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Re: IMG Gradings

Post by old cas lass » 16 May 2024, 11:33

I can’t for the life of me understand some on here agreeing with lingard about not coming to the club if you want to win trophies.
Who plays there own club down, if anyone asnt seen the interview, go check it out, take note of watts eyes. Soon as lingard says that, watts does the biggest eye roll. Says it all.
If that had been Fulton or Gratton the fans would be going crazy.
We all know in the next 5/10 years we won’t win trophies.
But for gods sake don’t go shouting it from the roof tops.
Especially the bloody coach.

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Post by tigerfeat » 16 May 2024, 11:37

Well said ocl astonishing thing to even suggest really
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Post by Tamworth Tiger » 16 May 2024, 11:39

Don’t know who that was aimed at but what I said was don’t expect to be regular winners, taking into account we’ve only won any of what are now the three major ones 5 times in our 98 years of existence and even the best of those, finishing top of the league by 10 points hardly gets a mention on here. Was actually trying to pick the mood up a bit. Never mind.

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Post by tigerfeat » 16 May 2024, 11:43

I was on about what the coach had said you don't say it even if your thinking it
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Post by Tamworth Tiger » 16 May 2024, 11:48

I agree. Just clarifying that my post was not about agreeing with what he said!😂

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Post by The Firm » 16 May 2024, 12:15

GHTiger wrote: 16 May 2024, 07:43 Think Lingard should have probably worded it differently, as it sounds poor out of context, but ultimately I didn’t mind his comments too much.

He was talking exclusively about 2025, in relation to signings, so I think by making the ‘titles’ comment he was just inferring that we’re not looking at players who just want to come on short deals for a realistic shot at silverware in 2025. Because that isn’t going to happen here next year. Realistically we’ll be pretty long odds for a trophy next season.

So basically even the ‘experienced’ players we want to bring in have to buy into the long-term project and can’t be spooked by the idea of another season out of the play-offs, if that’s what it takes.

As I say, it perhaps didn’t need to be said - but at the same time I don’t think any of us with a straight face can say he’s wrong.

We clearly told everyone prior to 2023 that we were building a play-off calibre side and would compete with the big boys. In came oldies on short, expensive deals and as soon as we hit some adversity, look what happened.

I personally don’t mind the honesty.
Agreed. He probably shouldn't have put it as he did but the premise of what he said is correct. We need players who are prepared to buy into the growth of the club over the next 2-3 years to get us back to a position that when the stadium is done and fully functioning we are in a position to challenge the big boys. That is blatently obvious to all. I'm afraid if a throw away line in an interview leads you to keep recycling it over and over again you are adding to the negativity and are becoming part of the problem you are moaning about.

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Post by SpiritOf94 » 16 May 2024, 12:35

Just listened to the interview with CL Wattsy and Deighton on tigers tv, it’s also available on Facebook. And I think the comments from Lingard taken in context for the whole picture he is describing for the building of a squad over the next few years are ok and honest. Any signings are difficult just now he says and any decent player is attracting interest from several parties. factor in the img headache and recruitment for next year will not attract anyone expecting silverware, honest assessment sadly but the bigger picture is building for the future.

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Post by gateman » 16 May 2024, 12:42

on facebook Mr Jepson speaks to the fans well worth a listen

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Post by Railway end man 2021 » 18 May 2024, 11:21

Mathew Shaw just done a breakdown on twitter of IMG points cas v Toulouse ,Toulouse still slightly In front he says cas need performance points ideally (on the field )
What a suprise :roll: when half of fans spouting performance s on the field don't count is all about the ground stick with us ...it's the one area what could cost us our place

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Post by Fumper27 » 18 May 2024, 12:06

It’s irrelevant if our additional points take us above both Leigh and Wakefield

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Post by Railway end man 2021 » 18 May 2024, 12:12

Fumper27 wrote: 18 May 2024, 12:06 It’s irrelevant if our additional points take us above both Leigh and Wakefield
He claims last place is between cas or Toulouse

Again he's journalist I will add

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Post by gateman » 18 May 2024, 12:21

IN MR JEPSON i trust

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Post by Railway end man 2021 » 18 May 2024, 12:40

gateman wrote: 18 May 2024, 12:21 IN MR JEPSON i trust


In gratten...I don't lol

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Post by AllertonBTiger » 18 May 2024, 12:46

Fumper27 wrote: 18 May 2024, 12:06 It’s irrelevant if our additional points take us above both Leigh and Wakefield
First time I've heard that Fumper, Leigh I'm not sure about as they've kept relatively quiet, apart from Derek spouting his usual! But Wakey are on the borderline of getting a A licence which is ridiculous when I think about it. Do you know something we don't or are you just not factoring in the points other teams have improved on?

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Post by AllertonBTiger » 18 May 2024, 12:47

Railway end man 2021 wrote: 18 May 2024, 12:12
Fumper27 wrote: 18 May 2024, 12:06 It’s irrelevant if our additional points take us above both Leigh and Wakefield
He claims last place is between cas or Toulouse

Again he's journalist I will add
I don't think he's far off but I do think we will be above Toulouse quite easily. If anything I think there score will go down.

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Post by Tamworth Tiger » 18 May 2024, 12:58

It’s all clickbait right up to October. No ones really got a clue. It would be a joke to me though if a club who refuses to get involved in knockout competitions can qualify on off field issues whilst we apparently need performance points to get ahead of them.

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Post by KB80 » 18 May 2024, 13:11

Shaws comments seem to be based on us not getting any additional scores for the ground, attendance or finance.

I'd hope Jepson had checked and invested in a way that counts on scores and if directors loans don't count are the likes of Davy and Co just gifting money into there clubs?

If we are investing money in the ground assumedly we are doing it in a way that hits the criteria we need and checking that and checking it again.

Shaw alludes to the fact that our attendances are inflated, only the club can be inflating them and if so they would know they wouldn't count. It's quite easily resolved just let every one in for a pound for the last home games of the season to push the score up if we need to.

It's just clickbait for me. But massively unhelpful for the club in times of trying to sign players and reassure fans and such.
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Post by Railway end man 2021 » 18 May 2024, 13:12

To me they should have kept promotion and relegation and if the bottom club scores lower on facilities,finance etc than the championship team than deduct them points following season in super league, least give everybody a chance at the big time regardless .clubs will put plan in place to avoid any possible points reduction or recruit well to compete to make up well they fail in other areas

For example Wakefield replace London straight swap 2024 ,2025 example Sheffield replace cas ,cas grade higher so Sheffield start super league on -4 cas start championship on +4

I don't know seems better than what in offer now and like football in championpship with rescue package

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Post by 5menofsteel » 18 May 2024, 13:30

I think that if Matt Shaw hasn't taken into account any extra score for us on the stadium (other than big screen) or finances , not to mention the possibility of an extra 0.5pts for attendance or the 0.25pts assured for MJ investment , then that should mean we will be comfortably ahead of Toulouse .

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Re: IMG Gradings

Post by Tamworth Tiger » 18 May 2024, 13:41

I’d also be interested to know how we have inflated attendances. What evidence is there of that, and what would be the point?
There seems to be a lot of lazy and unhelpful journalism being done with no proper factual research in the name of ‘Love’ or being ‘serious about’ rugby league when neither appear to be the case.
Shameful really.

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