Isn’t it marvellous..

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Re: Isn’t it marvellous..

Post by HuddsTigers » Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:46 pm

SWISS TONY!! wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:26 pm
Still dont know why we haven't used the marquee rule for shenton for the last few years! If rumour was true he was on 130k a year from coming from saints and we could have used the rule so only 75k was on the cap due to him coming through our ranks ala gale at Leeds then as a simple business decision it makes sense!
Because marquee players have to paid over £175k for it to be used.
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Re: Isn’t it marvellous..

Post by the machine » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:00 pm

HuddsTigers wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:46 pm
SWISS TONY!! wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:26 pm
Still dont know why we haven't used the marquee rule for shenton for the last few years! If rumour was true he was on 130k a year from coming from saints and we could have used the rule so only 75k was on the cap due to him coming through our ranks ala gale at Leeds then as a simple business decision it makes sense!
Because marquee players have to paid over £175k for it to be used.
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Re: Isn’t it marvellous..

Post by KB80 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:02 pm

HuddsTigers wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:46 pm
SWISS TONY!! wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:26 pm
Still dont know why we haven't used the marquee rule for shenton for the last few years! If rumour was true he was on 130k a year from coming from saints and we could have used the rule so only 75k was on the cap due to him coming through our ranks ala gale at Leeds then as a simple business decision it makes sense!
Because marquee players have to paid over £175k for it to be used.
150k.

75k if club trained ie Shenny and I'd guess Trueman (for future consideration) and Watts would also class as club trained.

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Re: Isn’t it marvellous..

Post by HuddsTigers » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:40 pm

the machine wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:00 pm
HuddsTigers wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:46 pm
SWISS TONY!! wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:26 pm
Still dont know why we haven't used the marquee rule for shenton for the last few years! If rumour was true he was on 130k a year from coming from saints and we could have used the rule so only 75k was on the cap due to him coming through our ranks ala gale at Leeds then as a simple business decision it makes sense!
Because marquee players have to paid over £175k for it to be used.
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Marquee Player – Each Super League and Championship Club is permitted to have two Marquee Players whose Salary Cap Value is limited to £150,000 (or £75,000 if Club Trained)'

That's how much they count on the cap. It is in the salary cap guidelines that to qualify all marquee players have to be paid £175k to be classed as marquee.

So you couldn't pay a player £100k and use marquee on him.
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Post by SWISS TONY!! » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:44 am

Thanks for the explenation HT. Always thought it was silly not to save cap space that way and wondered why we didnt
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Post by tigerfeat » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:42 am

On cover of Novembers Roar it says meet are 6 new recruits inside wonder who number 6 is ...
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Post by jackknife » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:08 pm

Maybe classing Rankin
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Post by fords » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:09 pm

jackknife wrote:
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Maybe classing Rankin
Taking the p*ss if they are. He is on loan and has been in 2019

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Post by Mysterio » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:31 pm

Can't wait to see these new high quality signings.

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Post by Fryston Tiger » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:28 pm

JR is named as one of the 6.....

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Post by Mysterio » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:20 am

Fryston Tiger wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:28 pm
JR is named as one of the 6.....
TRULY HONESTLY CANNOT BELIEVE OUR CLUB...

In my time ;

1994 RT winning team, needed one or two top quality additions to become joint favourites for the league title...result : rested on laurels. Went backwards.

1999 Squad genuinely needed one or two top quality additions to become joint favourites for the league title...result : rested on laurels. Went backwards

2017 squad absolutely only needed one or two top quality additions to become favourites for a GF win...result : rested on laurels. Went backwards

2018 pre season despite losing players Wells says we’re strong enough... :D

2019 - !

2020 - bottom half of table / potential relegation battle (no I’m not joking, it could quite easily happen next year, there’s only a couple of teams I’d ‘expect’ 2 points from

Digest & discuss....
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Post by nottinghamtiger » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:35 am

Mysterio wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:20 am
Fryston Tiger wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:28 pm
JR is named as one of the 6.....
TRULY HONESTLY CANNOT BELIEVE OUR CLUB...

In my time ;

1994 RT winning team, needed one or two top quality additions to become joint favourites for the league title...result : rested on laurels. Went backwards.

1999 Squad genuinely needed one or two top quality additions to become joint favourites for the league title...result : rested on laurels. Went backwards

2017 squad absolutely only needed one or two top quality additions to become favourites for a GF win...result : rested on laurels. Went backwards

2018 pre season despite losing players Wells says we’re strong enough... :D

2019 - !

2020 - bottom half of table / potential relegation battle (no I’m not joking, it could quite easily happen next year, there’s only a couple of teams I’d ‘expect’ 2 points from

Digest & discuss....
I’m not quite as pessimistic. I do think the club have made some very poor retention and recruitment decisions since 2017, but I still think we have the core of a very good team that has the potential to win something.
I’m more hopeful with our 2020 recruitment in terms of Feki, Richardson and Griffin. Feki is a massive improvement on James Clare, Richardson will replace a player who has only played a handful of games in the last two years and Griffin adds versatility to the back row/loose forward positions.
I also think (hope!) Cheyse Blair will up his game after a proper pre-season at the club and with some consistency in terms of the players he has inside and outside him.
I still worry about our full-back situation (and think we’ll massively regret not bringing in Alex Walker).
I can’t see us catching Saints and I think Wigan will also be better next year with Hastings and Burgess. But beyond that, I think we can be better than the other clubs and finish third.

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Post by Tamworth Tiger » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:44 am

Whilst I am an optimist and have high hopes for next season, in a historical context I could add the dismantling of the 69/70 team which was the backbone of the 1970 Ashes winning Lions squad and the sell off of the 1977 double trophy and 3rd in the table team to the two Hull sides (Feath did the same) who went on to carry all before them for half a dozen years
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Re: Isn’t it marvellous..

Post by tigerfeat » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:59 am

Mysterio wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:20 am
Fryston Tiger wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:28 pm
JR is named as one of the 6.....
TRULY HONESTLY CANNOT BELIEVE OUR CLUB...

In my time ;

1994 RT winning team, needed one or two top quality additions to become joint favourites for the league title...result : rested on laurels. Went backwards.

1999 Squad genuinely needed one or two top quality additions to become joint favourites for the league title...result : rested on laurels. Went backwards

2017 squad absolutely only needed one or two top quality additions to become favourites for a GF win...result : rested on laurels. Went backwards

2018 pre season despite losing players Wells says we’re strong enough... :D

2019 - !

2020 - bottom half of table / potential relegation battle (no I’m not joking, it could quite easily happen next year, there’s only a couple of teams I’d ‘expect’ 2 points from

Digest & discuss....
I agree with you about what's happened when we've had the best team in the league ala 2017 losing zak letting a talent like Mcllend slip away signing average players like Ellis Clare Aston we got it all wrong again
I'm optimistic on next season tho given we got to within 80 minutes of a semi with a team that were busted and couldn't break teams down to score points
Only Hull I see making a big improvement to have Leeds at 12s and cas at 20s to win the GF is barmy id have Leeds 50s and cas about 7s
A lot will depend on wether Rankin re-pays the faith in getting the number one jersey and whoever plays at 9 I presume Mcshane needs to be a lot better than we had in that position last year
There was also a very telling interview with the conditioner a few weeks ago where he basically said we'd got things wrong and there would be a whole new approach for 2020
The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have
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Re: Isn’t it marvellous..

Post by Tamworth Tiger » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:17 am

tigerfeat wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:59 am
Mysterio wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:20 am
Fryston Tiger wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:28 pm
JR is named as one of the 6.....
TRULY HONESTLY CANNOT BELIEVE OUR CLUB...

In my time ;

1994 RT winning team, needed one or two top quality additions to become joint favourites for the league title...result : rested on laurels. Went backwards.

1999 Squad genuinely needed one or two top quality additions to become joint favourites for the league title...result : rested on laurels. Went backwards

2017 squad absolutely only needed one or two top quality additions to become favourites for a GF win...result : rested on laurels. Went backwards

2018 pre season despite losing players Wells says we’re strong enough... :D

2019 - !

2020 - bottom half of table / potential relegation battle (no I’m not joking, it could quite easily happen next year, there’s only a couple of teams I’d ‘expect’ 2 points from

Digest & discuss....
I agree with you about what's happened when we've had the best team in the league ala 2017 losing zak letting a talent like Mcllend slip away signing average players like Ellis Clare Aston we got it all wrong again
I'm optimistic on next season tho given we got to within 80 minutes of a semi with a team that were busted and couldn't break teams down to score points
Only Hull I see making a big improvement to have Leeds at 12s and cas at 20s to win the GF is barmy id have Leeds 50s and cas about 7s
A lot will depend on wether Rankin re-pays the faith in getting the number one jersey and whoever plays at 9 I presume Mcshane needs to be a lot better than we had in that position last year
There was also a very telling interview with the conditioner a few weeks ago where he basically said we'd got things wrong and there would be a whole new approach for 2020
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