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Re: Feki

Post by FIat Capper » 11 Nov 2021, 13:20

By season's end, every player in a squad has got a knock, bump or swelling somewhere on their body. The majority have get through to this stage with simple recovery techniques but a few may have injections to get through the pain. Some unfortunate souls will have had season's ending injuries as well such as a ruptured achilles, which you just cannot hide.

So, it would be easy to say 'X' player is injured as they probably are to a minor degree but no fan on here could ever rely on predicting which ones will get the worst case scenario.

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Re: Feki

Post by the changeling » 11 Nov 2021, 15:45

Fumper27 wrote: 10 Nov 2021, 15:07 My feelings aren’t strange, just based on the facts I found to counteract your usual tosh and nonsense.
Your obsession is showing

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Re: Feki

Post by gateman » 11 Nov 2021, 18:27

if at last the lad is declared FIT after over two years out of the game it will be a big ask to return to his AUS form

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Re: Feki

Post by mart0042 » 12 Nov 2021, 11:01

I've just listened to a podcast about Adam Forshaw at Leeds United. He made his start for over 2 years last week. What started out was a possible strain and rest should fix it, led to teeth being removed and then a hip replacement or similar. Then he got a variety of minor injuries during his comeback. He's now fully fit, in fact Bielsa fit, which is another level.

There were only a few mutings of pay him off and get rid but most were of the view that he was injured during football and so should be allowed to get fit and try again.

I know there's a lot more money in football but shouldn't we work to a similar principle? Just s thought.

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Re: Feki

Post by Casforthecup » 14 Nov 2021, 14:40

Can someone clear something up for me?

Are we paying Feki? If not who is?

I have seen posters say that he is it exempt, but I think this only applies to the salary cap not to his actual wages?

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Re: Feki

Post by sirocco7 » 14 Nov 2021, 16:51

Casforthecup wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 14:40 Can someone clear something up for me?

Are we paying Feki? If not who is?

I have seen posters say that he is it exempt, but I think this only applies to the salary cap not to his actual wages?
We are paying Feki, he’s a contracted player at our club. Posters suggesting that insurance pays players wages when they are injured is nonsense.

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Re: Feki

Post by Casforthecup » 14 Nov 2021, 17:31

Cheers

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Re: Feki

Post by westerbeast73 » 14 Nov 2021, 17:58

sirocco7 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 16:51
Casforthecup wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 14:40 Can someone clear something up for me?

Are we paying Feki? If not who is?

I have seen posters say that he is it exempt, but I think this only applies to the salary cap not to his actual wages?
We are paying Feki, he’s a contracted player at our club. Posters suggesting that insurance pays players wages when they are injured is nonsense.
Then what's the point having player insurance if it doesn't pay out ?

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Re: Feki

Post by gateman » 14 Nov 2021, 18:17

just think what the insurance would be when we renew if they have been paying Fekis wages over the last two years

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Re: Feki

Post by alftupper » 14 Nov 2021, 19:17

gateman wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 18:17 just think what the insurance would be when we renew if they have been paying Fekis wages over the last two years
We are probably already paying the price Gateman, he’s been with us 2 years and I would guess our insurance cost would have been reviewed in that time.

The words Sosaia Feki is to player insurance what subsidence and flood are to buildings insurance I would imagine

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Re: Feki

Post by sirocco7 » 14 Nov 2021, 19:37

westerbeast73 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 17:58
sirocco7 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 16:51
Casforthecup wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 14:40 Can someone clear something up for me?

Are we paying Feki? If not who is?

I have seen posters say that he is it exempt, but I think this only applies to the salary cap not to his actual wages?
We are paying Feki, he’s a contracted player at our club. Posters suggesting that insurance pays players wages when they are injured is nonsense.
Then what's the point having player insurance if it doesn't pay out ?
The insurance is for medical expenses and a payout if the player is forced to retire due to injury.

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Re: Feki

Post by westerbeast73 » 14 Nov 2021, 20:58

sirocco7 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 19:37
westerbeast73 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 17:58
sirocco7 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 16:51
Casforthecup wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 14:40 Can someone clear something up for me?

Are we paying Feki? If not who is?

I have seen posters say that he is it exempt, but I think this only applies to the salary cap not to his actual wages?
We are paying Feki, he’s a contracted player at our club. Posters suggesting that insurance pays players wages when they are injured is nonsense.
Then what's the point having player insurance if it doesn't pay out ?
The insurance is for medical expenses and a payout if the player is forced to retire due to injury.
So Cas have been paying his wages for the last 2 Years then?

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Re: Feki

Post by sirocco7 » 14 Nov 2021, 21:27

westerbeast73 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 20:58
sirocco7 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 19:37
westerbeast73 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 17:58
sirocco7 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 16:51
Casforthecup wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 14:40 Can someone clear something up for me?

Are we paying Feki? If not who is?

I have seen posters say that he is it exempt, but I think this only applies to the salary cap not to his actual wages?
We are paying Feki, he’s a contracted player at our club. Posters suggesting that insurance pays players wages when they are injured is nonsense.
Then what's the point having player insurance if it doesn't pay out ?
The insurance is for medical expenses and a payout if the player is forced to retire due to injury.
So Cas have been paying his wages for the last 2 Years then?
I’m no expert but I’d say yes … the insurance will only kick in for a lump sum payout to the player if they have a career ending injury.

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Re: Feki

Post by SWISS TONY!! » 14 Nov 2021, 22:14

I heard cas dont insure players
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Re: Feki

Post by Keithy » 14 Nov 2021, 23:30

SWISS TONY!! wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 22:14 I heard cas dont insure players
Legally players have to be insured from amateurs at junior level to professionals at Super League level.
And before you ask how I know this? It's because I was an administrator for many years at several clubs.

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Re: Feki

Post by derbystiger » 15 Nov 2021, 02:22

Keithy wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 23:30
SWISS TONY!! wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 22:14 I heard cas dont insure players
Legally players have to be insured from amateurs at junior level to professionals at Super League level.
And before you ask how I know this? It's because I was an administrator for many years at several clubs.
Yes, they do have to be insured - I played both codes and had insurance from U11’s right through to when I hung the boots up due to a back injury. The question is though, what level of insurance do our players have? You’ve only gotta look at Mosoe Masoi to realise his insurance was inadequate - him and his wife said in an interview that they didn’t realise what it didn’t cover and they were struggling. Do Cas insure bare minimum just to satisfy legalities?

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Re: Feki

Post by TT Tiger » 15 Nov 2021, 08:05

Keithy wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 23:30
SWISS TONY!! wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 22:14 I heard cas dont insure players
Legally players have to be insured from amateurs at junior level to professionals at Super League level.
And before you ask how I know this? It's because I was an administrator for many years at several clubs.

But the players has to pay for there own insurance. BARLA used to insure the amateur game but that stopped in the early 2000’s.

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Re: Feki

Post by FIat Capper » 15 Nov 2021, 12:16

I know from an old work colleague who played pro that in the days of old, when players had other jobs outside of their RL career, the insurance covered the loss of earnings for the 'other' job but not the 'hobby' of playing pro RL.

If you take this one step further into full-time pro RL, I would imagine the cost of insuring all earning losses would be significantly more than the salary itself.

In the same vein, if a player is contracted to a club, the club has a responsibility to pay the employee.

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Re: Feki

Post by westyorkylad » 15 Nov 2021, 13:26

TT Tiger wrote: 15 Nov 2021, 08:05
Keithy wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 23:30
SWISS TONY!! wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 22:14 I heard cas dont insure players
Legally players have to be insured from amateurs at junior level to professionals at Super League level.
And before you ask how I know this? It's because I was an administrator for many years at several clubs.

But the players has to pay for there own insurance. BARLA used to insure the amateur game but that stopped in the early 2000’s.
Every amateur club is required to have an annual insurance policy which is renewed each year through the RFL the same as it was through BARLA. This is insurance is effectively public liabilities insurance for the club. It is not in any way personal injury insurance for the players, if a player wants this they need to get it themselves and pay for it themselves, the level of cost of the personal cover is directly linked to the level of injury and pay out you receive.

So basically if you get injured playing amateur RL and miss work etc. There is no way you can claim this back through your clubs insurance, you would need to have your own personal injury insurance to cover that.

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Re: Feki

Post by westerbeast73 » 15 Nov 2021, 17:32

Fumper27 wrote: 09 Nov 2021, 18:32 Exactly. The point his he won’t of cost the club hundreds of thousands of pounds in lost wages whilst he’s been injured.
Are you sure ?

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