I was at that game and would take him back. Doubt we would have still won that game even if he played as we was so bad. Not just Zak that did naughty stuff in that 2017 team he was just the one that got caughtstevieblunder wrote: ↑06 Jul 2021, 14:33 Anyone who wants this individual back obviously have very short memories and probably were not at the Grand Final.
Personally, I can't believe we would ever resign him.
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Tigersbarmy wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 03:27I was at that game and would take him back. Doubt we would have still won that game even if he played as we was so bad. Not just Zak that did naughty stuff in that 2017 team he was just the one that got caughtstevieblunder wrote: ↑06 Jul 2021, 14:33 Anyone who wants this individual back obviously have very short memories and probably were not at the Grand Final.
Personally, I can't believe we would ever resign him.
I think we were so bad as a result of the trauma of that week and Hardaker's suspension. Everything conspired against us. Even before with Gale's appendix before the semi, it all felt like an uphill battle against fate. After cruising for most of the season, then getting totally boxed out on the big stage by a side who we had dominated over several seasons and completely had the measure of.
I'll never be able to accept that defeat.
But with Hardaker, as much as I felt so let down by him in that, the whole game is bent, as there are so many players across clubs who are equally guilty of similar but never been caught out.
He is a quality player. Difficult decision if he is available and interested coming back.
Question over why though. Lam on way out so unless he is aware of new coach and been told he is not wanted. Or unless there has been another off field issue then I can't see why he could be available.
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I understand people saying no, But you’re really cutting your nose to spite your face.
We don’t have any centres knocking on the door from the academy, And that’s one area he has covered with no problem
However his best position is undoubtably fullback. Their aren’t many better than him when he’s fully fit.
The key issue with this for me will be wages. If it’s to be 100k + a year. I’d think we could sign a specialist for cheaper. However. Depending on these demands. You would snap him up on playing ability.
For me if the opportunity arises to sign a player of his quality - You explore it.
We don’t have any centres knocking on the door from the academy, And that’s one area he has covered with no problem
However his best position is undoubtably fullback. Their aren’t many better than him when he’s fully fit.
The key issue with this for me will be wages. If it’s to be 100k + a year. I’d think we could sign a specialist for cheaper. However. Depending on these demands. You would snap him up on playing ability.
For me if the opportunity arises to sign a player of his quality - You explore it.
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Maybe its not who we think it is thread says Hardacre we used to have Hardaker
Could be a different player.
Could be a different player.
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The reality is that if he signed everyone would get behind him like they always do. There were strong feelings against Radford just a few weeks ago. Now he’s definitely our next coach, I’m not seeing that.dettoriman wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 07:56 I understand people saying no, But you’re really cutting your nose to spite your face.
We don’t have any centres knocking on the door from the academy, And that’s one area he has covered with no problem
However his best position is undoubtably fullback. Their aren’t many better than him when he’s fully fit.
The key issue with this for me will be wages. If it’s to be 100k + a year. I’d think we could sign a specialist for cheaper. However. Depending on these demands. You would snap him up on playing ability.
For me if the opportunity arises to sign a player of his quality - You explore it.
Same with Hardaker, once he pulls the jersey on again particularly if showing recent form.
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Say Zak did sign we would be looking at the strongest back line we’ve had In years.
1 Evalds
2 Faraimo
3 Mamo
4 Hardaker
5 Feki/olpherts
1 Evalds
2 Faraimo
3 Mamo
4 Hardaker
5 Feki/olpherts
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Think the main issue we may have
Zak is a full back - And wants to play full back.
I’ve absolutely no doubt he’s on the move somewhere. And I always say if you get the chance to sign a player of his quality. You do.
Convincing him to play centre should be a fairly simple task. Safe to say we aren’t the only ones who may be interested in him though.
Zak is a full back - And wants to play full back.
I’ve absolutely no doubt he’s on the move somewhere. And I always say if you get the chance to sign a player of his quality. You do.
Convincing him to play centre should be a fairly simple task. Safe to say we aren’t the only ones who may be interested in him though.
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Brad Graham is an out and out centre. With Mamo and Sutcliffe expected, he wont be centre.dettoriman wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 07:56 I understand people saying no, But you’re really cutting your nose to spite your face.
We don’t have any centres knocking on the door from the academy, And that’s one area he has covered with no problem
However his best position is undoubtably fullback. Their aren’t many better than him when he’s fully fit.
The key issue with this for me will be wages. If it’s to be 100k + a year. I’d think we could sign a specialist for cheaper. However. Depending on these demands. You would snap him up on playing ability.
For me if the opportunity arises to sign a player of his quality - You explore it.
I agree it should be e explored but he owes us some of the transfer fee we paid for him.
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I agree with what TT and Mr Rugby have put above the thing about Radford in the short time he's been putting the squad together for the coming seasons with obviously the clubs help hes been able to get deals done
Westerman and Mamo have been two of the form players in SL this season and he got them both to sign on the dotted line for Cas
We will have a very strong squad for next season if we could get Zak in to play in the centres it would get a fair bit stronger
Westerman and Mamo have been two of the form players in SL this season and he got them both to sign on the dotted line for Cas
We will have a very strong squad for next season if we could get Zak in to play in the centres it would get a fair bit stronger
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I noticed Bevan French is staying at the Piedome next year. Probably as first choice full back. If the ZH to Cas rumour is true wouldn't that leave Wigan short of centres also with Gildart going to the NRL?
I've just got a feeling that with Wembley coming soon these type of rumours are manufactured with one purpose in mind - to deflect attention from the current squad.
I've just got a feeling that with Wembley coming soon these type of rumours are manufactured with one purpose in mind - to deflect attention from the current squad.
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Get him signed if possible
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A bit out in left field, but here goes. Now KR have confirmed Coote for next season maybe St Helens are looking to part ways with some money for a young talented fullback like Evalds leaving the door open for Cas to sign Hardaker. I know Evalds only signed an extension recently, but stranger things have happened in Rugby League
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Saints are skint.Burbo79 wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 19:27 A bit out in left field, but here goes. Now KR have confirmed Coote for next season maybe St Helens are looking to part ways with some money for a young talented fullback like Evalds leaving the door open for Cas to sign Hardaker. I know Evalds only signed an extension recently, but stranger things have happened in Rugby League
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Hardaker is full-back for me and we already have one. Stop looking backwards, Zac had his chance and blew it. Evalds is our full-back and it should stay that way.
If we need a centre let go out and sign a centre. That is not Zac Hardaker.
If we need a centre let go out and sign a centre. That is not Zac Hardaker.
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He isn’t comping back to Cas unless it’s some kind of deal for them to have Trueman.
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We already have a fullback, if we didn’t then I’d be all for taking him if he was available. Zak is a fullback who’s been playing at centre, we need an out and out centre not a makeshift one.
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Disagree, I'd swap him for Shenton in a heartbeat.derbystiger wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 23:11 We already have a fullback, if we didn’t then I’d be all for taking him if he was available. Zak is a fullback who’s been playing at centre, we need an out and out centre not a makeshift one.
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