Totonto and the Salary Cap

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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by lurcher » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:38 pm

Nobody wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:25 am
casjunction wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:27 am
Now SBW. refusing to wear Super League shirt with the main sponsors logo on it on religious grounds.
I have no truck with gambling companies but without there money the league would be a very different beast and not as an entirety pay such laish salaries.
Not sure if TWP get any money which could in his eyes be tainted but opposition through out the rest of Super League and probably the Championship rely upon it.
I am sure he and his agent etc were aware of the funding of our sport and advertising rights and so on.
Play for nowt donating all your salary to good causes as well as any image rights and then l would be a little more sympathetic.
Not Islamaphobic as l have no religion.
To be fair to the guy, he's done this through all his career. If Toronto had done their homework on him they should of known this from the start.
not quite, he converted to islam when he was 24.
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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by casjunction » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:33 pm

Talk by Super League acquiescing because of his high profile.
Surely if you respect the faith of someone their status is irrelevant.
Perhaps the sport needs to have more ethical sponsors!

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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by Nobody » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:37 pm

lurcher wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:38 pm
Nobody wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:25 am
casjunction wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:27 am
Now SBW. refusing to wear Super League shirt with the main sponsors logo on it on religious grounds.
I have no truck with gambling companies but without there money the league would be a very different beast and not as an entirety pay such laish salaries.
Not sure if TWP get any money which could in his eyes be tainted but opposition through out the rest of Super League and probably the Championship rely upon it.
I am sure he and his agent etc were aware of the funding of our sport and advertising rights and so on.
Play for nowt donating all your salary to good causes as well as any image rights and then l would be a little more sympathetic.
Not Islamaphobic as l have no religion.
To be fair to the guy, he's done this through all his career. If Toronto had done their homework on him they should of known this from the start.
not quite, he converted to islam when he was 24.
Well all his career since he converted :D

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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by braytontiger » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:41 pm

casjunction wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:33 pm
Talk by Super League acquiescing because of his high profile.
Surely if you respect the faith of someone their status is irrelevant.
Perhaps the sport needs to have more ethical sponsors!
Bet Fred were sponsors long before Sbw arrival. Maybe he should have done his homework before signing his 5 million dollar contract if it was to conflict with his religious beliefs.

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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by casjunction » Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:19 am

Now a share holder inTWP as part of his inducement to join them.
As someone had previously alluded to it's about profile, image and investor and sponsor appeal.
It maybe the future but l hope that Rugby League isn't lost in the process.

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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by tigerfeat » Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:19 am

Adam Pearson spot on in the papers regarding everything Toronto ..."Stop moaning dont pay 3 million for one player then complain youve not enough players or money its ludicrous really ludicrous"
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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by the machine » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:59 pm

tigerfeat wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:19 am
Adam Pearson spot on in the papers regarding everything Toronto ..."Stop moaning dont pay 3 million for one player then complain youve not enough players or money its ludicrous really ludicrous"
Hes not though,

Theyre complaining about cap space,he only counts for 150k on the cap

Hes embarresed himself with that rant
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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by tigerfeat » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:57 pm

Think the 3 million was in reference to a player getting that much and refusing to wear a shirt with the sponsors name on

Players was them moaning about only having 23
The overall deal was them moaning about a deal they negotiated themselves to be in SL
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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by nottinghamtiger » Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:14 pm

Firstly, there are many precedents for athletes not displaying alcohol/gambling sponsorship due to religious beliefs.
Secondly, we have a whole team who do not wear the sponsorship and nobody seems to give a flying fig.
Thirdly, Betfred have got more exposure from Williams NOT wearing their logo!

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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by lurcher » Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:48 pm

i wouldn't wear that cas shirt with tetley's on. smiths man myself.
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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by casjunction » Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:50 am

There is a difference between an athlete and a member of a team.
Is this the same lad who l saw give away his Runners up medal as he viewed it as worthless.
Great player but an ego not compatible with his beliefs unless it suits.

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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by nottinghamtiger » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:13 am

casjunction wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:50 am
There is a difference between an athlete and a member of a team.
Is this the same lad who l saw give away his Runners up medal as he viewed it as worthless.
Great player but an ego not compatible with his beliefs unless it suits.
There are loads of players who have played as a team, but not sported sponsorship for gambling firms or alcoholic drinks. Some Newcastle players declined to wear such sponsorship more than ten years ago.
It wasn’t a runners-up medal he gave away either - it was a winner’s medal,
Seems to me that everyone wants to see the worst in him, whilst we should be celebrating the fact that we have a worldwide superstar in the competition who we can actually hold up as a model professional.
If every player in our squad had the attitude of SBW, we’d be better off. Unfortunately, most of them are too busy getting sozzled, fighting and falling out with each other. Put SBW into our squad and he changes the culture of the club.

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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by Tamworth Tiger » Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:54 am

nottinghamtiger wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:13 am
casjunction wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:50 am
There is a difference between an athlete and a member of a team.
Is this the same lad who l saw give away his Runners up medal as he viewed it as worthless.
Great player but an ego not compatible with his beliefs unless it suits.
There are loads of players who have played as a team, but not sported sponsorship for gambling firms or alcoholic drinks. Some Newcastle players declined to wear such sponsorship more than ten years ago.
It wasn’t a runners-up medal he gave away either - it was a winner’s medal,
Seems to me that everyone wants to see the worst in him, whilst we should be celebrating the fact that we have a worldwide superstar in the competition who we can actually hold up as a model professional.
If every player in our squad had the attitude of SBW, we’d be better off. Unfortunately, most of them are too busy getting sozzled, fighting and falling out with each other. Put SBW into our squad and he changes the culture of the club.
I agree with your comments about Williams but I would be very surprised if what you say about a majority of our squad is true even though it is clear that it applies to some.
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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by tigerfeat » Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:05 am

nottinghamtiger wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:13 am
casjunction wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:50 am
There is a difference between an athlete and a member of a team.
Is this the same lad who l saw give away his Runners up medal as he viewed it as worthless.
Great player but an ego not compatible with his beliefs unless it suits.
There are loads of players who have played as a team, but not sported sponsorship for gambling firms or alcoholic drinks. Some Newcastle players declined to wear such sponsorship more than ten years ago.
It wasn’t a runners-up medal he gave away either - it was a winner’s medal,
Seems to me that everyone wants to see the worst in him, whilst we should be celebrating the fact that we have a worldwide superstar in the competition who we can actually hold up as a model professional.
If every player in our squad had the attitude of SBW, we’d be better off. Unfortunately, most of them are too busy getting sozzled, fighting and falling out with each other. Put SBW into our squad and he changes the culture of the club.
SBW as been involved in more than his fair share of boozy stuff so that's just tripe
One of the times he walked out of rugby league to join kick and clap I think it might have been while he was at the Bulldogs he was a character hated in the Nrl and seen always interested in money
The way he's behaved a lot of the time are polar opposite to someone with strong religious beliefs least in my eyes
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Re: Totonto and the Salary Cap

Post by HuddsTigers » Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:03 am

Unless he converted to said religious beliefs after making poor decisions in the past?

People change and clean up their act. Sometimes religion and faith can be a catalyst for that.
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