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Post by fords » 30 Dec 2019, 21:17

old cas lass wrote: 30 Dec 2019, 20:26 I've contacted Castleford regarding allegations of an incident involving forward Oliver Holmes and youngster Lewis Carr.

"We will not be commenting on unsubstantiated rumours posted on social media and our focus is solely on preparing for the start of the Super League season."


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Post by lurcher » 30 Dec 2019, 21:54

if what i'm hearing is true its very bad for the club and the player mentioned.
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Post by fords » 30 Dec 2019, 22:30

lurcher wrote: 30 Dec 2019, 21:54 if what i'm hearing is true its very bad for the club and the player mentioned.
Presume you have heard what's all over Twitter then.

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Post by Nobody » 30 Dec 2019, 22:36

fords wrote: 30 Dec 2019, 22:30
lurcher wrote: 30 Dec 2019, 21:54 if what i'm hearing is true its very bad for the club and the player mentioned.
Presume you have heard what's all over Twitter then.
If true, the player has to go. Simple as that. Also if true it shouldn't have got that far, it should of been stamped out and dealt with.
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Post by Akcas87 » 30 Dec 2019, 23:51

So correct me if am wrong

Greg Eden due in court in April? For doing something similar

And now Holmes is rumoured to be joining him?

If true what a reputation the clubs gonna get

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Post by braytontiger » 31 Dec 2019, 00:58

Leadership starts at the top and if it keeps happening over and over again one way or the other then questions need to be asked to those that set the standards.

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Post by The Firm » 31 Dec 2019, 01:14

This doesn’t sound good at all. If true then Holmes should be sacked on the spot but the management of the club needs to take a good long look at itself. It isn’t coincidence that this keeps happening, discipline starts at the top.

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Post by Mysterio » 31 Dec 2019, 02:07

most certainly not sacked.
discliplined heavily.
placed on the list. FGS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by tigerfeat » 31 Dec 2019, 06:55

braytontiger wrote: 31 Dec 2019, 00:58 Leadership starts at the top and if it keeps happening over and over again one way or the other then questions need to be asked to those that set the standards.
I agree for it keep happening at regular intervals is weakness at the top but at the same time ever since Powell as been at the club players have let him down massively don't know if they are or not but they should be ashamed of themselves
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Post by nottinghamtiger » 31 Dec 2019, 10:34

The Firm wrote: 31 Dec 2019, 01:14 This doesn’t sound good at all. If true then Holmes should be sacked on the spot but the management of the club needs to take a good long look at itself. It isn’t coincidence that this keeps happening, discipline starts at the top.
Ironically, I had commented on player professionalism and conduct in a post yesterday, before news of this came out.
There’s a balance here, in that the club aren’t responsible for the behaviour of the players at all times. They are (mostly) all adults who make their own choices.
However, we are lagging behind in terms of a professional culture at the club amongst the playing group. Quite a bit of the content on their social media accounts reflects badly on the club. They might be personal accounts, but in this day and age they are employees of the club who need to realise that whatever they put out there is directly associated with the club. The number of them that share far-right stuff is worrying.
Then we’ve got players driving around pointing imitation firearms out of car windows, making fools of themselves dangling from lamp-posts on a night out, multiple instances of fighting amongst themselves, with the family members of other players, their own partners and with the general public.
There are, of course, players who are completely professional and have been involved in none of these kind of issues.
Time to take a hard stand in my opinion. IF the rumours are true, use the clubs disciplinary procedure (if we have one) and take the strongest possible action against those who bring the club into disrepute. Then lay the law down to the other players that anything they do that damages the reputation of the club is likely to lead to them searching for a new club.
Time to move out of the 1990s culture - times have changed and so have the expectations of professional athletes in terms of their behaviour.

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Post by duke street 10 » 31 Dec 2019, 12:06

It has often been asked why so few of our talented youngsters make the step up into the 1st team squad. If one of the alleged rumour's turns out to be true is there a deep rooted problem with it at our club?

Personally didn't think much of the said player after the radio remarks,a lot less if one or both rumour's has any truth in it and won't cheer any of his exploits on the field if he stays....he's dirt on the soles of my shoe in my book.

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Post by Mysterio » 31 Dec 2019, 12:27

£100k on the list. Would take £80k or a swap for someone who adds more attacking value.

Sneaking feeling he’ll end up at Leeds,Wakefield or Salford.

Adequate replacement and we won’t lose Out

Use money to part pay off junior and look to down under, for a club happy to release someone from their cap a year early.

Fozzie spot if not? Or Cheyse Blair, and Bring in another centre who can cover the back 3
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Post by tigerfeat » 31 Dec 2019, 12:29

Can't stay if the rumours are true hopefully this will be the line in the sand moment at the club
Agree on bullying disgusting if a senior player is bullying a academy lad they should be showing them the way forward
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Post by Mysterio » 31 Dec 2019, 12:31

Holmes and cash for Evalds please. Perfect.

I hear BTw that the academy lad and his dad are a right pair of bananas....Just saying.
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Post by tigerfeat » 31 Dec 2019, 12:41

They may well be mate you just have to have some kind of filter inside that's stops you doing certain things we seem to have players over the last few years who don't
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Re: Scandal

Post by frainthepain » 31 Dec 2019, 12:45

Nobody in SL would pay 100k for Holmes.. He would do well to find a club in SL even if he was released.

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Post by lidds » 31 Dec 2019, 13:33

Mysterio wrote: 31 Dec 2019, 12:31 Holmes and cash for Evalds please. Perfect.

I hear BTw that the academy lad and his dad are a right pair of bananas....Just saying.

Is this a wind up lol. You mention £100k for him. Would be lucky to get £1.50. we paid just under £100k for watts!

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Post by dude » 31 Dec 2019, 13:36

lidds wrote: 31 Dec 2019, 13:33
Mysterio wrote: 31 Dec 2019, 12:31 Holmes and cash for Evalds please. Perfect.

I hear BTw that the academy lad and his dad are a right pair of bananas....Just saying.

Is this a wind up lol. You mention £100k for him. Would be lucky to get £1.50. we paid just under £100k for watts!
If its true, then just saving his wage would be good. We have more than enough 2nd rowers

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Post by nottinghamtiger » 31 Dec 2019, 13:49

We’d be lucky to get £1.00 for him.
If what has been rumoured is true, the steps should be pretty straightforward.
1. Suspension from work whilst the allegation is investigated,
2. An investigation into the incident, including interviews or written statements from those involved, including the player.,
3. If the investigation finds that the allegation is true, he should be dismissed for gross misconduct.
Time to start treating the players like every other employee.

Then use his salary to try and get Matty English.
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Re: Scandal

Post by lurcher » 31 Dec 2019, 13:53

fords wrote: 30 Dec 2019, 22:30
lurcher wrote: 30 Dec 2019, 21:54 if what i'm hearing is true its very bad for the club and the player mentioned.
Presume you have heard what's all over Twitter then.
i don't do twitter mate, i've all on keeping up with face book :D having said that i've seen no pics or video's of the incident on social media and usually there are some knocking about with every one having a camera phone nowadays.
also we only seem to have heard the carr's version of events.
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