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For a start, do you know what their revenue make up is in relation to ours? Unless you do and know the income of each club then you don't know how things compare.
Even ignoring that though you're assuming Huddersfield can afford to pay Carney say £100k a year and we can not. This simply isn't true, we can and do pay players that kind of money however clearly aren't interested in Carney otherwise would have made a move. Sure if we can only spend say 70% of the cap then it limits how many players we can have and still have £100k free BUT to say we can't match Huddersfield's ability to pay that kind of money simply isn't true.
Even ignoring that though you're assuming Huddersfield can afford to pay Carney say £100k a year and we can not. This simply isn't true, we can and do pay players that kind of money however clearly aren't interested in Carney otherwise would have made a move. Sure if we can only spend say 70% of the cap then it limits how many players we can have and still have £100k free BUT to say we can't match Huddersfield's ability to pay that kind of money simply isn't true.
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one question if that is the case and we could match huddersfields offer to carney (this doe's not mean i want us to go for carney) why are we reported to be looking at 3 NL1 players ?why are we not looking for better playersSteadman_4_PM wrote:For a start, do you know what their revenue make up is in relation to ours? Unless you do and know the income of each club then you don't know how things compare.
Even ignoring that though you're assuming Huddersfield can afford to pay Carney say £100k a year and we can not. This simply isn't true, we can and do pay players that kind of money however clearly aren't interested in Carney otherwise would have made a move. Sure if we can only spend say 70% of the cap then it limits how many players we can have and still have £100k free BUT to say we can't match Huddersfield's ability to pay that kind of money simply isn't true.
Maybe because better players wont come, arnt available, quota places are filled where for example a player may come but cant as no places for them etc.cutsyke tiger wrote:one question if that is the case and we could match huddersfields offer to carney (this doe's not mean i want us to go for carney) why are we reported to be looking at 3 NL1 players ?why are we not looking for better playersSteadman_4_PM wrote:For a start, do you know what their revenue make up is in relation to ours? Unless you do and know the income of each club then you don't know how things compare.
Even ignoring that though you're assuming Huddersfield can afford to pay Carney say £100k a year and we can not. This simply isn't true, we can and do pay players that kind of money however clearly aren't interested in Carney otherwise would have made a move. Sure if we can only spend say 70% of the cap then it limits how many players we can have and still have £100k free BUT to say we can't match Huddersfield's ability to pay that kind of money simply isn't true.
On a slightly different note, we should take a leave out of Saint Helens book . They have managed there funds extremly well over the years, without the backing of big money men .
They have the right people on board who know what they are talking about . As ST posted on another thread we need change when and if we move, but will they shift ! may need a little push .
They have the right people on board who know what they are talking about . As ST posted on another thread we need change when and if we move, but will they shift ! may need a little push .
Maybe they don't want to stand down because they want to rectify the mistakes they've made in seasons gone by.
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We arent spending the full cap and there isnt enough cash left in our budget mate -- Hence why were looking at bringing NL1 players incutsyke tiger wrote:one question if that is the case and we could match huddersfields offer to carney (this doe's not mean i want us to go for carney) why are we reported to be looking at 3 NL1 players ?why are we not looking for better playersSteadman_4_PM wrote:For a start, do you know what their revenue make up is in relation to ours? Unless you do and know the income of each club then you don't know how things compare.
Even ignoring that though you're assuming Huddersfield can afford to pay Carney say £100k a year and we can not. This simply isn't true, we can and do pay players that kind of money however clearly aren't interested in Carney otherwise would have made a move. Sure if we can only spend say 70% of the cap then it limits how many players we can have and still have £100k free BUT to say we can't match Huddersfield's ability to pay that kind of money simply isn't true.
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I can't see Cas handling their funds well any time soon. Especially with the way they are splashing out on these extreme contracts for players.Wicksy wrote:On a slightly different note, we should take a leave out of Saint Helens book . They have managed there funds extremly well over the years, without the backing of big money men .
They have the right people on board who know what they are talking about . As ST posted on another thread we need change when and if we move, but will they shift ! may need a little push .
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I thik if you check into they have a lot backing from a certain big money person, but they have just not shouted it from the roof topsWicksy wrote:On a slightly different note, we should take a leave out of Saint Helens book . They have managed there funds extremly well over the years, without the backing of big money men .
They have the right people on board who know what they are talking about . As ST posted on another thread we need change when and if we move, but will they shift ! may need a little push .
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To ask that questions suggests you didn't read my post properly.cutsyke tiger wrote:one question if that is the case and we could match huddersfields offer to carney (this doe's not mean i want us to go for carney) why are we reported to be looking at 3 NL1 players ?why are we not looking for better playersSteadman_4_PM wrote:For a start, do you know what their revenue make up is in relation to ours? Unless you do and know the income of each club then you don't know how things compare.
Even ignoring that though you're assuming Huddersfield can afford to pay Carney say £100k a year and we can not. This simply isn't true, we can and do pay players that kind of money however clearly aren't interested in Carney otherwise would have made a move. Sure if we can only spend say 70% of the cap then it limits how many players we can have and still have £100k free BUT to say we can't match Huddersfield's ability to pay that kind of money simply isn't true.
We have players on that or around that amount of money and as we can not spend the full cap, this means a reduced amount of money available for other squad places. In terms of the 3 NL1 players, 1 is at least a youngster and so could make a career in SL, the others well its hopefully to have a slightly better quality than academy players who are as of yet, not ready.
So we can only sign so many better players as you put it, but then that's quite different to you using Huddersfield's gates as a slight on our ability to go in for one specific player.
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You ok DI ?Di wrote:I thik oif you check into they have a lot back from a certain big money person, but they have just not shouted it from the roof topsWicksy wrote:On a slightly different note, we should take a leave out of Saint Helens book . They have managed there funds extremly well over the years, without the backing of big money men .
They have the right people on board who know what they are talking about . As ST posted on another thread we need change when and if we move, but will they shift ! may need a little push .
Maybe they don't want to stand down because they want to rectify the mistakes they've made in seasons gone by.
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yeah why?Wicksy wrote:You ok DI ?Di wrote:I thik oif you check into they have a lot back from a certain big money person, but they have just not shouted it from the roof topsWicksy wrote:On a slightly different note, we should take a leave out of Saint Helens book . They have managed there funds extremly well over the years, without the backing of big money men .
They have the right people on board who know what they are talking about . As ST posted on another thread we need change when and if we move, but will they shift ! may need a little push .
I was just suprised more people, don't know about the money that have been put in thw Saints, didn't mean it to sound off, sorry if it did, I blame Adam
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Am wi it nw .Di wrote:yeah why?Wicksy wrote:You ok DI ?Di wrote:I thik oif you check into they have a lot back from a certain big money person, but they have just not shouted it from the roof topsWicksy wrote:On a slightly different note, we should take a leave out of Saint Helens book . They have managed there funds extremly well over the years, without the backing of big money men .
They have the right people on board who know what they are talking about . As ST posted on another thread we need change when and if we move, but will they shift ! may need a little push .
I was just suprised more people, don't know about the money that have been put in thw Saints, didn't mean it to sound off, sorry if it did, I blame Adam
Maybe they don't want to stand down because they want to rectify the mistakes they've made in seasons gone by.
Re: No Carney
We do have a few people who can play at 6, but Carney is better than all of them put together. If we had/have the opportunity to sign him we would be daft not to take it.dettoriman wrote:We have Sherwin, Mcgoldrick, Chase, Faumina - All who can play 6 next year -- And you want us to shell out another 100k on someone else to play the same positioncutsyke tiger wrote:Looks as if carney is signing for huddersfield makes you wonder where we are going wrong when a team who has one of the lowest attendences in S/L can sign the players they are doing
We have our fair share of trouble makers in our squad and i dont think were "going wrong" by not signing him
We seem to like handing out big contracts for average/past it players, why not stump up for a real quality player?
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Because there you have it mate -- Were handing out silly contracts to others -- And there is just not enough cash left in this years budget - Simple asSlash wrote:We do have a few people who can play at 6, but Carney is better than all of them put together. If we had/have the opportunity to sign him we would be daft not to take it.dettoriman wrote:We have Sherwin, Mcgoldrick, Chase, Faumina - All who can play 6 next year -- And you want us to shell out another 100k on someone else to play the same positioncutsyke tiger wrote:Looks as if carney is signing for huddersfield makes you wonder where we are going wrong when a team who has one of the lowest attendences in S/L can sign the players they are doing
We have our fair share of trouble makers in our squad and i dont think were "going wrong" by not signing him
We seem to like handing out big contracts for average/past it players, why not stump up for a real quality player?
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Re: No Carney
He is hardly a reject, it's just the NRL actually have a backbone with their disciplinary system. He would get a contract at almost any NRL club if it wasn't for the fact that the NRL wouldn't register him.dettoriman wrote:I arent diving in feet first -- You ask why a club with attendences that are low can sign an NRL reject trouble maker, Easy - They throw some cash at himcutsyke tiger wrote:As usual your diving in feet first where doe's it say i want the club to sign him and shell out £100,000 TRY READING THE POST the point being made is how can huddersfield make the signings on the strength of their gates which is inferior to ours.and i do not need you to tell me what players we have at the club and positions they playdettoriman wrote:We have Sherwin, Mcgoldrick, Chase, Faumina - All who can play 6 next year -- And you want us to shell out another 100k on someone else to play the same positioncutsyke tiger wrote:Looks as if carney is signing for huddersfield makes you wonder where we are going wrong when a team who has one of the lowest attendences in S/L can sign the players they are doing
We have our fair share of trouble makers in our squad and i dont think were "going wrong" by not signing him
Do you honestly think we shouldn't have signed him if we could?
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Mate if it was up to me we would have -- But that would only be if we had some smart people on our board that had set sensible contracts for our players meaning we had some cash leftSlash wrote:He is hardly a reject, it's just the NRL actually have a backbone with their disciplinary system. He would get a contract at almost any NRL club if it wasn't for the fact that the NRL wouldn't register him.dettoriman wrote:I arent diving in feet first -- You ask why a club with attendences that are low can sign an NRL reject trouble maker, Easy - They throw some cash at himcutsyke tiger wrote:As usual your diving in feet first where doe's it say i want the club to sign him and shell out £100,000 TRY READING THE POST the point being made is how can huddersfield make the signings on the strength of their gates which is inferior to ours.and i do not need you to tell me what players we have at the club and positions they playdettoriman wrote:We have Sherwin, Mcgoldrick, Chase, Faumina - All who can play 6 next year -- And you want us to shell out another 100k on someone else to play the same positioncutsyke tiger wrote:Looks as if carney is signing for huddersfield makes you wonder where we are going wrong when a team who has one of the lowest attendences in S/L can sign the players they are doing
We have our fair share of trouble makers in our squad and i dont think were "going wrong" by not signing him
Do you honestly think we shouldn't have signed him if we could?
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