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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by Fumper27 » 13 Apr 2021, 11:47

tykeneil wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 11:35 I get the impression that DP wants his wingers to return the ball strongly and get good metres (as shown in the stats). That is why he prefers Olpherts/Turner at present and that is what Feki (?) would bring over Eden in his opinion.
I remember Youngquest being excellent at that

Cannot give a definitive opinion on that but there is no doubt he is the fastest and best finisher
Carney was awesome at bringing the ball out of defence....

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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by old cas lass » 13 Apr 2021, 11:52

nottinghamtiger wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 11:18
old cas lass wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 10:05
covid tiger wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 09:57 Crown Court is required as a jury is needed in the case that's all as Eden has pleaded not guilty Doesn't make it any more serious or mean he is guilty.
What date is the trial.
Listed for 31st August 2021, with an anticipated duration of 3 days.
Flipping heck.
That’s nearly 4 months away.
Surely that can’t be the reason he’s left out on the team.
He’s been in the 21 but not in the 17. I wonder if he as an injury.

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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by nottinghamtiger » 13 Apr 2021, 12:02

Fumper27 wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 11:47
tykeneil wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 11:35 I get the impression that DP wants his wingers to return the ball strongly and get good metres (as shown in the stats). That is why he prefers Olpherts/Turner at present and that is what Feki (?) would bring over Eden in his opinion.
I remember Youngquest being excellent at that

Cannot give a definitive opinion on that but there is no doubt he is the fastest and best finisher
Carney was awesome at bringing the ball out of defence....
Only if he didn't drop the ball first.

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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by FIat Capper » 13 Apr 2021, 12:03

Scoopage wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 09:54
Tigersbarmy wrote: 12 Apr 2021, 22:26 Great post mate . Agree 100% . Look at some the players fergie had at scum that was bad people off the field but he didn’t care because he knew what why could do on the pitch !
Wrong again.fergie bought players who were family men or intended to be very shortly.players with partners and children.even Beckham,nevilles,scholes,butt got married early 20s, was only giggs who was a bit of a play boy and he still had a long term partner at the time(fergie left him out on the occasions he misbehaved).name me a player(s) he still played who misbehaved outside of football.and don’t say cantona because his misdemeanours were on the pitch.you need to stop making things up mate to support your argument.by the way I’m a Liverpool fan so it pains me to make a argument for fergie.
Lee Chapman may disagree with your view on EC..?

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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by Scoopage » 13 Apr 2021, 13:54

FIat Capper wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 12:03
Scoopage wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 09:54
Tigersbarmy wrote: 12 Apr 2021, 22:26 Great post mate . Agree 100% . Look at some the players fergie had at scum that was bad people off the field but he didn’t care because he knew what why could do on the pitch !
Wrong again.fergie bought players who were family men or intended to be very shortly.players with partners and children.even Beckham,nevilles,scholes,butt got married early 20s, was only giggs who was a bit of a play boy and he still had a long term partner at the time(fergie left him out on the occasions he misbehaved).name me a player(s) he still played who misbehaved outside of football.and don’t say cantona because his misdemeanours were on the pitch.you need to stop making things up mate to support your argument.by the way I’m a Liverpool fan so it pains me to make a argument for fergie.
Lee Chapman may disagree with your view on EC..?
Thats while he was at leeds

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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by FIat Capper » 13 Apr 2021, 14:03

Yes, and from where Fergie chose to buy him from in spite of what may or may not have happened so Fergie was happy with players' deeds on the pitch, not off them.

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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by Scoopage » 13 Apr 2021, 14:24

FIat Capper wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 14:03 Yes, and from where Fergie chose to buy him from in spite of what may or may not have happened so Fergie was happy with players' deeds on the pitch, not off them.
Cantona was married and settled down.fergie obviously thought he could man manage him so signed him.don’t recall any off field misdemeanours in his time at man u

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Post by Mysterio » 13 Apr 2021, 19:15

Scoopage wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 14:24
FIat Capper wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 14:03 Yes, and from where Fergie chose to buy him from in spite of what may or may not have happened so Fergie was happy with players' deeds on the pitch, not off them.
Cantona was married and settled down.fergie obviously thought he could man manage him so signed him.don’t recall any off field misdemeanours in his time at man u
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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by Scoopage » 13 Apr 2021, 19:20

Mysterio wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 19:15
Scoopage wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 14:24
FIat Capper wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 14:03 Yes, and from where Fergie chose to buy him from in spite of what may or may not have happened so Fergie was happy with players' deeds on the pitch, not off them.
Cantona was married and settled down.fergie obviously thought he could man manage him so signed him.don’t recall any off field misdemeanours in his time at man u
Kung Fu was performed off the pitch 😂
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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by HuddsTigers » 13 Apr 2021, 20:15

Eden is a left winger. He's never going to play right wing.

Turner is doing phenomenal on the left wing and is both scoring tries and doing his job defensively. There isn't a place for Eden because of that. He has to earn his way back in.
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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by tigerfeat » 14 Apr 2021, 07:35

HuddsTigers wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 20:15 Eden is a left winger. He's never going to play right wing.

Turner is doing phenomenal on the left wing and is both scoring tries and doing his job defensively. There isn't a place for Eden because of that. He has to earn his way back in.
Why can't he play on right wing
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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by ERG2012 » 14 Apr 2021, 09:26

HuddsTigers wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 20:15 Eden is a left winger. He's never going to play right wing.

Turner is doing phenomenal on the left wing and is both scoring tries and doing his job defensively. There isn't a place for Eden because of that. He has to earn his way back in.
How does he earn his way back in unless Turner gets a knock or loses form?

And swapping wings makes very little difference. Its only a preference to play a certain wing or a relationship between the centre and respective wing

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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by Fumper27 » 14 Apr 2021, 09:43

ERG2012 wrote: 14 Apr 2021, 09:26
HuddsTigers wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 20:15 Eden is a left winger. He's never going to play right wing.

Turner is doing phenomenal on the left wing and is both scoring tries and doing his job defensively. There isn't a place for Eden because of that. He has to earn his way back in.
And swapping wings makes very little difference. Its only a preference to play a certain wing or a relationship between the centre and respective wing
I think you have answered your own questions there. In my opinion it makes a massive difference. Having being a centre myself, albeit at a lower level, you do the things you say, building trust and relationships with your winger. I used to always tell my winger not to get drawn to the ball as he had to have as much faith in me making the tackle as I did in my own defence and, if they did bite in, the opposite winger had a walk in.

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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by SWISS TONY!! » 14 Apr 2021, 10:59

Think it definitely makes more of a difference for a centre than it does winger. They have a preferred way of passing the ball, right handed centres play left center as it makes it easier to pass to winger.
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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by Fumper27 » 14 Apr 2021, 11:50

SWISS TONY!! wrote: 14 Apr 2021, 10:59
But I was just a fat bloke in middle lol
So you were a referee Swiss Tony??

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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by FIat Capper » 14 Apr 2021, 12:02

As another fat lad in t'middle I've never really got to the bottom of wingers, their preferred side to pass (if any) or their preferred way to step (if any).

Very few wingers seem keen to take a man on the outside these days as the touch line can be used as an extra defender so do wingers have a preference for stepping of one foot or t'other.

I've also seen some wingers who are terrible at passing back to the inside of them so does this make a diffreence in the side they play?

Whatever the complexities are, there is still no substitute for speed and if I had it, I'd be happy to run down either wing, avoiding having to run around Ben Thaler in the middle.

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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by JIN JER » 14 Apr 2021, 14:29

A right winger controls the ball from a pass with his right hand then clutches the ball wit both, plus the right winger when needed to pass the ball inside will control the ball with his right arm and propel it mainly with force of his right hand. Ditto the left winger.

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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by nottinghamtiger » 14 Apr 2021, 14:34

tigerfeat wrote: 14 Apr 2021, 07:35
HuddsTigers wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 20:15 Eden is a left winger. He's never going to play right wing.

Turner is doing phenomenal on the left wing and is both scoring tries and doing his job defensively. There isn't a place for Eden because of that. He has to earn his way back in.
Why can't he play on right wing
In fairness I've been pretty impressed with Olpherts. He makes really good metres on kick returns and always seems to find his front so he can play the ball quickly.
He's playing much better than he was towards the end of last season, in my opinion.

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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by SWISS TONY!! » 14 Apr 2021, 19:20

Fumper27 wrote: 14 Apr 2021, 11:50
SWISS TONY!! wrote: 14 Apr 2021, 10:59
But I was just a fat bloke in middle lol
So you were a referee Swiss Tony??
Tried to be from a players point of view but no a wanna be 13 who was only a fat prop with delusions of grandeur haha
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Re: Greg Eden.

Post by takethetwo » 14 Apr 2021, 20:27

FIat Capper wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 12:03
Scoopage wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 09:54
Tigersbarmy wrote: 12 Apr 2021, 22:26 Great post mate . Agree 100% . Look at some the players fergie had at scum that was bad people off the field but he didn’t care because he knew what why could do on the pitch !
Wrong again.fergie bought players who were family men or intended to be very shortly.players with partners and children.even Beckham,nevilles,scholes,butt got married early 20s, was only giggs who was a bit of a play boy and he still had a long term partner at the time(fergie left him out on the occasions he misbehaved).name me a player(s) he still played who misbehaved outside of football.and don’t say cantona because his misdemeanours were on the pitch.you need to stop making things up mate to support your argument.by the way I’m a Liverpool fan so it pains me to make a argument for fergie.
Lee Chapman may disagree with your view on EC..?
Pogba? I'm also a liverpool fan lol. Not the worst crime in the world but partying before a game and setting fireworks off in your apartment are abit silly aha.

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