Fans return

[gateman]

May 17TH is the date given for a return of 4,000 fans as we have 2,500 season ticket holders the club as a problem how and who gets the remaining 1,500 not all the season ticket holders may feel ready to return

[Mucky1978]

I don’t see a problem 1500 go on sale 1st come basis.
season ticket holders don’t go they just lose money for that game.

[FIat Capper]

I assume some will be required by the opposition?

Other than that, I can't see any other way than the first come basis.

[Tigerade]

It's not 4000 though. The ruling is a quarter of your capacity or 10,000 whichever is the smallest. So, in our case it would be a quarter of the capacity which to my understanding is just over 12,000 giving us room to get in just 3,000 season ticket holders.

As far as I see it we have a problem already. We have sold over 3,000 (correct me if I'm wrong) so some season ticket holders won't get in.

A second potential problem concerns seating. The ruling mentions capacity as "seating capacity" which potentially throws a massive spanner in the works.

I wouldn't be surprise to see no games played at Wheldon Road at all until the rule is changed due to declining Covid19 deaths/cases. Tigers "home" games might all be played at a stadium that can accommodate 3 to 4 thousand season ticket holders.

[Casmania]

It's not 4000 though. The ruling is a quarter of your capacity or 10,000 whichever is the smallest. So, in our case it would be a quarter of the capacity which to my understanding is just over 12,000 giving us room to get in just 3,000 season ticket holders.

As far as I see it we have a problem already. We have sold over 3,000 (correct me if I'm wrong) so some season ticket holders won't get in.

A second potential problem concerns seating. The ruling mentions capacity as "seating capacity" which potentially throws a massive spanner in the works.

I wouldn't be surprise to see no games played at Wheldon Road at all until the rule is changed due to declining Covid19 deaths/cases. Tigers "home" games might all be played at a stadium that can accommodate 3 to 4 thousand season ticket holders.

The safety capacity is set at 11,650, this includes both sets of players and officials. Cas officials and staff, safety stewards, bar staff, turnstile operators etc (about 180 in total. )
Plus directors, partners, sponsors etc.

The seating stand would also being an issue, with very narrow rows and aisles.

[tigerfeat]

Oh dear no games at Cas till the end of June then...maybe 600 or so lucky ones drawn out of a hat

[derbystiger]

It's not 4000 though. The ruling is a quarter of your capacity or 10,000 whichever is the smallest. So, in our case it would be a quarter of the capacity which to my understanding is just over 12,000 giving us room to get in just 3,000 season ticket holders.

As far as I see it we have a problem already. We have sold over 3,000 (correct me if I'm wrong) so some season ticket holders won't get in.

A second potential problem concerns seating. The ruling mentions capacity as "seating capacity" which potentially throws a massive spanner in the works.

I wouldn't be surprise to see no games played at Wheldon Road at all until the rule is changed due to declining Covid19 deaths/cases. Tigers "home" games might all be played at a stadium that can accommodate 3 to 4 thousand season ticket holders.

As far as I can work out it is 4000;

Sports events indoors will be allowed up to 1,000 people or 50% of a venue's capacity, whichever is lower, while outdoor events will have a capacity of either 50% or 4,000 people, whichever is lower.
There will be a special provision for large, outdoor, seated venues where crowds can be safely distributed, allowing up to 10,000 people or 25% of total seated capacity, whichever is lower.

[Tigerade]

Cheers for that Derbystiger. I would imagine we come into the middle category i.e. "Outdoor Sport Event". The only grey area is the bit about seating/standing ratio.

[derbystiger]

Cheers for that Derbystiger. I would imagine we come into the middle category i.e. "Outdoor Sport Event". The only grey area is the bit about seating/standing ratio.

Maybe take 25% of the seating stand capacity so that gives 375 seating and then deduct that from 4000 to give how many can stand, so 3625 standing? That could all get a little too complicated though!

[Tigers1926]

I'd like to think the standing can be sorted and as many fans able to attend COYF

[on side]

Depends, ow we are doing results and performance wise 4000 might not be a problem lol if we near bottom struggling. On the other had we start off on fire and near top every body will want a ticket. They might even bring a vaccine, passport systen to improve how many people are aload in sports staduims as being suggested by some government members,.

[casjunction]

I would hope the club will be liaising with the appropriate authorities to get a definitive answer.
I would be surprised if any staff would be included unless they are in the viewing area in which case they are tentatively spectators.
Bar staff if the don't venture from their bar stations if not in sight of the pitch should be exempt.
We can all speculate as to how many and how they will be allocated.
But my interpretation is spectators by definition receive no cash or in kind renumeration and are paying customers by a defined definition.
As for who will choose to attend is a moot point as some season ticket holders may for a variety of reasons bide their time.
But it's so good to having the discussion.
I could almost feel magnanimous to on side as the light at the end of the tunnel is no longer an express train coming towards us.
COYF.

[FIat Capper]

IIRC, there are currently no plans to remove the 2m social distancing rules which would make life in the main stand a tad difficult. Could be space for just a third of the usual occupancy, if not less.

[tigerfeat]

IIRC, there are currently no plans to remove the 2m social distancing rules which would make life in the main stand a tad difficult. Could be space for just a third of the usual occupancy, if not less.

Yeah like I said yesterday a few hundred fans dotted around our stand if there's to be no standing
Maybe think of moving games to other grounds like the Keepmoat if it means getting 4,000 fans in no idea if that would be a option
Sure the club is looking for clarification on what's allowed at out ground up until the end of June

[mart0042]

If its the expected 25% of 11650 capacity. That's 2912.

I certainly know we are over 2200 season tickets, so staff, season ticket holders and sponsors is about right. You might even have a few spares from non attendees to give away to NHS and key workers.

I don't expect to have my covid jab by then as I fall into the last, bracket adults aged 18 to 49. Certainly not 2 jabs. If you need some sort of covid passport, I'll happily give my ticket up for the nhs/key workers. I would reckon a lot of fans would do the same.

[Lofthouse Tiger]

I see comments about ground capacity when we return. One question I have is why do people think we can only use the seated part of the ground?

3,000 would be easy to monitor using all areas of the ground and social distancing should be simple to put in place. 750 fans in each section should be simple to organise.

Shouldn’t it?