Stadium.

[yorky]

exactly!!

[Robbo]

Is that Robbo being his usual happy optimistic self.?

ROBBO
Is delighted that Martin has taken control. Finally moved on the from the people who have tried to destroy this club.

However the "shed cycle" has gone for now.

[tigerfeat]

I'm no great fan of IF by any means but do you really think he was trying to destroy the club ?

[yorky]

the problem was, as his dad Jack said "we are surviving not thriving" & that was our problem, we were going backwards / stagnant, lets hope MJ has got us improving?

[St Albans tiger]

I sat in a conference last week - primarily aimed at the industrial retail market - and one "really interesting" comment was made around the warehousing requirements in Yorkshire as a whole - there is clearly a lot of speculative warehousing being built in Yorkshire and across the country but following the boom of online shopping and the need for large scale distribution centres - there appears to be a bit of a tailing off on this market.

But what was noted by a valuer at CBRE was that there is a huge demand for general warehousing/industrial units - specifically for manufacturing companies that have been overlooked in the last 4/5 years

It would not surprise me one bit if the plans for glasshoughton we altered slightly for more general industrial sites compared to distribution as originally identified. Its not a major change but would need the designs re-done

[sirocco7]

I sat in a conference last week - primarily aimed at the industrial retail market - and one "really interesting" comment was made around the warehousing requirements in Yorkshire as a whole - there is clearly a lot of speculative warehousing being built in Yorkshire and across the country but following the boom of online shopping and the need for large scale distribution centres - there appears to be a bit of a tailing off on this market.

But what was noted by a valuer at CBRE was that there is a huge demand for general warehousing/industrial units - specifically for manufacturing companies that have been overlooked in the last 4/5 years

It would not surprise me one bit if the plans for glasshoughton we altered slightly for more general industrial sites compared to distribution as originally identified. Its not a major change but would need the designs re-done

The planning permission is Hybrid, it’s been submitted with the intention of changing the design on the units to suit the specification of the occupants.

“Hybrid planning application seeking: (i) full planning permission for enabling works including incidental coal extraction to create development platforms along with off-site highways improvements and site access and installation of other supporting infrastructure, in addition to: (ii) outline planning permission for 141,085 sq. m employment development of which 105,834 sq. m of B8 floorspace and 35,251 sq. m (E(g)(ii), E(g)(iii), B2 or B8 floorspace together with ancillary offices and an electrical vehicle charging station (Sui generis), and hard and soft landscaping.”

[yorky]

so sirocco7, does this mean we are still on for a 12 million windfall?

[TheMotleyFox]

It would be good if Martin could provide us with an update on planned works for the ground as it is now, replacing the cladding & turnstiles, lowering the Princess Street barrier and generally tidying up the stadium and making it look presentable. Some of this was supposed to be done with the Resilience fund from the council but things seem to have gone quiet?

[sirocco7]

so sirocco7, does this mean we are still on for a 12 million windfall?

I’ve no reason to say no as it stands. The information is all available for anybody to see on the planning portal.

[sirocco7]

It would be good if Martin could provide us with an update on planned works for the ground as it is now, replacing the cladding & turnstiles, lowering the Princess Street barrier and generally tidying up the stadium and making it look presentable. Some of this was supposed to be done with the Resilience fund from the council but things seem to have gone quiet?

I agree I’ve made some comments on Facebook and X about this .

[Year of the Tiger]

so sirocco7, does this mean we are still on for a 12 million windfall?

It will only go ahead once the developers deem it financially viable.
At present i think it is unlikely, or even highly unlikely.
I posted earlier that Axiom have been looking for another development partner or potentially offloading to another developer.

The £12.2 million is an issue for Axiom, and as I understand they want to renegotiate the S106 agreement in order to progress the scheme.

There is approximately 30,000 tons of coal on site. There are no coal fired power stations left in the UK. In 2014, the value of the coal was circa £5.5m. At that time coal suppied 39& of UK energy, last year it was less than 2%.
Axiom after extracting the coal would have used the proceeds to part fund the development. Would this still be the case?

As suggested by some, it would be good if the club could give an update.

However, any update may be limited in nature due to commercial confidentiality.

Steve Gill stated in 2014, we would be in a brand new stadium for 2017.
Martin Jepson has indicated 2026 for any significant renovation.

Unfortunately, the club are heavily dependent on others, this may preclude any update with respect to Axiom.

[5menofsteel]

I think that this uncertainty is the reason why we had to improve WR to secure the full stadium points . As thing stand , although not ideal for potential extra revenue that a new stand would bring , we are safe in the knowledge that WR now meets all necessary criteria for maximum stadium score .

This does take away an immediate need for the new stand in terms of IMG gradings , which is fantastic for the club , but as mentioned , the longer we have to wait , the more it hits us financially.

The irony is that if/when we do start work on the new stand , we would potentially lose 1.5 points in IMG gradings (1 point for stadium and 0.5 points for attendance as capacity without main stand and terracing next to it would drop too low to meet the necessary 7.5k average required) . Perhaps contingency plans are in place for this though as , with the new seats in PS seats totalling 1.7k we could keep our full stadium score with an additional 300 seats if/when the upgrade takes place.

[sirocco7]

so sirocco7, does this mean we are still on for a 12 million windfall?

It will only go ahead once the developers deem it financially viable.
At present i think it is unlikely, or even highly unlikely.
I posted earlier that Axiom have been looking for another development partner or potentially offloading to another developer.

The £12.2 million is an issue for Axiom, and as I understand they want to renegotiate the S106 agreement in order to progress the scheme.

There is approximately 30,000 tons of coal on site. There are no coal fired power stations left in the UK. In 2014, the value of the coal was circa £5.5m. At that time coal suppied 39& of UK energy, last year it was less than 2%.
Axiom after extracting the coal would have used the proceeds to part fund the development. Would this still be the case?

As suggested by some, it would be good if the club could give an update.

However, any update may be limited in nature due to commercial confidentiality.

Steve Gill stated in 2014, we would be in a brand new stadium for 2017.
Martin Jepson has indicated 2026 for any significant renovation.

Unfortunately, the club are heavily dependent on others, this may preclude any update with respect to Axiom.

I find the comment about the 106 agreement unlikely, it was only signed at the start of last month.

[gateman]

RE IMG scoring System , how unfair it would be IF IF IF the club got the go ahead for the new stand whilst this was in progress we lose points, so loosing our A listing

[The Firm]

so sirocco7, does this mean we are still on for a 12 million windfall?

It will only go ahead once the developers deem it financially viable.
At present i think it is unlikely, or even highly unlikely.
I posted earlier that Axiom have been looking for another development partner or potentially offloading to another developer.

The £12.2 million is an issue for Axiom, and as I understand they want to renegotiate the S106 agreement in order to progress the scheme.

There is approximately 30,000 tons of coal on site. There are no coal fired power stations left in the UK. In 2014, the value of the coal was circa £5.5m. At that time coal suppied 39& of UK energy, last year it was less than 2%.
Axiom after extracting the coal would have used the proceeds to part fund the development. Would this still be the case?

As suggested by some, it would be good if the club could give an update.

However, any update may be limited in nature due to commercial confidentiality.

Steve Gill stated in 2014, we would be in a brand new stadium for 2017.
Martin Jepson has indicated 2026 for any significant renovation.

Unfortunately, the club are heavily dependent on others, this may preclude any update with respect to Axiom.

Axiom are not looking to renegotiate the S106 at all, in fact they only signed it exactly a month ago. It is set in stone and the council would not entertain any changes. As for the coal, a lot of the product extracted from opencast in the country has been for export abroad for a long time now, demand is still high elsewhere. They will have no problem selling it.

[5menofsteel]

RE IMG scoring System , how unfair it would be IF IF IF the club got the go ahead for the new stand whilst this was in progress we lose points, so loosing our A listing

It would be difficult to take if it did cost us Category A and subsequently SL status . However , MJ has said that he thinks we are looking at 2026 now before any movement on the stadium front , which may fall nicely into place with the new TV deal . If an increase in the value of a new TV deal at the end of 2026 can support an extra 2 SL clubs , which has recently been mentioned for the future , then we will still hopefully make the top 14 irrespective of potential points lost during any upgrade .

[Tamworth Tiger]

Think I read somewhere that Catalans have a similar stadium problem

[TheMotleyFox]

Somethings happening down at the ground anyway, Cas have posted a picture of Massey on a digger. Caption says that the club are having some work done at the ground.

[yorky]

Somethings happening down at the ground anyway, Cas have posted a picture of Massey on a digger. Caption says that the club are having some work done at the ground.

lets hope something with the ground upgrade is happening?

[Robbo]

we still have a chunk of WMDC money to work with.

Several posts back some asked about IF.

He divided the club by getting rid of all the shareholders.............................. and plenty more lies,fake news etc

However I am now looking forward and, i am enjoying the challenge of bringing back to the club those lost over the last 10 years.

I for one will be supporting MJ and his team once he gets things sorted.

Robbo