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Re: Zak Hardaker

Post by heritage1926 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:55 pm

cogito ergo sum wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:28 pm
stuey wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:24 pm "Wigan Warriors' Zak Hardaker has been banned for two matches following his dismissal for a headbutt in his side's heavy defeat against Catalans Dragons. Hardaker was red-carded by referee James Child in the 78th minute of Warriors' 48-0 defeat on Saturday after making contact with Sam Tomkins' head. Joel Tomkins faces a three to five-game ban after being charged with punching in retaliation to the incident."


A wigan player gets 2 matches for a headbutt, the Catalan player faces a 3 to 5 week ban for retaliating.

You could not make it up. The RFL are bent. 2 matches for a head butt, 2 matches for a frivolous appeal.
But he was retaliating on behalf of his little bro. Zak didn’t butt Joel, the theory is that it had nothing to do with him, hence punishment.
I agree, but Zak head butting Sam, caused Sam to then head-butt Joel, a bit of a knock on effect. Still no brains between all 3 like.

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Re: Zak Hardaker

Post by cogito ergo sum » Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:07 pm

heritage1926 wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:55 pm
cogito ergo sum wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:28 pm
stuey wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:24 pm "Wigan Warriors' Zak Hardaker has been banned for two matches following his dismissal for a headbutt in his side's heavy defeat against Catalans Dragons. Hardaker was red-carded by referee James Child in the 78th minute of Warriors' 48-0 defeat on Saturday after making contact with Sam Tomkins' head. Joel Tomkins faces a three to five-game ban after being charged with punching in retaliation to the incident."


A wigan player gets 2 matches for a headbutt, the Catalan player faces a 3 to 5 week ban for retaliating.

You could not make it up. The RFL are bent. 2 matches for a head butt, 2 matches for a frivolous appeal.
But he was retaliating on behalf of his little bro. Zak didn’t butt Joel, the theory is that it had nothing to do with him, hence punishment.
I agree, but Zak head butting Sam, caused Sam to then head-butt Joel, a bit of a knock on effect. Still no brains between all 3 like.
Rugby equivalent of Newton’s cradle...

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Re: Zak Hardaker

Post by old cas lass » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:01 pm

Joel Tomkins .
4 matches.

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Re: Zak Hardaker

Post by lurcher » Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:55 pm

cogito ergo sum wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:26 pm I really shouldn’t say this, but I enjoyed the biff. Having watched the game since the late 50s, the punch up was a feature of every game. Nowadays it’s difficult to separate the hard men from the REALLY hard men because the enforcers have had their wings clipped.
i think thats because the real enforcers did most of the real enforcing when we had real scrums and no multiple sky camera's. ;)
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Re: Zak Hardaker

Post by cogito ergo sum » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:26 am

lurcher wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:55 pm
cogito ergo sum wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:26 pm I really shouldn’t say this, but I enjoyed the biff. Having watched the game since the late 50s, the punch up was a feature of every game. Nowadays it’s difficult to separate the hard men from the REALLY hard men because the enforcers have had their wings clipped.
i think thats because the real enforcers did most of the real enforcing when we had real scrums and no multiple sky camera's. ;)
....unless you were called Mal and did it anytime anywhere and damn the consequences!

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Re: Zak Hardaker

Post by lurcher » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:39 pm

cogito ergo sum wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:26 am
lurcher wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:55 pm
cogito ergo sum wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:26 pm I really shouldn’t say this, but I enjoyed the biff. Having watched the game since the late 50s, the punch up was a feature of every game. Nowadays it’s difficult to separate the hard men from the REALLY hard men because the enforcers have had their wings clipped.
i think thats because the real enforcers did most of the real enforcing when we had real scrums and no multiple sky camera's. ;)
....unless you were called Mal and did it anytime anywhere and damn the consequences!
aye, some unbelievable stories.
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Re: Zak Hardaker

Post by cogito ergo sum » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:29 pm

lurcher wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:39 pm
cogito ergo sum wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:26 am
lurcher wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:55 pm
cogito ergo sum wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:26 pm I really shouldn’t say this, but I enjoyed the biff. Having watched the game since the late 50s, the punch up was a feature of every game. Nowadays it’s difficult to separate the hard men from the REALLY hard men because the enforcers have had their wings clipped.
i think thats because the real enforcers did most of the real enforcing when we had real scrums and no multiple sky camera's. ;)
....unless you were called Mal and did it anytime anywhere and damn the consequences!
aye, some unbelievable stories.
Yes, Mal waited a year or two to get even with Hogan, which he did completely out in the open, then just walked off without waiting for the ref.

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Re: Zak Hardaker

Post by tallguyx » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:37 pm

My favourite was easily St John Ellis and Steve Molloy one Boxing Day at Headingley. They kept brawling up the tunnel. Great days.

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Re: Zak Hardaker

Post by tigerfeat » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:59 pm

I know I've said it before but Beefy England's punch where he knocks two HKR men out with one shot still makes me laugh when I think about it
And Morgies comment on the video ""He's had 20 odd fights outside Jockey this is first one he's won 😊
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Re: Zak Hardaker

Post by fast hands » Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:52 pm

tigerfeat wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:59 pm I know I've said it before but Beefy England's punch where he knocks two HKR men out with one shot still makes me laugh when I think about it
And Morgies comment on the video ""He's had 20 odd fights outside Jockey this is first one he's won 😊
If Beefy had been as good at punching has is Dad, not many would have been left standing. Remember when he decked Alan 'boom boom ' Minter. Pity he had trouble with injuries, he would have been at least British and European Champion.

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Re: Zak Hardaker

Post by Tiger53 » Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:16 am

If we are talking about enforcers then Denis Hartley was your man. Not going to pick out one single incident, there were so many. Suffice to say that not many got the better of Big Den.

In more recent years, the game v Warrington down the Lane a few years back is one of my favourities. When Gray Vianne left Ben Westwood counting the daisies and the Ryan McGoldricks flurry of punches on Paul Wood later in the game. Don’t get many like that nowadays.

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Re: Zak Hardaker

Post by cogito ergo sum » Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:52 am

Tiger53 wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:16 am If we are talking about enforcers then Denis Hartley was your man. Not going to pick out one single incident, there were so many. Suffice to say that not many got the better of Big Den.

In more recent years, the game v Warrington down the Lane a few years back is one of my favourities. When Gray Vianne left Ben Westwood counting the daisies and the Ryan McGoldricks flurry of punches on Paul Wood later in the game. Don’t get many like that nowadays.
Dennis did it as a matter of policy, he didn’t need to lose his temper. Malcolm got his retaliation in first, especially in Aus.

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Re: Zak Hardaker

Post by tigerfeat » Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:42 am

cogito ergo sum wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:29 pm
lurcher wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:39 pm
cogito ergo sum wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:26 am
lurcher wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:55 pm
cogito ergo sum wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:26 pm I really shouldn’t say this, but I enjoyed the biff. Having watched the game since the late 50s, the punch up was a feature of every game. Nowadays it’s difficult to separate the hard men from the REALLY hard men because the enforcers have had their wings clipped.
i think thats because the real enforcers did most of the real enforcing when we had real scrums and no multiple sky camera's. ;)
....unless you were called Mal and did it anytime anywhere and damn the consequences!
aye, some unbelievable stories.
Yes, Mal waited a year or two to get even with Hogan, which he did completely out in the open, then just walked off without waiting for the ref.
I remember the match down lane well when we played Widnes Mal wasn't down to be playing but late change and out he come first game back from his broken jaw I was stood not far from Hogan when we kicked off he looked terrified did bloke
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