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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by sirocco7 » 22 Jan 2018, 12:12

mart0042 wrote:Would we expect phases 1 and 2 to be completed this year, starting on 3 and 4 in 2019?

Or our can everything start when phase 1 is competed?

Phase 2 and 3 cannot start until the reserved matters (detailed plans) are submitted to the council and approved. These are due to be submitted Spring/Summer.... So expect this to be done in the Autumn :) .

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Flat Capper » 22 Jan 2018, 13:11

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Yes and in to allow them access to the site. They can’t park on the site so they will have to close the M62 to park all the equipment/machinery to do the road layouts
It would be extremely unusual for Highways England to allow its slip roads to be used as a 'car park' for equipment not being used as part of a Highways England scheme.
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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by sirocco7 » 22 Jan 2018, 13:35

Flat Capper wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
Yes and in to allow them access to the site. They can’t park on the site so they will have to close the M62 to park all the equipment/machinery to do the road layouts
It would be extremely unusual for Highways England to allow its slip roads to be used as a 'car park' for equipment not being used as part of a Highways England scheme.

Well im not sure if anything is going on however google maps
Traffic update is now showing Junction 32 as a “Construction Zone” with work due to finish in December 2018.

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Post by HuddsTigers » 22 Jan 2018, 14:46

Flat Capper wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
Yes and in to allow them access to the site. They can’t park on the site so they will have to close the M62 to park all the equipment/machinery to do the road layouts
It would be extremely unusual for Highways England to allow its slip roads to be used as a 'car park' for equipment not being used as part of a Highways England scheme.
You have to remember that this isn't just the development but the whole road layout from Xscape upto the miniroundabout near the George V.

All being done at no cost to the council or Highways England (who I believe were looking to do it).
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Post by Flat Capper » 23 Jan 2018, 13:08

HuddsTigers wrote:You have to remember that this isn't just the development but the whole road layout from Xscape upto the miniroundabout near the George V.

All being done at no cost to the council or Highways England (who I believe were looking to do it).
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Post by old cas lass » 25 Jan 2018, 17:20

Just something I’ve heard today.
Thought I’d share it with you all.

The farmer of the land as yet to be paid for that land, around 400k
He as threatened apparently to plow the field and grow crops there.
Anyone heard owt, or why the land as yet to be bought by the company involved.

Let’s not get to riled up, it could be nonsence.
Though the source is good..

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Post by sirocco7 » 25 Jan 2018, 17:44

old cas lass wrote:Just something I’ve heard today.
Thought I’d share it with you all.

The farmer of the land as yet to be paid for that land, around 400k
He as threatened apparently to plow the field and grow crops there.
Anyone heard owt, or why the land as yet to be bought by the company involved.

Let’s not get to riled up, it could be nonsence.
Though the source is good..

For a start that land is worth far more than 400k....

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Post by sirocco7 » 25 Jan 2018, 17:46

old cas lass wrote:Just something I’ve heard today.
Thought I’d share it with you all.

The farmer of the land as yet to be paid for that land, around 400k
He as threatened apparently to plow the field and grow crops there.
Anyone heard owt, or why the land as yet to be bought by the company involved.

Let’s not get to riled up, it could be nonsence.
Though the source is good..

Name your source ?

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Post by Tigerwood posse » 25 Jan 2018, 17:48

sirocco7 wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Just something I’ve heard today.
Thought I’d share it with you all.

The farmer of the land as yet to be paid for that land, around 400k
He as threatened apparently to plow the field and grow crops there.
Anyone heard owt, or why the land as yet to be bought by the company involved.

Let’s not get to riled up, it could be nonsence.
Though the source is good..

Name your source ?
Farmer Giles :lol: :lol:

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Post by sirocco7 » 25 Jan 2018, 17:50

Tigerwood posse wrote:
sirocco7 wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Just something I’ve heard today.
Thought I’d share it with you all.

The farmer of the land as yet to be paid for that land, around 400k
He as threatened apparently to plow the field and grow crops there.
Anyone heard owt, or why the land as yet to be bought by the company involved.

Let’s not get to riled up, it could be nonsence.
Though the source is good..

Name your source ?
Farmer Giles :lol: :lol:

Sounds like some more cr@p rumours.

I heard that we were building the stadium out of Lego bricks, I’m not sure if it’s true but it comes from a reliable source who I’m not wiling to name .

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by old cas lass » 25 Jan 2018, 17:50

sirocco7 wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Just something I’ve heard today.
Thought I’d share it with you all.

The farmer of the land as yet to be paid for that land, around 400k
He as threatened apparently to plow the field and grow crops there.
Anyone heard owt, or why the land as yet to be bought by the company involved.

Let’s not get to riled up, it could be nonsence.
Though the source is good..

For a start that land is worth far more than 400k....
Apparently some as been sold.
So not a full field.

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Post by sirocco7 » 25 Jan 2018, 17:51

If I can buy that much land for £400000 get me in touch with farmer Giles and I’ll buy the land instead of Lateral.

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Post by Robbo » 28 Jan 2018, 13:04

Huddesfields time scales looking in trouble already.
102 weeks to 2020 you said.
As I see it
The site has to have coal removed.
According to posters in here that can’t start till spring.

Then we focus on road works that are in preparation for the site.
If the site has not yet been secured ( the deal is yet to be signed)
Why would Lateral be paying for road improvements .

You need to work backwards on this development .
The retailers need to commit.
The numbers then need to stack up especially as the developer is chucking in 10 m for a ground , as well as setting aside a large area for a country park.
Probably 25 m of costs by the time roads and cables are laid.
It’s not that bigger site to make that much money.

As we stand there are not enough retailers signed up.
Until we reach that point nothing happens as Lateral/ the developer has no return forecast.
Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
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Post by yorky » 28 Jan 2018, 13:11

a very depressing post Robbo, but i have had a feeling for some time that this is now not going to happen, it has always been too good to be true & usually that works out just that way, too good to be true?

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Post by Nu Shooze » 28 Jan 2018, 15:14

Robbo wrote:Huddesfields time scales looking in trouble already.
102 weeks to 2020 you said.
As I see it
The site has to have coal removed.
According to posters in here that can’t start till spring.

Then we focus on road works that are in preparation for the site.
If the site has not yet been secured ( the deal is yet to be signed)
Why would Lateral be paying for road improvements .

You need to work backwards on this development .
The retailers need to commit.
The numbers then need to stack up especially as the developer is chucking in 10 m for a ground , as well as setting aside a large area for a country park.
Probably 25 m of costs by the time roads and cables are laid.
It’s not that bigger site to make that much money.

As we stand there are not enough retailers signed up.
Until we reach that point nothing happens as Lateral/ the developer has no return forecast.
Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
Robbo
The lack of retailers is a real concern.

Those we do have will not wait around indefinitely and if they go we are well and truly up the brown creek.

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Post by HuddsTigers » 28 Jan 2018, 15:32

Steve Gill said in his last interview that new retailers had since signed up.

Robbo, I can’t get on the planning portal but the coal extraction is only the top layer, I believe (Sharlston Seam) and I don’t think it is the entire site, just where the retail element is.

Coal extraction, roads and the country park contouring all done this year.

Stadium build next year and retail built thereafter.
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Post by yorky » 28 Jan 2018, 15:35

HuddsTigers wrote:Steve Gill said in his last interview that new retailers had since signed up.

Robbo, I can’t get on the planning portal but the coal extraction is only the top layer, I believe (Sharlston Seam) and I don’t think it is the entire site, just where the retail element is.

Coal extraction, roads and the country park contouring all done this year.

Stadium build next year and retail built thereafter.
Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
Robbo
who the hell do we believe, this is an emotional nightmare.

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Post by tigerfeat » 28 Jan 2018, 15:40

Believe it when your stood behind posts for first game ,hope my arse dont ache till then
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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Dez » 28 Jan 2018, 15:44

One thing certain to believe is they will not build the stadium untill all the retail units are taken .

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Post by HuddsTigers » 28 Jan 2018, 15:48

yorky wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:Steve Gill said in his last interview that new retailers had since signed up.

Robbo, I can’t get on the planning portal but the coal extraction is only the top layer, I believe (Sharlston Seam) and I don’t think it is the entire site, just where the retail element is.

Coal extraction, roads and the country park contouring all done this year.

Stadium build next year and retail built thereafter.
Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
Robbo
who the hell do we believe, this is an emotional nightmare.
I’m taking my information from the planning applications. Note how Robbo says it’s come from the very top but won’t name who. And I doubt anyone from the club or Lateral are going to pour doubt on it, as it could affect the actual development.
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