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Post by Bolton-tiger » 07 Oct 2018, 14:22

braytontiger wrote:Anybody else see peacocks view on us on the BBC re-run. He sees us a team which Powell brings the best out of them which is great going through the season and will always see us well placed in the table but we will always fall short when it comes to the play off knock out games,I know a lot of you will brush off his comment because of his background but the more I've thought about the more I tend to agree.

We are 1/2 quality players away from been where we want to be and IMO I'd be happy if we could bring in a centre and a winger one with genuine pace the other with size and power. Do I think we will get either,time will tell. Krisnan inu is a player I'd be keeping tabs on a bit of a nomad but a player that as natural ability who is exactly the player DP could bring the best out of,could be the perfect fit for both player and club.
Krisnan inu would be a really good fit for us.hes big hes strong and still only 28/29 i belive deffinatly worth having a look at since widnes have gone down hel be a free agent

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Post by Mysterio » 07 Oct 2018, 14:25

If we spend up to the cap, and we are making a profit, and the stadium looks on target, is it time to consider a marquee signing who could have maybe broken up the game for us ?

A middle man or a centre?
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Post by Scoopage » 07 Oct 2018, 14:34

I actually think DP sees foster as a more than capable centre and I agree with him.id have no qualms foster taking Webster’s place next season

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Post by Mysterio » 07 Oct 2018, 14:38

I see no problem there and trust in Daryl’s judgement all day long.
The only thing is I would hope he is honest enough with himself in deciding whether foster could do a job or whether a Tupou/ Percival like Quality performer is what we must aim to.
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Post by tigerfeat » 07 Oct 2018, 14:40

Mysterio wrote:If we spend up to the cap, and we are making a profit, and the stadium looks on target, is it time to consider a marquee signing who could have maybe broken up the game for us ?

A middle man or a centre?
Yeah we need a man like gallen was few years ago been there done it seen it all steady ship in big games
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Post by HuddsTigers » 07 Oct 2018, 15:19

Mysterio wrote:If we spend up to the cap, and we are making a profit, and the stadium looks on target, is it time to consider a marquee signing who could have maybe broken up the game for us ?

A middle man or a centre?
You still need £120,000 spare on the cap for a marquee signing. They aren’t totally exempt.
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Post by tigerfeat » 07 Oct 2018, 18:23

Hope we secure trueman on a long deal sometime next season all ready other clubs will be casting a envious eye on him
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Post by HuddsTigers » 07 Oct 2018, 18:35

He’s contracted until the end of 2020. Anything could happen between now and then and for me next season is pivotal in terms of recruitment. That’s the priority for me.
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Post by tigerfeat » 07 Oct 2018, 18:45

Wouldn't you offer him a longer contract now then if you could ?
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Post by classysupercas3 » 07 Oct 2018, 19:10

Like been said all players contracted and we near salary cap.we need a minimum good centre signed probally 2.we are extremely weak in that position. For me try to do a deal with some of our underperforming players if it's the only option but bad management once again from the club if they don't or can't sign a centre.

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Post by HuddsTigers » 07 Oct 2018, 19:51

tigerfeat wrote:Wouldn't you offer him a longer contract now then if you could ?
I’d look at where we are with recruitment next season and what we do with those off contract and replacing them before renewals.

We can offer Trueman a new deal starting 2021 on increased pay then.
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Post by Mysterio » 07 Oct 2018, 20:08

HuddsTigers wrote:
Mysterio wrote:If we spend up to the cap, and we are making a profit, and the stadium looks on target, is it time to consider a marquee signing who could have maybe broken up the game for us ?

A middle man or a centre?
You still need £120,000 spare on the cap for a marquee signing. They aren’t totally exempt.
I dare say we’d relatively easily achieve it, Webster alone must be on more than half of that amount?
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Post by HuddsTigers » 07 Oct 2018, 23:16

Mysterio wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
Mysterio wrote:If we spend up to the cap, and we are making a profit, and the stadium looks on target, is it time to consider a marquee signing who could have maybe broken up the game for us ?

A middle man or a centre?
You still need £120,000 spare on the cap for a marquee signing. They aren’t totally exempt.
I dare say we’d relatively easily achieve it, Webster alone must be on more than half of that amount?
That salary will already be accounted for with the increased contracts handed out this season for the likes of Milner. You can’t focus on just those going out but also who has had their contract renewed this season that will start in November.
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Post by Tigerman2014 » 07 Oct 2018, 23:19

We must have some space for a quality back, why would we leave a quota space free and let JY go ?!?

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Post by tigerfeat » 08 Oct 2018, 07:31

I had Milner in my dream team but to drop balls cold in big games takes the life out of you
A player id like if it was fantasy rugby is evalds think he would go to a different level again too if he came to cas
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Post by HuddsTigers » 08 Oct 2018, 08:20

Tigerman2014 wrote:We must have some space for a quality back, why would we leave a quota space free and let JY go ?!?
The same reason we do every season. Buffer in case we get injuries and need to recruit someone extra mid-season. You can’t do this before the season starts as it may be in a position you don’t expect.
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Post by fords » 08 Oct 2018, 08:41

Tigerman2014 wrote:We must have some space for a quality back, why would we leave a quota space free and let JY go ?!?
You would hope so otherwise there are some people on money they don't deserve to be on

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Post by Mysterio » 08 Oct 2018, 10:45

HuddsTigers wrote:
Mysterio wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
Mysterio wrote:If we spend up to the cap, and we are making a profit, and the stadium looks on target, is it time to consider a marquee signing who could have maybe broken up the game for us ?

A middle man or a centre?
You still need £120,000 spare on the cap for a marquee signing. They aren’t totally exempt.
I dare say we’d relatively easily achieve it, Webster alone must be on more than half of that amount?
That salary will already be accounted for with the increased contracts handed out this season for the likes of Milner. You can’t focus on just those going out but also who has had their contract renewed this season that will start in November.
A few posts ago you mention recruitment being paramount to you, but in raising these points you’re effecfively waving the white flag, for even ‘good’ recruitment 2019 at least anyway.

Unless you know something I don’t.

Or, unless you’re disagreeing for disagreeing’s sake :roll: :D
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Re: New players for next season?

Post by laner » 08 Oct 2018, 12:44

How about exchanging Springer for the Toulouse centre Centrone

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Post by HuddsTigers » 08 Oct 2018, 18:05

Mysterio wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
Mysterio wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
Mysterio wrote:If we spend up to the cap, and we are making a profit, and the stadium looks on target, is it time to consider a marquee signing who could have maybe broken up the game for us ?

A middle man or a centre?
You still need £120,000 spare on the cap for a marquee signing. They aren’t totally exempt.
I dare say we’d relatively easily achieve it, Webster alone must be on more than half of that amount?
That salary will already be accounted for with the increased contracts handed out this season for the likes of Milner. You can’t focus on just those going out but also who has had their contract renewed this season that will start in November.
A few posts ago you mention recruitment being paramount to you, but in raising these points you’re effecfively waving the white flag, for even ‘good’ recruitment 2019 at least anyway.

Unless you know something I don’t.

Or, unless you’re disagreeing for disagreeing’s sake :roll: :D

We are upto the cap for next season barring some money spare for a squad player - this was said about a month back by another poster on here. We have no room to manoeuvre other than that. Planning for the next season started as soon as Jan/Feb 2018, so we will already have known where we need to make savings and/or what money we have to play around.

As such, the money from releasing players such as Webbo will already have been swallowed up to accommodate those new contracts and deals for players we've signed up such as Milner, whose values will have increased as a result of demand in their services and also our successful season.

Therefore, we will not have any more money spare for additional signings unless we've made any earlier in the season that we're waiting to announce, in which case they will already have been taken out the pot of money we knew we had left or spare.

We're going to have to offload players or renegotiate some contracts if we want to make further signings for 2019 outside of any already made.

In terms of my comment regarding recruitment, I was referring to recruitment for 2020, not next season. We have a few players with big money coming off contract at the end of next season, as well as a few squad players and then a few fringe players. This is the list taken from the other thread for 2019:

Shenton
Roberts
Minikin
Cook
Springer
Clark
Massey
Maher
Gill
Egodo
Aston

I'd imagine that these lot account for around £500k of our spend. I think we'll offer deals to Shenton (reduced terms), Massey, Clark and Cook, and possibly Minikin. Clark and Minikin may demand higher terms.

That leaves questions marks over Roberts, Springer, Maher, Gill, Egodo, Aston, which is probably around £220k plus whatever is saved from the renewals if anything. I'd probably be looking at another first choice prop and outside back from that pot for 2020, if we don't re-sign all the above. Can't see us going for a half to replace Roberts when we have Trueman and Ellis.

Anything remaining from that pot can be spare for the season, new recruits or go on renewals such as Trueman from the OOC end 2020 list.
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