IMG Gradings

[Railway end man 2021]

Maybe Toulouse will target 2025 win every championship competition what then ?won't we be in the same scenario next year carnt see us improving on much next season to what we can this season other than performance points but recruitment wise so far nothing suggests we will be in place to win a
competition

Winning the championship as strong advantage over being 10th in super league as Wakefield have claimed

[Wallystar]

The performance points awarded are averaged out on the last 3 years.
Wakefield can only win the Grand Final and 1895 cup in one of those years.( This year )
Coming top of the championship does not score top points, you have to win the Championship Grand Final.
As I put in another thread Performance points are an average.
Cas average score if we finish bottom this year would be 2.9714
Wakefield winning both finals can only average 2.8976.
Therefore Wakefield cannot score more performance points than us averaged out over last 3 seasons.

[5menofsteel]

The performance points awarded are averaged out on the last 3 years.
Wakefield can only win the Grand Final and 1895 cup in one of those years.( This year )
Coming top of the championship does not score top points, you have to win the Championship Grand Final.
As I put in another thread Performance points are an average.
Cas average score if we finish bottom this year would be 2.9714
Wakefield winning both finals can only average 2.8976.
Therefore Wakefield cannot score more performance points than us averaged out over last 3 seasons.

Hi Wallystar ,

Yes they can . The bonus points for winning GF (0.25) and 1895 Cup (0.1) are not averaged out over 3 years . They are awarded in full in the season that they win these competitions . Therefore , Wakefield would be awarded an extra 0.35 points on top of their average score , meaning that we would have to finish 4 places or more above them (averaged over 3 years ) to get more performance points than them this year .

All this is , of course , dependent on them winning GF and 1895 Cup . If they win neither , or just 1895 Cup , then we would score more on performance than them.

[Tamworth Tiger]

Do we get anything for cup QF this year?

[5menofsteel]

Do we get anything for cup QF this year?

Hi TT , sadly not , winner of CC only , gets 0.25 points

[Tamworth Tiger]

[Railway end man 2021]

Both Leigh and Salford have upgraded there academy status so will receive a update in there IMG points

[Wallystar]

The performance points awarded are averaged out on the last 3 years.
Wakefield can only win the Grand Final and 1895 cup in one of those years.( This year )
Coming top of the championship does not score top points, you have to win the Championship Grand Final.
As I put in another thread Performance points are an average.
Cas average score if we finish bottom this year would be 2.9714
Wakefield winning both finals can only average 2.8976.
Therefore Wakefield cannot score more performance points than us averaged out over last 3 seasons.

Hi Wallystar ,

Yes they can . The bonus points for winning GF (0.25) and 1895 Cup (0.1) are not averaged out over 3 years . They are awarded in full in the season that they win these competitions . Therefore , Wakefield would be awarded an extra 0.35 points on top of their average score , meaning that we would have to finish 4 places or more above them (averaged over 3 years ) to get more performance points than them this year .

All this is , of course , dependent on them winning GF and 1895 Cup . If they win neither , or just 1895 Cup , then we would score more on performance than them.

Hi Fivemen,
Sorry, I did not realise the bonus points were added to final position points in full and not averaged.
They do have to win both finals though to get above us on performance.
Hopefully we will get max points for attendance which is 0.5 point more than Wakefield can achieve.

[jackknife]

Doesn't anyone know how any of the clubs around us have improved their scores? Leigh Salford Wakey n Toulouse? And are Hull fc in danger of dropping pts if they end u bottom?

[5menofsteel]

The performance points awarded are averaged out on the last 3 years.
Wakefield can only win the Grand Final and 1895 cup in one of those years.( This year )
Coming top of the championship does not score top points, you have to win the Championship Grand Final.
As I put in another thread Performance points are an average.
Cas average score if we finish bottom this year would be 2.9714
Wakefield winning both finals can only average 2.8976.
Therefore Wakefield cannot score more performance points than us averaged out over last 3 seasons.

Hi Wallystar ,

Yes they can . The bonus points for winning GF (0.25) and 1895 Cup (0.1) are not averaged out over 3 years . They are awarded in full in the season that they win these competitions . Therefore , Wakefield would be awarded an extra 0.35 points on top of their average score , meaning that we would have to finish 4 places or more above them (averaged over 3 years ) to get more performance points than them this year .

All this is , of course , dependent on them winning GF and 1895 Cup . If they win neither , or just 1895 Cup , then we would score more on performance than them.

Hi Fivemen,
Sorry, I did not realise the bonus points were added to final position points in full and not averaged.
They do have to win both finals though to get above us on performance.
Hopefully we will get max points for attendance which is 0.5 point more than Wakefield can achieve.

Thanks for the reply Wallystar and no problem . It is a bit confusing as other performance points are averaged out . Fingers crossed for the attendance 0.5pts it could end up being the difference between SL 2025 or not .

[5menofsteel]

Doesn't anyone know how any of the clubs around us have improved their scores? Leigh Salford Wakey n Toulouse? And are Hull fc in danger of dropping pts if they end u bottom?

Hi jackknife , unfortunately the way the system works , nobody will know for sure how many points each team has scored until the final IMG points table is revealed for 2024 in October (23rd I think)

We can see some things eg attendances and league positions , but I'm afraid things like Fandom and finances etc aren't something we know how well other teams are performing on .

All we can really do is make sure we score as high as possible as the one thing we do know is that if we score 15 points or more , we become a Category A club and are guaranteed SL status for the following season.

[pat]

Big screen is now fitted photo on Facebook looks good.

[5menofsteel]

Big screen is now fitted photo on Facebook looks good.

Thanks Pat , looks really good . That's another 0.125 points .

[jackknife]

Doesn't anyone know how any of the clubs around us have improved their scores? Leigh Salford Wakey n Toulouse? And are Hull fc in danger of dropping pts if they end u bottom?

Hi jackknife , unfortunately the way the system works , nobody will know for sure how many points each team has scored until the final IMG points table is revealed for 2024 in October (23rd I think)

We can see some things eg attendances and league positions , but I'm afraid things like Fandom and finances etc aren't something we know how well other teams are performing on .

All we can really do is make sure we score as high as possible as the one thing we do know is that if we score 15 points or more , we become a Category A club and are guaranteed SL status for the following season.

Cheers 5men, I was referring to any other clubs doing anything like what we are building seats, big screen ect.

[5menofsteel]

Doesn't anyone know how any of the clubs around us have improved their scores? Leigh Salford Wakey n Toulouse? And are Hull fc in danger of dropping pts if they end u bottom?

Hi jackknife , unfortunately the way the system works , nobody will know for sure how many points each team has scored until the final IMG points table is revealed for 2024 in October (23rd I think)

We can see some things eg attendances and league positions , but I'm afraid things like Fandom and finances etc aren't something we know how well other teams are performing on .

All we can really do is make sure we score as high as possible as the one thing we do know is that if we score 15 points or more , we become a Category A club and are guaranteed SL status for the following season.

Cheers 5men, I was referring to any other clubs doing anything like what we are building seats, big screen ect.

Ah I see. DB has said Leigh are in for another 2.5 pts for their finances , in which case they could be Cat A at the end of the season . No one seems to know about Toulouse or how they have scored so highly in the first place . A few messages on forum mentioned an article saying it's between us and them for 12th spot , but reading article it just seemed to be going on last year's score and not taking into account that we could have an extra point for Stadium improvements , plus potential 0.5 for attendance , not to mention big screen (0.125 points and now fitted) or MJ investment (0.25points) and didn't really mention where Toulouse may improve either . Wakey seem to be quite bullish that they will get in and that seems to be the consensus in the media as well , although that may depend on them getting the 0.35 bonus points for winning GF and 1895 Cup. Salford is a tricky one again . They seem to have their stadium sorted for the foreseeable future now and they were a little ahead of us at the start of this season , as were Huddersfield .

it may well come down to us or Toulouse in the end .

[jackknife]

2.5 pts for finance, thats massive

[Fumper27]

Big screen is now fitted photo on Facebook looks good.

Is that the big screen? Looks more like a billboard to me.

[Tamworth Tiger]

2.5 pts for finance, thats massive

Hmm interesting.

[Captain]

Doesn't anyone know how any of the clubs around us have improved their scores? Leigh Salford Wakey n Toulouse? And are Hull fc in danger of dropping pts if they end u bottom?

Hi jackknife , unfortunately the way the system works , nobody will know for sure how many points each team has scored until the final IMG points table is revealed for 2024 in October (23rd I think)

We can see some things eg attendances and league positions , but I'm afraid things like Fandom and finances etc aren't something we know how well other teams are performing on .

All we can really do is make sure we score as high as possible as the one thing we do know is that if we score 15 points or more , we become a Category A club and are guaranteed SL status for the following season.

Cheers 5men, I was referring to any other clubs doing anything like what we are building seats, big screen ect.

Ah I see. DB has said Leigh are in for another 2.5 pts for their finances , in which case they could be Cat A at the end of the season . No one seems to know about Toulouse or how they have scored so highly in the first place . A few messages on forum mentioned an article saying it's between us and them for 12th spot , but reading article it just seemed to be going on last year's score and not taking into account that we could have an extra point for Stadium improvements , plus potential 0.5 for attendance , not to mention big screen (0.125 points and now fitted) or MJ investment (0.25points) and didn't really mention where Toulouse may improve either . Wakey seem to be quite bullish that they will get in and that seems to be the consensus in the media as well , although that may depend on them getting the 0.35 bonus points for winning GF and 1895 Cup. Salford is a tricky one again . They seem to have their stadium sorted for the foreseeable future now and they were a little ahead of us at the start of this season , as were Huddersfield .

it may well come down to us or Toulouse in the end .

Like others I didn't realise that the 1895 and championship grand final points are added in bulk this season instead of averaged like other performance points, but conversely does that also mean they won't be counted in the 2025 points? Which will be a big drop in performance points for the following season?

[gateman]

what ever will be will be with the IMG points system the lower funded clubs will be looking over their shoulders year in and year out wondering if a lower league club as gained enough points to take their place as now 15 points is the top score as more clubs gain this the goal posts will be moved, making clubs chase their tails , if we were relegated and our long awaited stand was erected we would be in a good position to jump straight back in