Who else do we need?

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MrRugby123
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Who else do we need?

Post by MrRugby123 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:58 pm

The squad is coming on nicely now but who else do you think we need realistically so that we could be challenging with the likes of Saints and wire?

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:09 pm

MrRugby123 wrote:The squad is coming on nicely now but who else do you think we need realistically so that we could be challenging with the likes of Saints and wire?
Another top class winger. Preferably a unit like a Fonua type.
A Millo replacement or 2.
I am still not convinced we are set at half back. Will Teueman complement Gale? I worry we will lack spark and be too one dimensional. A Benny Roberts type in his far too infrequent pomp would be ideal.
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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by KB80 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:12 pm

Potentially a top class winger and Gale back.

Alternatively (and a bit controversial), another full back. I like Peanut as a player but aren't entirely sure that he suits Powells/our recent style.

We've played a best rugby with Dorn or Hardaker at full back. Both are/were extremely quick, athletic and inteligent attacking players. Imo our attack has looked stunted since Hardakers ban (Gales injuries have obviously contributed). Peanut undoudetly is probably our best current option at full back and certainly a player with a place in the team but....

A back line of:
New Full back, Blair, Peanut, Shenton, Eden would be extremely interesting (maybe even Rankin at full back could be worth a shout, half backs permitting).

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by nottinghamtiger » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:13 pm

Tricky one. When both halves are fit, there won’t be many pairings better than Gale and Trueman. But Jackson Hastings is a real talent, out of contract and might not get an offer from the NRL. But we saw what happened at Salford when they signed three out and out half backs - you can’t play 3 and rotating a half back combination isn’t great either. Can Hastings play as a creative 13?
If Minikin goes, we’ll need a winger. I just don’t think James Clare is quite up to standard as a first choice player.

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by heritage1926 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:27 pm

Realistically, we now need to be doing some scouting over here and abroad for a replacement for When Millington calls it a day. We have to replace him with someone like for like that compliments Watts. That's the biggest test Cas have in the next few years. Players like Millington are once in a blue moon. You don't often get Aussies come over and buy in to a club like he has and play the game the way he does.

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by Casmoley » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:29 pm

A class winger outside Blair.

Next two years is vital in the props. Cook, Millo and Junior maximum 2 seasons left in them. With Maher going this year (surely) we need at least one prop in next year. Then one the year after with Lewis Peachey coming in.

In 2 years it would be Watts, Clark, Peachey, Smith and 2 / 3 additional forwards.

Back row and Loose sorted for foreseeable future Fozz, Holmes, Meeks, Milner, Massey, Jesse.

Hooker McShane O'Neil

Halves Gale and Truey with Rankin or Ellis back up.

Full Back Peter And Turner.

Centre Shenny 2/3 years max, Cheyse, Robbie storey and would like another if Minikin and Egodo leave.

Wing. Eden, Carr in a few years. Clare back up. Need a class winger outside Cheyse.
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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by nottinghamtiger » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:29 pm

heritage1926 wrote:Realistically, we now need to be doing some scouting over here and abroad for a replacement for When Millington calls it a day. We have to replace him with someone like for like that compliments Watts. That's the biggest test Cas have in the next few years. Players like Millington are once in a blue moon. You don't often get Aussies come over and buy in to a club like he has and play the game the way he does.
Fifita? I’m pretty sure he’ll stay at Wakefield, but I’d love him in our pack.

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:30 pm

nottinghamtiger wrote:Tricky one. When both halves are fit, there won’t be many pairings better than Gale and Trueman. But Jackson Hastings is a real talent, out of contract and might not get an offer from the NRL. But we saw what happened at Salford when they signed three out and out half backs - you can’t play 3 and rotating a half back combination isn’t great either. Can Hastings play as a creative 13?
If Minikin goes, we’ll need a winger. I just don’t think James Clare is quite up to standard as a first choice player.
Hastings style player would be perfect. Clare has had a shaky start to season. Decent squad player but not 1st choice.
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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:33 pm

KB80 wrote:Potentially a top class winger and Gale back.

Alternatively (and a bit controversial), another full back. I like Peanut as a player but aren't entirely sure that he suits Powells/our recent style.

We've played a best rugby with Dorn or Hardaker at full back. Both are/were extremely quick, athletic and inteligent attacking players. Imo our attack has looked stunted since Hardakers ban (Gales injuries have obviously contributed). Peanut undoudetly is probably our best current option at full back and certainly a player with a place in the team but....

A back line of:
New Full back, Blair, Peanut, Shenton, Eden would be extremely interesting (maybe even Rankin at full back could be worth a shout, half backs permitting).
Hard to be critical about Matautia but I get what you mean. Will hold judgement until we get everyone back and see how combinations look with some proper time to gel.
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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by tigerfeat » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:06 pm

Casmoley wrote:A class winger outside Blair.

Next two years is vital in the props. Cook, Millo and Junior maximum 2 seasons left in them. With Maher going this year (surely) we need at least one prop in next year. Then one the year after with Lewis Peachey coming in.

In 2 years it would be Watts, Clark, Peachey, Smith and 2 / 3 additional forwards.

Back row and Loose sorted for foreseeable future Fozz, Holmes, Meeks, Milner, Massey, Jesse.

Hooker McShane O'Neil

Halves Gale and Truey with Rankin or Ellis back up.

Full Back Peter And Turner.

Centre Shenny 2/3 years max, Cheyse, Robbie storey and would like another if Minikin and Egodo leave.

Wing. Eden, Carr in a few years. Clare back up. Need a class winger outside Cheyse.
Agree we need to get the right wing partner for cheyse Blair the important signing was Blair it showed the intent of the club which id questioned
We get the right winger in and get luke gale back we don't have to do much else obviously we will be looking at another forward as well in time but I'm happy where were at now

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by nottinghamtiger » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:15 pm

tigerfeat wrote:
Casmoley wrote:A class winger outside Blair.

Next two years is vital in the props. Cook, Millo and Junior maximum 2 seasons left in them. With Maher going this year (surely) we need at least one prop in next year. Then one the year after with Lewis Peachey coming in.

In 2 years it would be Watts, Clark, Peachey, Smith and 2 / 3 additional forwards.

Back row and Loose sorted for foreseeable future Fozz, Holmes, Meeks, Milner, Massey, Jesse.

Hooker McShane O'Neil

Halves Gale and Truey with Rankin or Ellis back up.

Full Back Peter And Turner.

Centre Shenny 2/3 years max, Cheyse, Robbie storey and would like another if Minikin and Egodo leave.

Wing. Eden, Carr in a few years. Clare back up. Need a class winger outside Cheyse.
Agree we need to get the right wing partner for cheyse Blair the important signing was Blair it showed the intent of the club which id questioned
We get the right winger in and get luke gale back we don't have to do much else obviously we will be looking at another forward as well in time but I'm happy where were at now
I suspect we’ll see Shenton move over to the right. That side needs some more defensive steel and Blair is more of an attacking centre, so might go better on the left. Might not happen this year, but I can see it in 2020.
Also important to remember that we have a full complement of non-fed players now. If we sign another, we’ll have to let someone go (one of Millington, JSL, Clark, Moors, Rankin, Mata’utia and now Blair).
In terms of the right wing, if we let Rankin go I’d be looking at Sandor Earl. That’s if we can’t get Hastings or Fifita for that non-fed spot.

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by Casmoley » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:20 pm

I would suspect if we keep Rankin we get a young English forward next year, then year after Millo and Junior retire we could look at a Aussie prop/ winger / centre.

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by TiGR » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:57 am

Think Casmoley pretty much nailed it for me.

Where do we think we are money-wise now?
Back up to the cap? Gales dispensation money also gone on Blair?

I don't reckon we'll see any more new signings this term, but there's a few renewals and a few releases to be dealt with. Hope we've got a better succession plan for some of the senior players than we had for Webbo.

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by heritage1926 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:16 am

Mata'tiua
Minikin
Blair
Shenton
Eden
Trueman
Gale
Watts
McShane
Millington
Sene-Lefao
McMeekan
Milner
Massey
Moors
Cook
Clark
Foster
Holmes
Ellis
Egodo
Turner
O'Neill
Peachey
Storey
Carr

Maher - Offload
Aston - Offload
Clare - Offload
Gill - I believe wants to leave

Offload the above mentioned, use money for 1/2 signings.

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by derbystiger » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:13 pm

TiGR wrote: Where do we think we are money-wise now?
Back up to the cap? Gales dispensation money also gone on Blair?
I think we should still have Gales dispensation available if we can afford/want to use it. Roberts money should be paying for Blair I would reckon?

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