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Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 21:17
by Keithy
So we have today signed James Clare on a 1 year contract for 2021.
He is the 10th player that we have signed this past few weeks all of which have been given a single years' contract. Admittedly, two of these are on loan from the Giants, six are contract extensions and the remaining two are new signings. The only player to be given a longer contract is Gareth O'Brien on a 3 year deal. I believe I'm correct in saying that even Nial Evalds has only signed up for 1 year.
In my mind Clare, Smith, Bienek, Hepi and Millington's 1 year deals are correct but surely Jaques O'Neill and Ollie Holmes deserve longer contracts should they have wanted such. Evalds should have a 5 year deal.
My concern is that at the end of 2021 there is a possibility that half of our squad will be out of contract and we will be up the creek without a paddle.
I assume that most of Cas fans will think I'm wrong but as the title says it's a discussion point if you want.
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 21:22
by HuddsTigers
The situation with a new TV deal is up in there. We may either need to cut budgets due to low income coming into the club or we will be in a fantastic position of having lots of cap space for a big recruitment year. Sensible business planning and either way, win win, as long as it is used effectively.
The likes of O'Neill and Evalds can also get better deals as well if we can maintain our cap spend.
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 21:22
by Fumper27
Only Matagi is on loan from Huddersfield. Jordan Turner joined us permanently, albeit on a 1 year deal.
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 21:37
by LeagueLeaders
I haven't seen much about the contracts but are any "with the option to extend.." in whoever's favour? If Cas have given 1 year deals but get first dibs beyond that then it's not bad business at all. Only worry is that if this isn't the case then other clubs can easily swoop in and take some of our starting 17.
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 21:38
by Tigerman2014
I believe Evalds and O’Neill will both sign longer contracts as we get into next season as will a few more Holmes,Griffin,Massey etc Millo and Sheno more then likely retire and JSL will head home
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 21:40
by Mucky1978
50/50 if we are getting a super league licence big year indeed.
Heard it’s between us and Waki to be cut.
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 21:41
by Tigerman2014
Where has this about licensing come from ?? Plus we’ve achieved far more then Wakey have during super league
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 22:25
by nottinghamtiger
The only one I think is a bit strange is Evalds. It was always going to cause murmurings that he was only here for a year before going to [insert club here].
My understanding is that it is more to do with the salary cap and a deal behind 2021 is already agreed, but I’m not too sure about that to be completely honest.
For too long, we’ve given out multi-year deals only to see a player’s performance drop as soon as the ink is dry. Top players like Watts, McShane, Richardson and Trueman need to be on multiple-year contracts, but not the whole squad.
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 22:33
by MrRugby123
When will people stop moaning, we moan when we give you players long term contracts and we moan when we give them short term contracts. Yes cas have a shocking ground and facilities but we won’t be pushed out of super league just for that. Cas have a great following home and away compared to some in the league and is a desirable club to some top players like Evalds, Richardson, Hardaker and watts that want to come play here. Finances are tough for all clubs at the moment so they’re not gonna kick an established super league club out of the league.
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 22:39
by Fumper27
Mucky1978 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2020, 21:40
50/50 if we are getting a super league licence big year indeed.
Heard it’s between us and Waki to be cut.
When was it announced that licensing is coming back? I must’ve missed that one.
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 22:49
by Pricey2000
Keithy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2020, 21:17
So we have today signed James Clare on a 1 year contract for 2021.
He is the 10th player that we have signed this past few weeks all of which have been given a single years' contract. Admittedly, two of these are on loan from the Giants, six are contract extensions and the remaining two are new signings. The only player to be given a longer contract is Gareth O'Brien on a 3 year deal. I believe I'm correct in saying that even Nial Evalds has only signed up for 1 year.
In my mind Clare, Smith, Bienek, Hepi and Millington's 1 year deals are correct but surely Jaques O'Neill and Ollie Holmes deserve longer contracts should they have wanted such. Evalds should have a 5 year deal.
My concern is that at the end of 2021 there is a possibility that half of our squad will be out of contract and we will be up the creek without a paddle.
I assume that most of Cas fans will think I'm wrong but as the title says it's a discussion point if you want.
Turner signed a contract with us he’s with us on a 1 year deal we’re signing players on 1 year deals because of the covid situation until we know what money we’ve got this will be reviewed at the middle point in the season Evalds has an option of a 3 year extension in his contract once finances are sorted so I’d expect the others will sign new contracts middle of the season or even towards the back end of the season
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 08:33
by Nobody
Mucky1978 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2020, 21:40
50/50 if we are getting a super league licence big year indeed.
Heard it’s between us and Waki to be cut.
Quite possible if the article is true about Nrl buying a stake in super league.
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 10:35
by on side
HuddsTigers wrote: ↑09 Dec 2020, 21:22
The situation with a new TV deal is up in there. We may either need to cut budgets due to low income coming into the club or we will be in a fantastic position of having lots of cap space for a big recruitment year. Sensible business planning and either way, win win, as long as it is used effectively.
The likes of O'Neill and Evalds can also get better deals as well if we can maintain our cap spend.
Evalds off to saints reason for is one year deal. Other one year deals probaly getting new ground confirmed so have more money to make better signings.
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 10:38
by tigerfeat
Mucky1978 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2020, 21:40
50/50 if we are getting a super league licence big year indeed.
Heard it’s between us and Waki to be cut.
You just made that up ant you ?
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 11:36
by tigerfeat
NRL wanting 50% of super league for 75million be a interesting move if it happens ...
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 11:42
by Fumper27
tigerfeat wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 11:36
NRL wanting 50% of super league for 75million be a interesting move if it happens ...
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky ... e-12156206
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 12:00
by Flat Capper
It's pretty clear to me that the raft of 1 year deals is purely a financial decision, and rightly so. It could be argued that it is a risky policy as players may seek longer deals and greater job security elsewhere but I give credit to the Club for both, this policy and the ability to secure a number of players through it.
Should the NRL become major stakeholders in the SL then the game as a whole will have to take a long hard look at itself with potential impacts on licencing, promotion/relegation , TV monies and competition structure. As much as I admire their (NRL) success on and off the field, I wouldn't want to become an NRL2.
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 17:19
by on side
I would be concerned for cas if nrl take over they are massive fans off smaller town clubs merging that's why happened to about six clubs in nrl.
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 17:21
by old cas lass
on side wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 17:19
I would be concerned for cas if nrl take over they are massive fans off smaller town clubs merging that's why happened to about six clubs in nrl.
Rather drop to championship and keep our identity.
Re: Discussion point (if you want).
Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 18:11
by Nobody
old cas lass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 17:21
on side wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 17:19
I would be concerned for cas if nrl take over they are massive fans off smaller town clubs merging that's why happened to about six clubs in nrl.
Rather drop to championship and keep our identity.
Same here, rather chew on glass than merge with bin dippers.
