Powell’s awful tatics in second half!

[CHTiger]

We had that game! We was dominating and because Powell decided to change how we play I. Second half we lost! I can’t wait for him to go! Out stayed his welcome and doesn’t know what he’s doing. Just to let you know I go every week and I don’t miss a game but I have had enough of him

[Tamworth Tiger]

So what did he change?

[Fumper27]

I go every week and I don’t miss a game

Can you please expand on how this makes your point of view any more valid than someone who goes to 1 game a season?

[Tamworth Tiger]

I go every week and I don’t miss a game

Can you please expand on how this makes your point of view any more valid than someone who goes to 1 game a season?

And what did he change?

[Fumper27]

I go every week and I don’t miss a game

Can you please expand on how this makes your point of view any more valid than someone who goes to 1 game a season?

And what did he change?

I don’t think he changed anything. The players gassing and the 50/50 calls going their way ended our chances

[The Firm]

Just to let you know I go every week and I don’t miss a game

Would have thought you’d have known something about the game by now then. Obviously not.

[CHTiger]

Just to let you know I go every week and I don’t miss a game

Would have thought you’d have known something about the game by now then. Obviously not.

After sleeping on my post I do think I was abit harsh, but I still feel the sentiments the same not just on the game but leading up to it as well. Leading up to the game he rested players (some of them not played since the semi final) and they was not match fit, which in the end was one of the reasons they lost the game. In the second half instead of keep throwing the ball about, which is the reason we beat Warrington and was beating them, the team started playing so negatively it was poor to watch. I admit there was elements of bad luck with the video ref decision but it’s hard for players to switch there mind set from defence back into attack, which you see in all sports (prime example being the England Euros final). He put all our eggs in one basket and because of that players were rested for months and now our seasons over. I know rugby league ive been playing and supporting since I was 5. I mentioned the fact I go week in week out because loads of people get slated as ‘armchair’ fans if they put truthful posts that people don’t like. Before yesterday I was pro Powell and I still am, I just think he’s got it all wrong leading up to and on the final, which a lot of people feel but don’t say anything.

[Blackbulltiger]

Just to let you know I go every week and I don’t miss a game

Would have thought you’d have known something about the game by now then. Obviously not.

After sleeping on my post I do think I was abit harsh, but I still feel the sentiments the same not just on the game but leading up to it as well. Leading up to the game he rested players (some of them not played since the semi final) and they was not match fit, which in the end was one of the reasons they lost the game. In the second half instead of keep throwing the ball about, which is the reason we beat Warrington and was beating them, the team started playing so negatively it was poor to watch. I admit there was elements of bad luck with the video ref decision but it’s hard for players to switch there mind set from defence back into attack, which you see in all sports (prime example being the England Euros final). He put all our eggs in one basket and because of that players were rested for months and now our seasons over. I know rugby league ive been playing and supporting since I was 5. I mentioned the fact I go week in week out because loads of people get slated as ‘armchair’ fans if they put truthful posts that people don’t like. Before yesterday I was pro Powell and I still am, I just think he’s got it all wrong leading up to and on the final, which a lot of people feel but don’t say anything.

Never win anything as long as Trueman is in halfs simple as that stops the game dead in attack never runs at line kicking game is awfull. Please Lee bring us new half next year off load Trueman for some cash.

[cogito ergo sum]

Saints were the ones who changed tactics. They started second half with drive after drive around the ruck, got quicker ptb’s, we tired, gave up extra sets and penalties etc.
In first half Saints tried throwing it around and looked clunky.
Good coaching.

[nottinghamtiger]

I might be in a minority, but I was really disappointed with our second half performance.
Too many basic errors, too many stupid penalties and some woeful decision-making. I don’t think we completed a set in St Helens’ 40 all half. We managed to blow repeat sets in their 40 with ridiculous unnecessary passes on the 1st tackle, giving the ball to our winger on the 2nd when there was nowhere to go but over the touchline and just not bothering to play the ball properly. Compare that the Saint’s second half performance and you can see why we didn’t score a point and they scored enough to comfortably overcome a half-time deficit.

You can complain about refereeing decisions all day, but the fact was that Saints got the the end of a good set, put in a good kick and didn’t switch off when the ball bounced. There’s also no point moaning about whether a player has grounded the ball over the line or not when there were 3 defenders who should have made the decision unnecessary by actually stopping him from getting over the line. We never looked like scoring, never mind making the referees have to make a decision.

What’s we had the best player on the pitch in Evalds, I don’t think anyone else was anywhere near the Lance Todd Trophy. I though JSL played well, but working through the team I can’t think of anyone else who had a particularly good game.

I’m not going to criticise the preparation. We named a full-strength team for the Huddersfield game that was cancelled by Huddersfield. That game might have made a massive difference, but we’ll never know. All we know is what happened at Wembley, and that was a poor second half performance.

Moving forwards, season ticket holders have been served up some dross so far in pursuit of the cup dream. It’s time to repay that with some entertaining rugby, because so far we’ve seen mostly games sacrificed and players sat in the stands rather than on the pitch.

Next season we’ve got to get some good recruitment done. I think the signs are positive for that with the new players signed so far and the deals for Evalds and McShane. And whilst I wasn’t keen on Radford as our next coach, let’s hope he can prove that winning the cup with Hull twice wasn’t a fluke and we can go back next year and be celebrating at the end, rather than walking away from another final reflecting on another loss.

[Dazzyb]

Clearly cas ranout of steam in the second half. If Powell was to blame for this you could argue he should have played that side last week against Salford, may have had the extra bit of fitness in the second half . Half these players haven’t played in ages but hindsight is easy

[nottinghamtiger]

Clearly cas ranout of steam in the second half. If Powell was to blame for this you could argue he should have played that side last week against Salford, may have had the extra bit of fitness in the second half . Half these players haven’t played in ages but hindsight is easy

We lost our full-back to a failed HIA in that game.
If that had been Evalds, he wouldn’t have been able to play at Wembley.
That would not have helped our cause.

[the changeling]

Bounce of the ball and a dodgy call for Robys try , thats all that went against us.

If Milner hadnt knocked on and GOB had got the one pointer just before half time, i think we would have gone on to victory.
But that said, if my auntie had a whatsit she would have been my uncle

No shame in losing yesterday, the lads were running on empty from the 60 minute mark if not sooner and they did us proud in my opinion

[Tamworth Tiger]

I might be in a minority, but I was really disappointed with our second half performance.
Too many basic errors, too many stupid penalties and some woeful decision-making. I don’t think we completed a set in St Helens’ 40 all half. We managed to blow repeat sets in their 40 with ridiculous unnecessary passes on the 1st tackle, giving the ball to our winger on the 2nd when there was nowhere to go but over the touchline and just not bothering to play the ball properly. Compare that the Saint’s second half performance and you can see why we didn’t score a point and they scored enough to comfortably overcome a half-time deficit.

You can complain about refereeing decisions all day, but the fact was that Saints got the the end of a good set, put in a good kick and didn’t switch off when the ball bounced. There’s also no point moaning about whether a player has grounded the ball over the line or not when there were 3 defenders who should have made the decision unnecessary by actually stopping him from getting over the line. We never looked like scoring, never mind making the referees have to make a decision.

What’s we had the best player on the pitch in Evalds, I don’t think anyone else was anywhere near the Lance Todd Trophy. I though JSL played well, but working through the team I can’t think of anyone else who had a particularly good game.

I’m not going to criticise the preparation. We named a full-strength team for the Huddersfield game that was cancelled by Huddersfield. That game might have made a massive difference, but we’ll never know. All we know is what happened at Wembley, and that was a poor second half performance.

Moving forwards, season ticket holders have been served up some dross so far in pursuit of the cup dream. It’s time to repay that with some entertaining rugby, because so far we’ve seen mostly games sacrificed and players sat in the stands rather than on the pitch.

Next season we’ve got to get some good recruitment done. I think the signs are positive for that with the new players signed so far and the deals for Evalds and McShane. And whilst I wasn’t keen on Radford as our next coach, let’s hope he can prove that winning the cup with Hull twice wasn’t a fluke and we can go back next year and be celebrating at the end, rather than walking away from another final reflecting on another loss.

Great post. Agree with most of that.
Good so see you back.

[Spanishtiger]

Yes welcome back Notts

[nottinghamtiger]

Yes welcome back Notts

Discussion seems to be (a bit more)sensible after a big game.

[Dennis Vazquez]

I might be in a minority, but I was really disappointed with our second half performance.
Too many basic errors, too many stupid penalties and some woeful decision-making. I don’t think we completed a set in St Helens’ 40 all half. We managed to blow repeat sets in their 40 with ridiculous unnecessary passes on the 1st tackle, giving the ball to our winger on the 2nd when there was nowhere to go but over the touchline and just not bothering to play the ball properly. Compare that the Saint’s second half performance and you can see why we didn’t score a point and they scored enough to comfortably overcome a half-time deficit.

You can complain about refereeing decisions all day, but the fact was that Saints got the the end of a good set, put in a good kick and didn’t switch off when the ball bounced. There’s also no point moaning about whether a player has grounded the ball over the line or not when there were 3 defenders who should have made the decision unnecessary by actually stopping him from getting over the line. We never looked like scoring, never mind making the referees have to make a decision.

What’s we had the best player on the pitch in Evalds, I don’t think anyone else was anywhere near the Lance Todd Trophy. I though JSL played well, but working through the team I can’t think of anyone else who had a particularly good game.

I’m not going to criticise the preparation. We named a full-strength team for the Huddersfield game that was cancelled by Huddersfield. That game might have made a massive difference, but we’ll never know. All we know is what happened at Wembley, and that was a poor second half performance.

Moving forwards, season ticket holders have been served up some dross so far in pursuit of the cup dream. It’s time to repay that with some entertaining rugby, because so far we’ve seen mostly games sacrificed and players sat in the stands rather than on the pitch.

Next season we’ve got to get some good recruitment done. I think the signs are positive for that with the new players signed so far and the deals for Evalds and McShane. And whilst I wasn’t keen on Radford as our next coach, let’s hope he can prove that winning the cup with Hull twice wasn’t a fluke and we can go back next year and be celebrating at the end, rather than walking away from another final reflecting on another loss.

Great post. Agree with most of that.
Good so see you back.

Mostly agree. Was a disappointing second half but we had little left in the tank beyond 50 mins. That is absolutely down to the build up over the last month in players not playing.
Saints maintained intensity and were afforded calls at just the right time. We could not get a foothold in the game because of both those factors and also as neither GOB or Trueman got in the game properly- it's not how they play. I think Trueman was not fully fit tbh, still carrying the back injury. Maybe GOB too. Such a shame.