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Re: Trueman

Post by flow » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:05 pm

HuddsTigers wrote:
flow wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:In the hope that every player suddenly becomes Greg Inglis because that’s what ridiculousness Cas fans now expect.
hudds what did i advice you early dont take every thing as persanal attack on you . You only worked for the club for a while for free you talk if you own the club. we all own a bit off the club who pay in every week, tell what you can do this week find out if you can find out any thing about new ground i would ask sirroco but does not post much on here apart from odd up date.
I’m not taking it personal, I’m trying to illustrate that we have a few people who cannot find it in themselves to offer any semblance of balance or fair comments - just incessant negativity. It makes it a truly miserable place to visit.

I have never worked for the club either free or paid - HTH.
how I apologise for you did jobs for Richard wright must got u confused with somebody else. lets start a new policy for every negative comment people have to put positive like the sound off this

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Re: Trueman

Post by HuddsTigers » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:09 pm

Nope, I’ve never worked for the club. I have been part of Fans Forums and have done unpaid contributions to matchday programmes for my portfolio at uni but other than that, nothing else. Just a fan like anyone else on here.
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Re: Trueman

Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:05 pm

HuddsTigers wrote:
RonnieGibbs'forearm wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:In the hope that every player suddenly becomes Greg Inglis because that’s what ridiculousness Cas fans now expect.
But that's the opposite, equally ridiculous exaggerative statement. Almost implying people can't be critical of players. Both these extremes of opinion on here will stop debate.
I think Trueman has his question marks. Played well on Friday. But there is interesting discussion to be had.
Was talking about the criticism of Blair. My point was exaggerative but that’s how ridiculous some opinions are on here in that unless a player is scoring 2/3 tries a match, he’s poor and we should get rid.

There’s a real lack of acknowledgment of the good stuff players do each week or even just a bit of leeway for players. Egodo got slammed for Friday despite being only 20/21 years old and being kicked to by a 35 year old master who has embarrassed many a player over his career.

Look how scathing people have been of Trueman - a 19 year old kid very much learning his trade behind an inconsistent team, playing every minute of every game pretty much and without someone with real SL experience to take that pressure off him or for him just to manage his own game.

It would be nice just to have some balance without obscenely negative comments. I can accept it when we are truly bad and players really do have stinkers. But when we have just won a game and all players played a part in that, it feels just whinging for whinging sake.
Some have been scathing but not most. There is criticism of him and his performances at times. But also some praise. At points early on there was some really lavish praise from some quarters. I thought he was really good first half but I am still not convinced. What are your thoughts? What's his ceiling?
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Re: Trueman

Post by HuddsTigers » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:52 pm

His game against Wakefield showed something different from him. He wasn’t sitting on the left but controlling things on both sides in the middle, which was good to see.

I think he’s got tremendous potential. He’s never going to be a lightning quick half but he has to model himself on someone like Briers and use his awareness and kicking game to good effect. I also think he’s usually fairly reliable in his defence too which most halves aren’t renowned for.

As I said earlier, he’s a young kid but we shouldn’t expect too much too soon. He’s going to make mistakes, he’s going to hit walls during the season until he’s a seasoned pro. We can’t jump on his back in the same way we would if it was an Ellis or a Gale. He needs support and encouragement.
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Re: Trueman

Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:18 pm

HuddsTigers wrote:His game against Wakefield showed something different from him. He wasn’t sitting on the left but controlling things on both sides in the middle, which was good to see.

I think he’s got tremendous potential. He’s never going to be a lightning quick half but he has to model himself on someone like Briers and use his awareness and kicking game to good effect. I also think he’s usually fairly reliable in his defence too which most halves aren’t renowned for.

As I said earlier, he’s a young kid but we shouldn’t expect too much too soon. He’s going to make mistakes, he’s going to hit walls during the season until he’s a seasoned pro. We can’t jump on his back in the same way we would if it was an Ellis or a Gale. He needs support and encouragement.
It's not necessarily expecting too much imo. It's more the judgments of his all round game. Is he going to be too much like Gale? Do we need a half who is a running threat not just an organiser? He looked good in first half v Wakey and again v London. We definitely missed him v Leeds. So not wanting to knock him. I don't think anyone can fault his effort and the fact he has stepped up to a massive role 2 or 3 years before expected. I will be happy for him to rub my nose in it tbh. Just at minute not 100% if he will end up cutting it. Glad to be proved wrong though.
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Re: Trueman

Post by Sir cas alot » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:27 pm

I thought he showed quite a turn of pace with the line break when he set up oggy for his try. Trueman definitely has the potential to be a great half. Hes just got to learn to back himself more. He had become a little static and easy to read but has showed he is capable of great things. He has probably played too many games for a young player but due to injurys we had no other choice but to play him. The one week off seems to have refreshed him and re energised himself. His return to form and return of Holmes could turn the season arround for us. Coyf

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Re: Trueman

Post by casjunction » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:19 pm

I have praised Jake's contribution previously.
Not too many young half backs in Super League.
Especially without a recognised and regular partner.
His defence is in my opinion good in fact there are times when someone else would release him of such duties, goodness only knows how bad our season could be if he was injured for a period of time.
Yes l maybe happy clappy or the usual offences of people standing up for the team.
I wish l had his skills and hink if we can hold on to him we have a star in the making.
So l look forward to him developing and leading Cas at some point to success.
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Re: Trueman

Post by SWISS TONY!! » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:10 am

I think a big part of the problem for jake was the big contract he signed last year, a substantial increase! I still think of trueman as a kid we need to nurture but due to no fault of his own hes been thrust to the fore but with the contract hes on it dictates he should be starting every game, why would a club put so much of the salary cap on a player thats still being nurtured etc. So the expectation of the fans and media increases. Then his agent goes on to say he should be a marquee player and the only way cas keep him in future is if we offer marquee money.
I think the return of gale will make jake look a superstar again.
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Re: Trueman

Post by gateman » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:52 am

Trueman burst on the scene with a three fry score at Wigan, he as been in the team almost every game since then, the club as had to push him due to injury's, the lad as more than proved his worth for a bigger and longer contract if he had not been given that it would have been thank you and good by CAS

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Re: Trueman

Post by Flat Capper » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:42 pm

Criticism of individuals should always be measured but I believe humans decide on who they like or dislike fairly quickly and often based on nothing. This decision rarely changes over time, no matter what the individual does or does not do.

I have a set in hatred of Sam Tomkins without ever meeting him, talking to him or even bumping into him in the Tesco's built on Central Park. This wouldn't change, even in the unlikely event of him playing for Cas.

Hopefully, individual players don't pay too much attention to the comments.
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Re: Trueman

Post by gateman » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:18 am

a number of posters oh here have been having a good go at rubbishing Jake, but in his defence he as been once again selected in the GB squad, well done young man

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Re: Trueman

Post by fords » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:28 pm

fords wrote:Asking for a mate. How did trueman play last night ;)
Thought i'd resurrect this just for the benefit of Flow. Now do yourself a favour and admit you are wrong about the kid.

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Re: Trueman

Post by tigerfeat » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:12 pm

fords wrote:
fords wrote:Asking for a mate. How did trueman play last night ;)
Thought i'd resurrect this just for the benefit of Flow. Now do yourself a favour and admit you are wrong about the kid.

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Shame he's gone on holiday Umbles pie would have been on table tonight ;)
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Re: Trueman

Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:29 pm

Man of the match by a mile tonight in all aspects. Great performance from him. But Hull were dire. Didn't realise how bad they were. Last week v Saints was a very different kettle of fish. I want to see him do it against a good side in a really tough game. Next week at Wigan will do.
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Re: Trueman

Post by SuffolkTiger » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:41 pm

fords wrote:
fords wrote:Asking for a mate. How did trueman play last night ;)
Thought i'd resurrect this just for the benefit of Flow. Now do yourself a favour and admit you are wrong about the kid.

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Love your optimism but you've got to be joking.

There are none so blind as those that cannot see....

His team mates have nicknamed him world class. Everyone worth listening to in the game really rate him despite him still being a kid. They are all wrong though......

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