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Post by Fumper27 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:14 pm

Tamworth Tiger wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:52 pm
No, I didn’t. Which ones were they and how did they qualify for Tonga?
I know there were a number in the team who qualified for Australia or New Zealand and some who were wanted by the Aussie and Kiwi national teams but chose to play for Tonga, but I didn’t realise they weren’t Tongan.
Mind you I’m struggling to think of anyone in the GB team who would chose GB if they were wanted for the Aussie national set up.
Always happy to admit I’m wrong . Let me know what the real facts are.
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Post by Tamworth Tiger » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:10 am

Thanks. Not sure that on its own necessarily determines Nationality, but OK
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Post by jackknife » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:00 am

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonga_n ... eague_team

Click on the player it shows you where they were born about 80% of that Tongan team are born in new zealand or Australia and quite a few have already played for Australia (fafita tupou jennings) and new zealand (taumalolo fusitua) before deciding Tonga was for them.
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Post by Tamworth Tiger » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:31 am

Thanks. That’s fair enough. What they have done is to make a choice based on their Tongan heritage e.g.Taumalalo’s parents are Tongan. He and possibly others played for Tonga some years ago but was also being courted by both NZ and Australia
I accept what you have said but it doesn’t really affect my point, that they have made a choice to commit to the country that they identify with as Tongans even if there is pressure from the ‘big two’
The Aussies that play for GB may have eligibility ( like Rangi did) but they aren’t in line to play for their home country and I need to be convinced that they have the same passion as the Tongan team
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Post by tigerfeat » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:41 am

Didn't all the tongans that were playing for N.Z at the time have a big fall out with the coach and decided they'd rarther play for Tonga
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Post by Flat Capper » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:19 pm

Rightly or wrongly, Bennett picks winners who can play as forwards. If they make ground bringing the ball back then they'll do for him. And to be fair, both Hall and McGilvery did just that but for me, your winger also needs pace and neither of these two now have it.

Hill and Graham, for all of their past exploits, are now passed internatiional standard. Graham in particular will run his blood to water for the cause but you need a little more at this level. Hill is just sh......poor!

I'd actually swap Coote for Hardaker and have Percival in the centre with Makinson outside of him with Trueman on the bench giving options for the halves when both are playing below par.
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Post by jackknife » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:49 pm

Percival n Makinson both injured so id have either Hardaker or Tomkins in before Coote. Id play Connor in centre. Dont have a problem with Hastings n Widdop in halfs Trueman is probably behind those two and Austin n Williams in Bennetts pecking order but his time will come.
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Post by mart0042 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:11 pm

Flat Capper wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:19 pm
Rightly or wrongly, Bennett picks winners who can play as forwards. If they make ground bringing the ball back then they'll do for him. And to be fair, both Hall and McGilvery did just that but for me, your winger also needs pace and neither of these two now have it.

Hill and Graham, for all of their past exploits, are now passed internatiional standard. Graham in particular will run his blood to water for the cause but you need a little more at this level. Hill is just sh......poor!

I'd actually swap Coote for Hardaker and have Percival in the centre with Makinson outside of him with Trueman on the bench giving options for the halves when both are playing below par.
If he's going to play 2 props as wingers then he should at least play a ball handling 13. But even that would be pointless as Hodgson wouldn't let them play either.

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Post by Tamworth Tiger » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:59 pm

tigerfeat wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:41 am
Didn't all the tongans that were playing for N.Z at the time have a big fall out with the coach and decided they'd rarther play for Tonga
My recollection was that the fallout was that they wanted to play for Tonga in the 2017 World Cup and the NZ hierarchy we’re unhappy about it but there’s probably some truth in both versions
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Post by lurcher » Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:08 am

you're not far off tamworth. its why it wasn't allowed to be called tonga at the weekend. they were officially tonga international invitation 13.
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Re: Great Britain Tour

Post by Fumper27 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:54 am

Jack Hughes is playing in the centre this week, with Zak Hardaker moving to the wrong. Is there any wonder why we are absolutely tosh at the international game???

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Post by lurcher » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:54 pm

Fumper27 wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:54 am
Jack Hughes is playing in the centre this week, with Zak Hardaker moving to the wrong. Is there any wonder why we are absolutely tosh at the international game???
think you meant wing but funnily enough wrong seems more apt.
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Post by mart0042 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:50 am

So many players out of form and out of position. Bennett must win this week or he's got to go.

DP, wane would be the top choices for me.

DP part time, bringing back flair and the best players in their positions. I think they might have missed the boat with him though.

Making unemployed wane the option. Don't like the style but he certainly bring back the fight we are missing.

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Post by SWISS TONY!! » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:16 am

Is this the same DP that plays a centre at half back and a half back at full back and a hooker at 13? Hahaha
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Re: Great Britain Tour

Post by tigerfeat » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:48 am

In fairness to Bennett we were one ankle tap away from winning the last world cup ...
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