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Alex Sutcliffe

Post by Let’s talk sense » 22 May 2021, 22:04

Been told today the club have signed Alex Sutcliffe from Leeds. Don’t know if true but we shall see.

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by Tigersbarmy » 23 May 2021, 09:46

Do we need him with Jesse in the centre ?

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by laner » 23 May 2021, 09:56

Won’t be BOD that’s leaked that out there all deaf and dumb that lot

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by KB80 » 23 May 2021, 11:20

Hope so, I'd prefer him to resigning Minikin.

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by bane73 » 23 May 2021, 12:17

KB80 wrote: 23 May 2021, 11:20 Hope so, I'd prefer him to resigning Minikin.
I'd prefer Peter Sutcliffe to minikin.
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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by Tigersbarmy » 23 May 2021, 12:27

Thank god were all on agreement about minikin

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by Sharlotiger » 23 May 2021, 13:06

Alex as looked a good prospect and his chances at Leeds are limited so hope there is some truth in it.

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by Tigersbarmy » 23 May 2021, 13:22

He’s not ooc though at Leeds and don’t think we will pay a fee for him.

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by old cas lass » 23 May 2021, 13:24

Tigersbarmy wrote: 23 May 2021, 13:22 He’s not ooc though at Leeds and don’t think we will pay a fee for him.
Depends if we get money in for trueman.
That’s if he leaves.

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by Let’s talk sense » 23 May 2021, 15:55

Tigersbarmy wrote: 23 May 2021, 13:22 He’s not ooc though at Leeds and don’t think we will pay a fee for him.
Currently coming to the end of a 4 year contract at Leeds which like all contracts will end 30.11.21. I believe he is club trained player at Leeds but he has recently surpassed his 22nd birthday. This would mean that Leeds are not entitled to any compensation and no transfer fee should he choose to leave. The player is in a better negotiating position. This applies to Trueman also. If he stays another year and then transfers the new club would not have to pay compensation or a fee. Meaning more cash could be offered to the player himself! I was told Leeds wished to retain Sutcliffe on the same wage which he refused to comply with. So there could be some mileage in a transfer to Cas.

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by Fumper27 » 23 May 2021, 16:16

Let’s talk sense wrote: 23 May 2021, 15:55
Tigersbarmy wrote: 23 May 2021, 13:22 He’s not ooc though at Leeds and don’t think we will pay a fee for him.
Currently coming to the end of a 4 year contract at Leeds which like all contracts will end 30.11.21. I believe he is club trained player at Leeds but he has recently surpassed his 22nd birthday. This would mean that Leeds are not entitled to any compensation and no transfer fee should he choose to leave. The player is in a better negotiating position. This applies to Trueman also. If he stays another year and then transfers the new club would not have to pay compensation or a fee. Meaning more cash could be offered to the player himself! I was told Leeds wished to retain Sutcliffe on the same wage which he refused to comply with. So there could be some mileage in a transfer to Cas.
Thought the age for compensation for out of contract youngster was 24?

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by bane73 » 23 May 2021, 16:22

Fumper27 wrote: 23 May 2021, 16:16
Let’s talk sense wrote: 23 May 2021, 15:55
Tigersbarmy wrote: 23 May 2021, 13:22 He’s not ooc though at Leeds and don’t think we will pay a fee for him.
Currently coming to the end of a 4 year contract at Leeds which like all contracts will end 30.11.21. I believe he is club trained player at Leeds but he has recently surpassed his 22nd birthday. This would mean that Leeds are not entitled to any compensation and no transfer fee should he choose to leave. The player is in a better negotiating position. This applies to Trueman also. If he stays another year and then transfers the new club would not have to pay compensation or a fee. Meaning more cash could be offered to the player himself! I was told Leeds wished to retain Sutcliffe on the same wage which he refused to comply with. So there could be some mileage in a transfer to Cas.
Thought the age for compensation for out of contract youngster was 24?
If they come to cas it'll be 42, they'll try n screw us any way they can.
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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by Let’s talk sense » 23 May 2021, 16:33

Fumper27 wrote: 23 May 2021, 16:16
Let’s talk sense wrote: 23 May 2021, 15:55
Tigersbarmy wrote: 23 May 2021, 13:22 He’s not ooc though at Leeds and don’t think we will pay a fee for him.
Currently coming to the end of a 4 year contract at Leeds which like all contracts will end 30.11.21. I believe he is club trained player at Leeds but he has recently surpassed his 22nd birthday. This would mean that Leeds are not entitled to any compensation and no transfer fee should he choose to leave. The player is in a better negotiating position. This applies to Trueman also. If he stays another year and then transfers the new club would not have to pay compensation or a fee. Meaning more cash could be offered to the player himself! I was told Leeds wished to retain Sutcliffe on the same wage which he refused to comply with. So there could be some mileage in a transfer to Cas.
Thought the age for compensation for out of contract youngster was 24?
RFL operational rules state - The compensation expiry date shall be 1st December immediately after the player has reached the age of 22 yrs.

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by Fumper27 » 23 May 2021, 16:37

Let’s talk sense wrote: 23 May 2021, 16:33
Fumper27 wrote: 23 May 2021, 16:16
Let’s talk sense wrote: 23 May 2021, 15:55
Tigersbarmy wrote: 23 May 2021, 13:22 He’s not ooc though at Leeds and don’t think we will pay a fee for him.
Currently coming to the end of a 4 year contract at Leeds which like all contracts will end 30.11.21. I believe he is club trained player at Leeds but he has recently surpassed his 22nd birthday. This would mean that Leeds are not entitled to any compensation and no transfer fee should he choose to leave. The player is in a better negotiating position. This applies to Trueman also. If he stays another year and then transfers the new club would not have to pay compensation or a fee. Meaning more cash could be offered to the player himself! I was told Leeds wished to retain Sutcliffe on the same wage which he refused to comply with. So there could be some mileage in a transfer to Cas.
Thought the age for compensation for out of contract youngster was 24?
RFL operational rules state - The compensation expiry date shall be 1st December immediately after the player has reached the age of 22 yrs.
Thanks for clarifying. I think it used to be 24 then

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by Let’s talk sense » 23 May 2021, 16:42

Fumper27 wrote: 23 May 2021, 16:16
Let’s talk sense wrote: 23 May 2021, 15:55
Tigersbarmy wrote: 23 May 2021, 13:22 He’s not ooc though at Leeds and don’t think we will pay a fee for him.
Currently coming to the end of a 4 year contract at Leeds which like all contracts will end 30.11.21. I believe he is club trained player at Leeds but he has recently surpassed his 22nd birthday. This would mean that Leeds are not entitled to any compensation and no transfer fee should he choose to leave. The player is in a better negotiating position. This applies to Trueman also. If he stays another year and then transfers the new club would not have to pay compensation or a fee. Meaning more cash could be offered to the player himself! I was told Leeds wished to retain Sutcliffe on the same wage which he refused to comply with. So there could be some mileage in a transfer to Cas.
Thought the age for compensation for out of contract youngster was 24?
According to Wikipedia Sutcliffe born 21.01.99 making him 22 yrs of age. Any new contract would commence on 1st December 2021. So all fits nicely.

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by The Firm » 23 May 2021, 20:35

Fumper27 wrote: 23 May 2021, 16:37
Let’s talk sense wrote: 23 May 2021, 16:33
Fumper27 wrote: 23 May 2021, 16:16
Let’s talk sense wrote: 23 May 2021, 15:55
Tigersbarmy wrote: 23 May 2021, 13:22 He’s not ooc though at Leeds and don’t think we will pay a fee for him.
Currently coming to the end of a 4 year contract at Leeds which like all contracts will end 30.11.21. I believe he is club trained player at Leeds but he has recently surpassed his 22nd birthday. This would mean that Leeds are not entitled to any compensation and no transfer fee should he choose to leave. The player is in a better negotiating position. This applies to Trueman also. If he stays another year and then transfers the new club would not have to pay compensation or a fee. Meaning more cash could be offered to the player himself! I was told Leeds wished to retain Sutcliffe on the same wage which he refused to comply with. So there could be some mileage in a transfer to Cas.
Thought the age for compensation for out of contract youngster was 24?
RFL operational rules state - The compensation expiry date shall be 1st December immediately after the player has reached the age of 22 yrs.
Thanks for clarifying. I think it used to be 24 then
Yep as i put in the Trueman thread we’ll get nothing for him if we leave it until the end of his contract. If he won’t sign a new deal then for me we cash in and invest the money in the rebuild we are going to desperately need. He can go to the highest bidder.

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by derbystiger » 23 May 2021, 21:43

The Firm wrote: 23 May 2021, 20:35
Yep as i put in the Trueman thread we’ll get nothing for him if we leave it until the end of his contract. If he won’t sign a new deal then for me we cash in and invest the money in the rebuild we are going to desperately need. He can go to the highest bidder.
I agree. He either signs or is sold - it’d be very disappointing to be in the position this time next year where he can walk for nothing.

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by Sharlotiger » 24 May 2021, 13:23

derbystiger wrote: 23 May 2021, 21:43
The Firm wrote: 23 May 2021, 20:35
Yep as i put in the Trueman thread we’ll get nothing for him if we leave it until the end of his contract. If he won’t sign a new deal then for me we cash in and invest the money in the rebuild we are going to desperately need. He can go to the highest bidder.
I agree. He either signs or is sold - it’d be very disappointing to be in the position this time next year where he can walk for nothing.
What if Truey uses his head and wants to see out his current contract to give him a bigger pay day further down the track from suitors not having a transfer fee to pay?

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by Fumper27 » 24 May 2021, 14:11

Sharlotiger wrote: 24 May 2021, 13:23
derbystiger wrote: 23 May 2021, 21:43
The Firm wrote: 23 May 2021, 20:35
Yep as i put in the Trueman thread we’ll get nothing for him if we leave it until the end of his contract. If he won’t sign a new deal then for me we cash in and invest the money in the rebuild we are going to desperately need. He can go to the highest bidder.
I agree. He either signs or is sold - it’d be very disappointing to be in the position this time next year where he can walk for nothing.
What if Truey uses his head and wants to see out his current contract to give him a bigger pay day further down the track from suitors not having a transfer fee to pay?
Difficult in a salary capped sport…

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Re: Alex Sutcliffe

Post by bane73 » 24 May 2021, 17:02

If he refuses to sign a contract this year get rid, cash in, we shouldn't loose money on him.
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