Yes we rescue them, immediate isolation and deportation is then administered, simple !!FIat Capper wrote: ↑16 Feb 2021, 18:53 Nope, you've not answered the question about international laws and agreements that also favour us. Once we encounter them at sea we are obliged to rescue them. Changing this requires a little more than domestic laws and will not help our desire to work with the wider world. How do we change our part in these international agreements without losing the co-operation of other nations?
The claim for asylum is not limited to those in desperate need of protection, it is used by those you refer to. Those looking for this gravy train we apparently provide. Many others that land unhindered simply slip into the underworld of society, undetected. Many will still attempt this passage in spite of the risk of gunships mowing them down. They've travelled across many war torn countries to get to the channel, they've already put their lives at risk, they are not deterred by the threat of being sent back or even death.
The much aligned gravy train for immigrants is like the tax system for the wealthy. There's always those that exploit it to the detriment of the majority.
Of the few, far fewer than the claimed 95% you state, that you want to put to work in cabbage fields, many are likely to respond negatively to being Forced into labour camps and this will once again fuel hatred not reduce it. We, and they are not animals.
Lets not forget there are many women and children making the crossing and all are human beings. Let's not forget that.
Once again, how will Brexit improve the situation?
Discussing the other option I tabled in an ideal covid free UK, If these young illegals make it in and after quarantine, give them an option, immediate deportation or 5 years labour just to qualify to stay in and at least qualify and offset for qualifying to our benefit system. If they don't like staying to work their way in, tough, they get deported. Why are we, the taxpayer, who contribute have these illegals walking straight in with Hotel 4* digs, fed and clothed and then pick up benefits !!! We have ex servicemen a plenty living out on the streets with mental issues and no help and they don't even get that special offer to stay in 4* hotels and be fed and watered like these illegals are enjoying - It's totally wrong !!
I don' t know whether you have seen the documentary when a team went in to a high class hotel and knocked on room doors and found scores of illegals housed in there - Lots of people can't even afford that standard to stay in a hotel never mind these illegals - TOTALLY WRONG !!
On your point of try try again, I don't think they will ever try again after being deported as just trying to pay the gangs in France to get them in would have drained their life savings and to try yet again even if they save back up or have enough for a second try would be foolish knowing they may get the same result !!
These women as you say with children know the extreme risk they take in trying to cross, it's their choice.
From our perspective, we also know that they could be importing a serious covid mutant and also have Isis amongst them - WE, THE UK PEOPLE ARE HUMANS ALSO and we need to protect ourselves - God help us if they bring a strain in and our vaccines are in-effective !! Are you willing to gamble on destroying our patience over these months in lockdown and ultimately, destroy our country and economy ??? I wouldn't if I was in charge !!! THE RISK IS TOO ENORMOUS !! WE NEED TO GET REAL !! Even Germany reported today is now looking to completely close it's borders to Czechoslovakia, Austria and a couple more countries - that should tell you a very big story !!
Your question, "how will Brexit improve the situation" - do I really need to explain this as Brexit has already had us with a massive boost on vaccination , and if we had stayed in the EU, we would be looking to stay in Lockdown till end of next year by the look of it and ultimately having no economy or industry left !! The EU are now sh.t scared of the UK excelling while they bicker amongst themselves and are throwing a load of dirty tricks at us (haven't you noticed !) and a clamour of EU countries are ready to exit as you may have seen this week !! Brexit will allow us the space to decide what is best instead of a "feathering of nest" Brussels which EU counrtres are now waking up to as a complete detriment to themselves !! Le Penn in France will defo make Frexit happen next year (Macron is a dead man walking !), Holland, Italy, Sweden will follow and the EU will be in tatters and history !! That's my prediction !!