Wakey to get new ground maybe

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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by WallTiger » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:15 pm

He’s quite angry in that is Mr Box and clearly doesn’t get on with Councillor Ahmed. He conveniently doesn’t mention the whole saga surrounding the Newcold application being allowed outside of the original application. Also doesn’t the planning permission expire at the end of December? I still think an agreement will be reached and it won’t get to court.

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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by Tigerade » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:04 pm

There is a couple of bits in there that I certainly wasn't aware of. Firstly, the club wanting Hussain (the owner) to pay the club 400K so they can play at Dewsbury. Secondly, the council arranging with Hussain for the club not to pay rent for 2018 to please the RFL. The more I hear the more I realize the club are wanting their cake and eat it. They are wanting Belle Vue on a plate for nothing.

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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by Tigerade » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:10 pm

Why on earth would the council get a business plan together to build a £12M community stadium without anchor tenants? Are they hoping to build a white elephant then get anchor tenants after the event? Seems a bit hung Ho to me.
They aren't. They are looking at 2 plans. One with WT to accommodate 10,000 costing approx 15M. The second without WT and that one will cost much, much less. The second one might consist of a couple of training pitches, an all weather pitch and a gym.

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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by JIN JER » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:38 pm

Tigerade wrote:There is a couple of bits in there that I certainly wasn't aware of. Firstly, the club wanting Hussain (the owner) to pay the club 400K so they can play at Dewsbury. Secondly, the council arranging with Hussain for the club not to pay rent for 2018 to please the RFL. The more I hear the more I realize the club are wanting their cake and eat it. They are wanting Belle Vue on a plate for nothing.
And your club are paying......£1. Cake and eat it?

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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by Tiger53 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:07 am

JIN JER wrote:
Tigerade wrote:There is a couple of bits in there that I certainly wasn't aware of. Firstly, the club wanting Hussain (the owner) to pay the club 400K so they can play at Dewsbury. Secondly, the council arranging with Hussain for the club not to pay rent for 2018 to please the RFL. The more I hear the more I realize the club are wanting their cake and eat it. They are wanting Belle Vue on a plate for nothing.
And your club are paying......£1. Cake and eat it?
Not at the expense of Council Tax payers. There is the massive difference.

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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by JIN JER » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:16 am

Tigerade stated "the club are wanting their cake and eating it" I responded to that, you're laying out a quid, cake and eat it? No mention of council tax payers shelling out.
You don't really believe WMDC are gonna shell out £15M in today's economic climate do you? I certainly don't.

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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by Spanishtiger » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:23 am

Jinj, you're obviously a good guy and have your team's interests at heart, but try to remember that you're posting on a CAS forum therefore your sour grapes about our hitherto unbuilt stadium are unlikely to engender much sympathy here.

For the record, Wakefield Trinity's average crowd for last season was about 5,200, take off the cas , hull and leeds games and the average attendance was about 4,000. In your best ever SL season results wise. So Dewsbury would probably do.

I've posted on here before about the Wakey pipe dream, but would never dream of posting on the Wakefield forum simply because it's none of my business.

Please bear in mind that it's not our fault that your S106 has been full of holes since day one.

Furthermore, as Mr Gill has pointed out, Cas own the freehold to
our "old lady" so are not beholden to a speculative landlord, the council or indeed the RFL (in order to comply with the latest SL criteria we need to install approximately 500 extra seats).

As I've said before on our forum in a discussion with Rajpoot, I hope that both teams get their new grounds however far away it may seem at this moment.

PS is the Raj Poot still open ????

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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by JIN JER » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:28 am

Spanishtiger, I wouldn't dream of coming on here and trolling, I just mentioned the £1 that is all, hardly trolling. I don't expect much if any sympathy.
As for the Raj, I believe the restaurant is indeed still open but has changed it's name.
Ps, it's now called Rice and spice.

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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by Tiger53 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:39 am

JIN JER wrote:Tigerade stated "the club are wanting their cake and eating it" I responded to that, you're laying out a quid, cake and eat it? No mention of council tax payers shelling out.
You don't really believe WMDC are gonna shell out £15M in today's economic climate do you? I certainly don't.
Unfortunatel, that is what Trinity are asking WMDC to do, at Council Tax payers expense. Ours has no impact on the Council, £1 or not.

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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by tigerfeat » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:46 pm

the wakefield club are out of there depth taking on the council things will only get worse for them too you dont have to be einstien to work out a scenario were some kind of community facility is built and the rugby club is not part of it they will then be shown by the council as the ones entirely to blame for the situation they will find themselves in
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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by steadygetyerboots-on » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:21 pm

Having watched the link Hudds posted above, what saddens me the most is the calibre of individuals involved in local politics.
I thought Box, whether he is telling the truth or not, came across as petty & unprofessional & will, in my opinion, be ripped to shreds in a Courtroom environment - Any barrister will find it far too easy to lead him down a cup-de-sac. He kept tripping himself up without anyone actually applying any pressure & actually asking him anything!

Now I'm not saying he's done anything untoward as we don't have anywhere near enough information in the public domain to make any kind of reliable assessment, but I usually find, in my line of work, that the truth is always somewhere in the middle & I've not seen nor heard anything yet that makes me think otherwise about this whole sorry affair.
Both sides are telling people what they want to hear whilst leaving out pertinent information or deliberately misleading them. The only certain thing is that it will get very messy as the information in the public domain feels like it's now personal between Box & Carter.
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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by Tigerade » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:41 pm

And your club are paying......£1. Cake and eat it?
come on Mick - I know you are not thick and you don't need educating on the subject. You do know that our agreement (with the Labour led council) is a multilateral agreement. Wakey's agreement is a unilateral agreed by the club and the tory led sec-of-state Eric Pickles government. WMDC agreed to change the S106 to a multilateral but your club rejected it.

Two entirely different schemes that cannot be compared.

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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by JIN JER » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:20 pm

Tigerade wrote:
And your club are paying......£1. Cake and eat it?
come on Mick - I know you are not thick and you don't need educating on the subject. You do know that our agreement (with the Labour led council) is a multilateral agreement. Wakey's agreement is a unilateral agreed by the club and the tory led sec-of-state Eric Pickles government. WMDC agreed to change the S106 to a multilateral but your club rejected it.

Two entirely different schemes that cannot be compared.
Just thought I'd throw it in Tigerade.
Trolling apparently. :)

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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by Spanishtiger » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:18 pm

Please don't think that I'm accusing you of being a troll JINJ, your posts on here and on the WT forum show that you're an intelligent individual who has the interests of the game in general close to your heart. I just thought that your £1 comment was below your own high standards ....

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Re: Wakey to get new ground maybe

Post by JIN JER » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:55 pm

Hence the :) Spanishtiger.

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