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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by alftupper » 06 Apr 2020, 13:19

Flat Capper wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 11:58
alftupper wrote: 05 Apr 2020, 12:30
Flat Capper wrote: 04 Apr 2020, 23:24 And a lot of those I see on social media shariing these ridiculous stories are the same ones that turned away from Labour at the last election and alor previously voted for Brexit.

Strange isn't it..?
Labour / Momentum churned out their fair share of propaganda, so why did people turn away from Labour? Nothing to do with their policies or leader?

Anyway Capper now we have a left of centre Labour leader where does this leave you with your hard left persuasion? Back to Arthur’s Socialist Labour Party possibly?
Not like you to either miss hte point or try diversionary tactics but to help you understnd my point. The people on social media that you refer to as "idoits, dangerous morans and fantasists" appear to be the same folk that walked away from Labour and the EU.
??? What evidence do you have of this.

a group of people on social media choose to believe anything they read on it and a group of people desert Labour at the last election and scatterbrain here decided there’s an obvious connection. I think it’s just you Crapper old lad.

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by Flat Capper » 06 Apr 2020, 13:49

It's all anecdotal but as this isn't a court of law I don't need any more evidence to convince myself. My eyes tell me all I need to know.
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Post by CasRus » 06 Apr 2020, 15:11

I'm with you on this one Alf.

You just can't say a lot of loony lemmings following what Social Media put out are all the ones that defected from Labour to the Tories .....that's total boll.cks !

It's as bad as putting the blame on 5G causing the Covid virus !!!!

On this 5G thing, I have seen people earlier discussing on the strength and effect of 5G that may have an impact on human health in respect of disorientating frequency power levels on body cells which each cell has to perform it's function within the human body which might be more believable - similar to when mobile phones were questioned about having an effect and we were all human guinea pigs on using ! I hope that the science has been thoroughly looked into on 5G so as not to be concerning to human health !

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Post by tigerfeat » 06 Apr 2020, 16:07

Who started this 5g stuff ,I saw Amir Khan saying yesterday the virus was a cover up while the government installed 5g I thought it was a wind up of some sort
Most of the masts there destroying don't have 5g yet so there just burning 3g and 4g masts
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Post by Flat Capper » 06 Apr 2020, 16:34

CasRus wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 15:11 I'm with you on this one Alf.

You just can't say a lot of loony lemmings following what Social Media put out are all the ones that defected from Labour to the Tories .....that's total boll.cks !

It's as bad as putting the blame on 5G causing the Covid virus !!!!

On this 5G thing, I have seen people earlier discussing on the strength and effect of 5G that may have an impact on human health in respect of disorientating frequency power levels on body cells which each cell has to perform it's function within the human body which might be more believable - similar to when mobile phones were questioned about having an effect and we were all human guinea pigs on using ! I hope that the science has been thoroughly looked into on 5G so as not to be concerning to human health !
Thankfully, most folk aren't believing the codswallop, including the 5G theory, but again, you miss the point. Many of those I see spreading these ridiculous notions were the same people who constantly posted messages about Brexit and, more specifically during the election, Jeremy Corbyn.

This doesn't mean the majority of those that voted Tory (many of which will have been the good old floating voter) and indeed, voted for Brexit did so because they supported the reasons put forward.

The group I'm referring to, which may have been enough to sway the Brexit vote in particular, couldn't disseminate fact from fiction at the best of times and were happy to believe the misinformation put about by the Tory press, like they are doing with the conspiracy theories.
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Post by CasRus » 06 Apr 2020, 17:03

Flat Capper wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 16:34
CasRus wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 15:11 I'm with you on this one Alf.

You just can't say a lot of loony lemmings following what Social Media put out are all the ones that defected from Labour to the Tories .....that's total boll.cks !

It's as bad as putting the blame on 5G causing the Covid virus !!!!

On this 5G thing, I have seen people earlier discussing on the strength and effect of 5G that may have an impact on human health in respect of disorientating frequency power levels on body cells which each cell has to perform it's function within the human body which might be more believable - similar to when mobile phones were questioned about having an effect and we were all human guinea pigs on using ! I hope that the science has been thoroughly looked into on 5G so as not to be concerning to human health !
Thankfully, most folk aren't believing the codswallop, including the 5G theory, but again, you miss the point. Many of those I see spreading these ridiculous notions were the same people who constantly posted messages about Brexit and, more specifically during the election, Jeremy Corbyn.

This doesn't mean the majority of those that voted Tory (many of which will have been the good old floating voter) and indeed, voted for Brexit did so because they supported the reasons put forward.

The group I'm referring to, which may have been enough to sway the Brexit vote in particular, couldn't disseminate fact from fiction at the best of times and were happy to believe the misinformation put about by the Tory press, like they are doing with the conspiracy theories.
Capper, the total crap that was coming out of your Leftie compatriots before the election and through last year was enough to make Cinderella look like the Wicked Witch and which was typically and massively highlighted on this topic when your leftie mates Barking (alias Dogs Vinnie) and WF10 (who have now been invisible ever since Labour got a right royal arse spanking) were in full battle gear on the run up to the election with the imagery fake news they kept posting on this forum topic which we all saw !!

So, sorry old boy, it was six of one and half a dozen of the other and never as a one way street as you seem to be making out and your now invisible leftie mates were mostly dishing out a load of fiction rather than fact !!

Anyway, what you are now seemingly saying is that all these lifelong term Labourites who switched to Tory had not got and never had the brains to disseminate fact from fiction !!! If that's the case, that explains why and no wonder then that they voted Labour all their lives if they couldn't disseminate !!! Thank god they finally and eventually woke up to smell the coffee !! It all just goes to show how you can look at it one way and then kick yourself in the nuts at the same time !!

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by Flat Capper » 06 Apr 2020, 22:37

I'm afraid you've still not understood the point but even I cannot keep trying to educate pork.

Politics aside, now is the time for BJ to step asidse for a while and conentrate his fight against this awful condition. Forget being Prime Minister and think about your kids and new, impending family.

Somethings are more important so leave Raab and co to lead the governments battle.
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This just goes to show how serious a situation we now have with Boris looking as though he has a fight for life and reflects that the country is now also in a desperate fight for life as we have always known it !! Looks like we are now getting and heading into very dark days ahead and make no mistake, the impact on all of us now looks to be heading into very worrying and unknown territory !

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By the way Capper, following on from the other "new cas ground or not" topic we seemed to have inadvertently transgressed our debate to, regarding your pro EU stance, here is a story that came out today about that organisation you still think we should be tied to - you must be having a giraffe if you think we would be best served within the EU - It's been flawed for many a year !!! :-

FRANKFURT, Germany (AP) — The virus outbreak is exposing cracks in the foundation of Europe's 21-year-old shared currency and festering animosities among its members, even as governments struggle to come up with a unified response where success or failure could mark the continent's politics for years to come.
Divisions between north and south, unhealed wounds from the 2010-2015 debt crisis and enforced budget austerity, as well as the lack of a powerful central treasury are haunting governments as they try to find a way to keep the economy afloat without blowing up national coffers.
Finance ministers from the 19 countries that use the euro will debate the issue in a teleconference Tuesday, following up on a conference two weeks ago that broke up without a strong signal of solidarity. A key point of dispute was the proposal by Italy, France, Spain and six other countries for a one-time plan to borrow together to ensure favorable terms and avoid trouble down the road for individual member countries. The so-called frugal four to the north however - Germany, Finland, Austria and the Netherlands - balked.
The idea for shared borrowing came up but was rejected during the 2010-2015 crisis over high public debt that saw Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Cyprus bailed out by the other members. The appeal of the proposal is that countries can borrow more cheaply together, as the likelihood that the money will not be repaid is low.

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Post by Flat Capper » 07 Apr 2020, 11:14

Not entirely sure what your trying to point out there other than there is a disagreement over how the Euro using countries should work together. Disagreement in the EU is not uncommon but I did just watch a BBC news report from Germany which included reference to Germany looking for a collective solution.
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Flat Capper wrote: 07 Apr 2020, 11:14 Not entirely sure what your trying to point out there other than there is a disagreement over how the Euro using countries should work together. Disagreement in the EU is not uncommon but I did just watch a BBC news report from Germany which included reference to Germany looking for a collective solution.
The EU is a Dead Parrot !

The Southern European Countries are draining the whole project and haven't got a pot to p.ss in !!

This Covid issue is about to blow the whole EU project to pieces and will end up as an almighty squabble which has been starting to rumble these past 2 weeks or were you sleeping !

Germany has announced today they are borrowing for the first time in years to the amount of 750 Billion - now that has been the cash cow of the EU for many a year for the Southern EU country bailouts - Now you tell me how and where this is all going ? Looks definitely like South to Me or am I just being imaginatively naïve ???

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Post by Flat Capper » 07 Apr 2020, 12:42

Sounds like an alternative project fear narrative.
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Post by tigerfeat » 07 Apr 2020, 13:29

tigerfeat wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 16:07 Who started this 5g stuff ,I saw Amir Khan saying yesterday the virus was a cover up while the government installed 5g I thought it was a wind up of some sort
Most of the masts there destroying don't have 5g yet so there just burning 3g and 4g masts

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Post by CasRus » 07 Apr 2020, 13:38

Flat Capper wrote: 07 Apr 2020, 12:42 Sounds like an alternative project fear narrative.
Time will tell Capper - that's was always my prediction that the EU will eventually collapse and that was well before the Virus hit which will only exacerbate and speed up this happening ! We will see who is eventually right. I would estimate this to be within 3-4 years or sooner timeframe and you can hold me to that.

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Post by CasRus » 09 Apr 2020, 13:43

Capper, Here's a statement today from the Italian PM - The EU might be teetering already !!!

Italian prime minister Giuseppe Conte has warned that the EU could fail over the response to coronavirus.
He said that the union has to work in a more co-ordinated way to fight the outbreak, or risks collapsing altogether.
With the Italian economy set to contract and debt set to inevitably spiral, Conte, speaking to the BBC, reiterated his desire for an increased social and economic response on the European level.
“It’s a big challenge to existence of Europe and the history of Europe, we’re not just writing pages in the books of economics, we’re writing pages in history books,” Conte said.
“This is a big appointment with history and we cannot miss it. Myself and other European leaders need to rise to the challenge. There’s no doubt that if our response is not strong and unified, if Europe fails to come up with a monetary and financial policy adequate for the biggest challenge since the Second World War, for sure, not only Italians, but European citizens will be deeply disappointed.

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Post by Flat Capper » 09 Apr 2020, 14:27

Inded and thanks for pointing out the obvious. After all, there is no point in the Union if it doesn't work together so it's now just a case of seeing whether they will. there have already been examples of cross-border work with medical supplies, expertese and even military co-operation so I'm sure they'll be thinking of the next steps.

Not sure why your bothered mind, we're no longer in it.
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CasRus wrote: 09 Apr 2020, 13:43 Capper, Here's a statement today from the Italian PM - The EU might be teetering already !!!

Italian prime minister Giuseppe Conte has warned that the EU could fail over the response to coronavirus.
I saw that too, I don’t know how they will manage without all our money.

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Post by Flat Capper » 12 Apr 2020, 00:34

alftupper wrote: 09 Apr 2020, 16:38
CasRus wrote: 09 Apr 2020, 13:43 Capper, Here's a statement today from the Italian PM - The EU might be teetering already !!!

Italian prime minister Giuseppe Conte has warned that the EU could fail over the response to coronavirus.
I saw that too, I don’t know how they will manage without all our money.
I see the first signs of a cordinated response has been agreed with a £500bn packaged put together.
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Flat Capper wrote: 12 Apr 2020, 00:34
alftupper wrote: 09 Apr 2020, 16:38
CasRus wrote: 09 Apr 2020, 13:43 Capper, Here's a statement today from the Italian PM - The EU might be teetering already !!!

Italian prime minister Giuseppe Conte has warned that the EU could fail over the response to coronavirus.
I saw that too, I don’t know how they will manage without all our money.
I see the first signs of a cordinated response has been agreed with a £500bn packaged put together.
Not so fast Capper ! - in principle yes, but the Eurogroup's MD for Europe has said it's way too early to celebrate the deal and predicts a flare up over undecided details when it comes to implementing the package and the ING are forecasting more arguments over debt mutualisation or other funding sources and without any agreement on debt sharing, this deal does not solve the longer term question of debt sustainability in countries such as Italy which has been most affected by the virus crisis.

The Netherlands are already kicking off big time on this deal in being both ambiguous and "relatively" undecided and it looks like a cat fight will be the order of the day when the National Leaders meet up via video conference on the 23rd April !!

To be brutally honest, economically, We are All Doomed !!

We can and will eventually get over this virus once and only when a vaccine is deployed, however it's the economic carnage and wreckage left that will be the biggest fight for survival for us all which is now destined to come on the heels of what we are all going through now !!

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by casjunction » 12 Apr 2020, 09:45

Casrus l concur with your bleak outlook on financial future.
I think that social unrest on an unprecedented scale could follow unless world leaders come up with a better system of wealth distribution.
But for now Happy Easter and stay safe.

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