs adding any forwards.

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