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Post by casjunction » 17 Nov 2019, 18:04

Manu Tuilagi is apparently there next target.
I assume that is their quota of marquee signing.
Will be interesting to see how they put together a cohesive squad.

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Post by Fumper27 » 17 Nov 2019, 18:59

casjunction wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 18:04 Manu Tuilagi is apparently there next target.
I assume that is their quota of marquee signing.
Will be interesting to see how they put together a cohesive squad.
Manu Tuilagi will have a £0 value in his first season and only 50% in year 2 due to not having played professional RL before. No need to use marquee on him (same as Luther Burrell at Warrington)

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Post by casjunction » 17 Nov 2019, 21:21

Okay thanks

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Post by Fumper27 » 22 Nov 2019, 19:22

Toronto have signed James Cunningham from London and Brad Singleton from Leeds

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Post by Mucky1978 » 23 Nov 2019, 10:28

There going really struggle next season
Can’t see above 10th for them.

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Post by Squaddie86 » 23 Nov 2019, 13:56

lurcher wrote: 06 Nov 2019, 23:55
alftupper wrote: 06 Nov 2019, 08:22 From running out to packed state of the art stadiums on the world stage to a dilapidated Wheldon Road in a few short months...
he's committed to 2 seasons so in 2021 he could be running out at batley sheffield and swinton if they go back down. which they could easily do.
I expect he'll have a relegation release clause.


I don't know how well any of this will work out for Toronto, but signing SBW and talks of signing other big rugby stars generates media coverage for our game - positive media coverage. That's not a bad thing, and its not my money being spent.

So good luck to them.

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Post by 43s flyer » 23 Nov 2019, 14:31

Tenth will do, survival being the number one priority.

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Post by mdean » 23 Nov 2019, 15:11

I am not sure about 10th, I think it is all going to be about the start of the season how they go permanently travelling. Appreciate they're Manchester based in reality, but the "on the road" thing, if it goes well and they get points on the board early, I think they will do OK.

I would back them for 8th, I think there are a few teams who might struggle beyond their first 17 players.

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Post by yorky » 23 Nov 2019, 16:18

i wonder how much cash David Argyle is pumping into this venture, he must be very wealthy.

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Post by Piquad1 » 24 Nov 2019, 12:11

Yes and if they're as handy as they look on paper we had better watch our step. First game and all the razmataz that will go with it
If we aren't firing on all cylinders for this match we will get turned over. Happy 2020 here we go again.

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Post by nottinghamtiger » 24 Nov 2019, 12:41

mdean wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 15:11 I am not sure about 10th, I think it is all going to be about the start of the season how they go permanently travelling. Appreciate they're Manchester based in reality, but the "on the road" thing, if it goes well and they get points on the board early, I think they will do OK.

I would back them for 8th, I think there are a few teams who might struggle beyond their first 17 players.
I think they’ll finish bottom.
Beyond Money Bill Williams and a few other decent super league players, they have little quality and even less depth.
They said they were working up to the salary cap last year and they were using one marquee spot on Leutele. Given this, they can’t have much more flexibility in the cap to sign more players now they have used up their second marquee spot (plus 175k of the cap) on SBW and signed a couple of others.
Their way forward is to perhaps tempt union players with lucrative short-term contracts that wouldn’t count on the cap, but that’s very short-term and I doubt many of the top Union players would be keen on a one-year deal.

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Post by HuddsTigers » 24 Nov 2019, 20:36

SBW may count less on the cap since he is classified as a returning player from rugby union after 7 years (?) I think it is.

Salary only counts 50% in year 1 and 75% in year 2.
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Post by nottinghamtiger » 24 Nov 2019, 21:29

HuddsTigers wrote: 24 Nov 2019, 20:36 SBW may count less on the cap since he is classified as a returning player from rugby union after 7 years (?) I think it is.

Salary only counts 50% in year 1 and 75% in year 2.
Don’t think so. As far as I know, it doesn’t apply if a player has played RL previously.
Even so, that would be 87.5k in 2020 and 131k in 2021. Still a considerable chunk of the cap.

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Post by HuddsTigers » 25 Nov 2019, 00:44

There are two rules. One is for a player never playing RL.

The other is for a player that is a returning player. I think it is 7 years - it is in the rules. It is whether they can use that and marquee together I'd question if is in the spirit of the cap.

It is a big chunk but probably not too dissimilar to what Sims was on. Fairly cheap amount on the cap for a player of his calibre.
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Post by Sharlotiger » 25 Nov 2019, 14:50

Pretty sure Wire got some dispensation when Charnley came back to league and he had only been away from the game for a couple of years.

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Post by lurcher » 26 Nov 2019, 13:39

nottinghamtiger wrote: 24 Nov 2019, 12:41
mdean wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 15:11 I am not sure about 10th, I think it is all going to be about the start of the season how they go permanently travelling. Appreciate they're Manchester based in reality, but the "on the road" thing, if it goes well and they get points on the board early, I think they will do OK.

I would back them for 8th, I think there are a few teams who might struggle beyond their first 17 players.
I think they’ll finish bottom.
Beyond Money Bill Williams and a few other decent super league players, they have little quality and even less depth.
They said they were working up to the salary cap last year and they were using one marquee spot on Leutele. Given this, they can’t have much more flexibility in the cap to sign more players now they have used up their second marquee spot (plus 175k of the cap) on SBW and signed a couple of others.
Their way forward is to perhaps tempt union players with lucrative short-term contracts that wouldn’t count on the cap, but that’s very short-term and I doubt many of the top Union players would be keen on a one-year deal.
think they had 2 marquee players last season, leutele and lussick.
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