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Re: season tickets

Post by ERG2012 » 18 Jan 2022, 23:09

Any of the folks on here know how many Season Tickets have actually been sold?

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Re: season tickets

Post by gateman » 18 Jan 2022, 23:20

gateman wrote: 18 Jan 2022, 22:26 i intend to purchase two tickets for the Salford game using my season ticket have they got them at Carlton lanes ?
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Post by Swagger » 24 Jan 2022, 21:14

Over 3500 signed up now.... anyone know what sort of figures we usually get?

Would be good to compare on recent years.

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Post by CasAttack » 24 Jan 2022, 21:59

Id imagine the 3.5k is more than normal as the club don't normally give out official figures regards season tickets. Hopefully the first game against Salford should see a pretty decent crowd down the lane.

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Re: season tickets

Post by mart0042 » 25 Jan 2022, 10:53

It uses to be around 2.5 so we are buying into the new era, which is great.

At 3.5, that's halfway towards the 7k we need to spend the cap ( or that's what it used to be)

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Post by Year of the Tiger » 25 Jan 2022, 11:17

mart0042 wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 10:53 It uses to be around 2.5 so we are buying into the new era, which is great.

At 3.5, that's halfway towards the 7k we need to spend the cap ( or that's what it used to be)
The current finite salary cap is £2.1m with dispensations for marquee, home grown player developments etc
The salary cap has been virtually entirely funded since 2014 via the increase tv deal.

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Post by heritage1926 » 25 Jan 2022, 11:43

The new membership scheme is the best thing Cas could have done and begs the question, why not earlier. Me, my dad and brother wouldn't have bought a season ticket this year outright, so that's £750 right there that Cas didn't have last season. I've also been told that ticket sales have earnt the club between the £450-£500k mark, that's fantastic.

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Re: season tickets

Post by gateman » 25 Jan 2022, 14:04

your right there mate whoever suggested the new way of paying bringing it in the range that some of our fans can now afford wants a clap on the back

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Post by Scoopage » 25 Jan 2022, 22:41

I bit the bullet today and bought a membership.just hoping loads of games don’t get moved this year too Thursday nights

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Re: season tickets

Post by mart0042 » 26 Jan 2022, 10:55

Year of the Tiger wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 11:17
mart0042 wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 10:53 It uses to be around 2.5 so we are buying into the new era, which is great.

At 3.5, that's halfway towards the 7k we need to spend the cap ( or that's what it used to be)
The current finite salary cap is £2.1m with dispensations for marquee, home grown player developments etc
The salary cap has been virtually entirely funded since 2014 via the increase tv deal.
Didn't know that, it was always the 7k cried that was mentioned as the point we needed to achieve. Fantastic that it doesn't matter anymore.

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Post by Fumper27 » 26 Jan 2022, 11:20

mart0042 wrote: 26 Jan 2022, 10:55
Year of the Tiger wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 11:17
mart0042 wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 10:53 It uses to be around 2.5 so we are buying into the new era, which is great.

At 3.5, that's halfway towards the 7k we need to spend the cap ( or that's what it used to be)
The current finite salary cap is £2.1m with dispensations for marquee, home grown player developments etc
The salary cap has been virtually entirely funded since 2014 via the increase tv deal.
Didn't know that, it was always the 7k cried that was mentioned as the point we needed to achieve. Fantastic that it doesn't matter anymore.
I think the 7k referred to was average attendance and not season ticket holders.

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Post by gateman » 26 Jan 2022, 12:08

the club will be more than happy with the extra fans that have signed up for the direct debit its great for cash flow through the off season

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Re: season tickets

Post by mart0042 » 26 Jan 2022, 12:31

Fumper27 wrote: 26 Jan 2022, 11:20
mart0042 wrote: 26 Jan 2022, 10:55
Year of the Tiger wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 11:17
mart0042 wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 10:53 It uses to be around 2.5 so we are buying into the new era, which is great.

At 3.5, that's halfway towards the 7k we need to spend the cap ( or that's what it used to be)
The current finite salary cap is £2.1m with dispensations for marquee, home grown player developments etc
The salary cap has been virtually entirely funded since 2014 via the increase tv deal.
Didn't know that, it was always the 7k cried that was mentioned as the point we needed to achieve. Fantastic that it doesn't matter anymore.
I think the 7k referred to was average attendance and not season ticket holders.
That's what I thought and the 3.5k is half whether they attend or not.

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Post by Martiger » 26 Jan 2022, 19:56

heritage1926 wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 11:43 The new membership scheme is the best thing Cas could have done and begs the question, why not earlier. Me, my dad and brother wouldn't have bought a season ticket this year outright, so that's £750 right there that Cas didn't have last season. I've also been told that ticket sales have earnt the club between the £450-£500k mark, that's fantastic.
That’s great the club have a provisional 450-500k in sales, however I understand it to be direct debited monthly. What happens say theoretically cas loose first 4 games how many supports then say they aren’t going or paying and cancel the DD and the club loose money? The way it is the club will only have all 450-500k in once every supporter has made there last payment.
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Post by Surreycasfan » 26 Jan 2022, 20:33

I think the whole point of being a member of a club you love is not to ‘take your ball home’ as soon as we lose a couple of games.
From what we saw with fans donating season ticket money in 2020 I think these 3,500 members are in it for the love of the club.
The other 3,000 core fans love the club but just prefer to pay on the day or are working shifts etc… so it makes sense financially not to be out of pocket.
The other 3,000 that turn up for big games and when we are doing well - will always do so.

I think the club have done a great job in the last 4 months, marketing is on the up, massive increase in revenue, some sort of light at the end of tunnel on the ground, and a playing group that looks exciting to watch, coached by a guy who seems to be pressing all the right buttons so far.

Sorry for being so cheerful, but I can’t wait for Friday 11th Feb to get here!

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Post by FIat Capper » 27 Jan 2022, 12:54

Pardon my ignorance as I'm finance expert but whilst it is physically possible to simply cancel a direct debit payment, like any financial agreement there must be a 'contract' in which the debtor has signed up to pay the 'debt'. therefore they remain liable for the remainder of the debt and cab be pursued through the courts.

I've not become a member so don't know how the agreement has been drawn up but I would hope there's a clause that includes annual renewal so any debt only covers the cost of one season?

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Re: season tickets

Post by bane73 » 27 Jan 2022, 13:05

Well I've finally bought my membership this morning... Talk about dragging my heels. That 3501 if figures are accurate 🤣🤣🤣
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Re: season tickets

Post by Martiger » 27 Jan 2022, 15:43

FIat Capper wrote: 27 Jan 2022, 12:54 Pardon my ignorance as I'm finance expert but whilst it is physically possible to simply cancel a direct debit payment, like any financial agreement there must be a 'contract' in which the debtor has signed up to pay the 'debt'. therefore they remain liable for the remainder of the debt and cab be pursued through the courts.

I've not become a member so don't know how the agreement has been drawn up but I would hope there's a clause that includes annual renewal so any debt only covers the cost of one season?
This is my point - is it a credit agreement so the club get paid out already. Even if just a small percentage of people don’t pay or even 1 member cancel etc and the club haven’t already had the money the club will suffer, which none of us want!
If they have the money upfront we have it - not banking that it’ll come.

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Re: season tickets

Post by Casmania » 27 Jan 2022, 16:43

FIat Capper wrote: 27 Jan 2022, 12:54 Pardon my ignorance as I'm finance expert but whilst it is physically possible to simply cancel a direct debit payment, like any financial agreement there must be a 'contract' in which the debtor has signed up to pay the 'debt'. therefore they remain liable for the remainder of the debt and cab be pursued through the courts.

I've not become a member so don't know how the agreement has been drawn up but I would hope there's a clause that includes annual renewal so any debt only covers the cost of one season?
I was involved with the 2013 membership scheme.
There were substantial set up - both hardware and software - costs.

Running costs weren't cheap either, especially the direct debit charges.
There was also a significant minority who cancelled their direct debits after one or two payments. Some of these cancellations were quickly sorted by a telephone call or a follow up letter.
Some never fully paid, the club was advised it was not worthwhile pursuing those individuals.
Fraudulent use was another issue, which I won't go into on here.
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Re: season tickets

Post by jackknife » 27 Jan 2022, 17:23

Id assume if you're direct debit wasn't paid then you're season ticket would be void, the 1st payment will cover the costs of the games before the next payment and so on. Similar to gym memberships, you stop paying you cant get in.
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