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Present Climate

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:40 am
by Big Shug
Clearly, our great team are suffering from both poor form and the ongoing pandemic.
Having watched the so called top 4 perform with their youth being blooded make me so angry as we are a so called grass roots RL area with not much future talent inbound.

On to Thursday, will we get anything from the Leeds game with a Luke Gale pulling the strings, what a master class against Wigan yesterday. Hopefully, a few bodies back a fair referee and 2 days extra rest might see us resume normal business against the Whino’s.

Re: Present Climate

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:48 am
by Mucky1978
Leeds will hammer us I’m afraid to say.
I’m going for 40-6
Gale to score 2
Penalty count 14-3 in Leeds favour.

Re: Present Climate

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:08 am
by old cas lass
I think the grass root area is about exhausted.
Schools around the cas area are bringing no young talent through.
Not sure on the 16 youngsters that’s just signed where they are from.
It’s a sad sorry state of affairs.

Re: Present Climate

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:35 pm
by duke street 10
I think player participation has dropped in the sport over the last few years at amateur level.

Re: Present Climate

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:04 pm
by yorky
when you look at the injuries im amazed anyone wants to play rugby.

Re: Present Climate

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:24 pm
by Lofthouse Tiger
old cas lass wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:08 am
I think the grass root area is about exhausted.
Schools around the cas area are bringing no young talent through.
Not sure on the 16 youngsters that’s just signed where they are from.
It’s a sad sorry state of affairs.
Dear oh dear OCL. You can’t blame the state of our club on the schools. Poor shout.

Re: Present Climate

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:39 pm
by old cas lass
Lofthouse Tiger wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:24 pm
old cas lass wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:08 am
I think the grass root area is about exhausted.
Schools around the cas area are bringing no young talent through.
Not sure on the 16 youngsters that’s just signed where they are from.
It’s a sad sorry state of affairs.
Dear oh dear OCL. You can’t blame the state of our club on the schools. Poor shout.
Just answering the OP.
He mentioned cas being an area of grass roots Rugby players.
And none coming through.
Like I said, local schools, cas AA and Airedale AA arnt bringing young Local talent through.
Cas schools used to be regulars winners at the school finals.
Not anymore. Why.

Re: Present Climate

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:54 pm
by nottinghamtiger
old cas lass wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:39 pm
Lofthouse Tiger wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:24 pm
old cas lass wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:08 am
I think the grass root area is about exhausted.
Schools around the cas area are bringing no young talent through.
Not sure on the 16 youngsters that’s just signed where they are from.
It’s a sad sorry state of affairs.
Dear oh dear OCL. You can’t blame the state of our club on the schools. Poor shout.
Just answering the OP.
He mentioned cas being an area of grass roots Rugby players.
And none coming through.
Like I said, local schools, cas AA and Airedale AA arnt bringing young Local talent through.
Cas schools used to be regulars winners at the school finals.
Not anymore. Why.
That is because the core function of a school is not to produce RL players.
They are there to offer an all-round education that gives all their pupils the best chance of a positive future. Generally, that involves ensuring their pupils get the best grades they are capable of, not investing a significant amount of time (and money) into trying to produce a handful of RL players.
Schools serve all the the community and their priority is education. Their purpose is not to produce future RL players.

Re: Present Climate

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:31 pm
by old cas lass
nottinghamtiger wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:54 pm
old cas lass wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:39 pm
Lofthouse Tiger wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:24 pm
old cas lass wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:08 am
I think the grass root area is about exhausted.
Schools around the cas area are bringing no young talent through.
Not sure on the 16 youngsters that’s just signed where they are from.
It’s a sad sorry state of affairs.
Dear oh dear OCL. You can’t blame the state of our club on the schools. Poor shout.
Just answering the OP.
He mentioned cas being an area of grass roots Rugby players.
And none coming through.
Like I said, local schools, cas AA and Airedale AA arnt bringing young Local talent through.
Cas schools used to be regulars winners at the school finals.
Not anymore. Why.
That is because the core function of a school is not to produce RL players.
They are there to offer an all-round education that gives all their pupils the best chance of a positive future. Generally, that involves ensuring their pupils get the best grades they are capable of, not investing a significant amount of time (and money) into trying to produce a handful of RL players.
Schools serve all the the community and their priority is education. Their purpose is not to produce future RL players.
Exactly notts.
Finance arnt there for sport like 15/20 years ago.
Yes a certain amount of PE/games are on the curriculum,
After school sports ie, rugby football, hockey netball arnt a priority.
In fact most kids would far sooner go home and jump straight on their play stations.
The majority of school kids arnt interested in sports.
I have a great example but can’t put in on here.

Re: Present Climate

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:44 pm
by nottinghamtiger
old cas lass wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:31 pm
nottinghamtiger wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:54 pm
old cas lass wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:39 pm
Lofthouse Tiger wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:24 pm
old cas lass wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:08 am
I think the grass root area is about exhausted.
Schools around the cas area are bringing no young talent through.
Not sure on the 16 youngsters that’s just signed where they are from.
It’s a sad sorry state of affairs.
Dear oh dear OCL. You can’t blame the state of our club on the schools. Poor shout.
Just answering the OP.
He mentioned cas being an area of grass roots Rugby players.
And none coming through.
Like I said, local schools, cas AA and Airedale AA arnt bringing young Local talent through.
Cas schools used to be regulars winners at the school finals.
Not anymore. Why.
That is because the core function of a school is not to produce RL players.
They are there to offer an all-round education that gives all their pupils the best chance of a positive future. Generally, that involves ensuring their pupils get the best grades they are capable of, not investing a significant amount of time (and money) into trying to produce a handful of RL players.
Schools serve all the the community and their priority is education. Their purpose is not to produce future RL players.
Exactly notts.
Finance arnt there for sport like 15/20 years ago.
Yes a certain amount of PE/games are on the curriculum,
After school sports ie, rugby football, hockey netball arnt a priority.
In fact most kids would far sooner go home and jump straight on their play stations.
The majority of school kids arnt interested in sports.
I have a great example but can’t put in on here.
To be fair, part of me understands why they don’t.
Would I encourage my child to pursue a career in RL? Absolutely not. It’s poorly paid (mostly), insecure, short-term and has an almost-guaranteed impact on long-term physical health and future job prospects. I’d rather my kids spent their time getting decent qualifications that are more likely to set them up for life.

Re: Present Climate

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:35 pm
by westerbeast73
Not all children are good at passing exams, but are very good at playing sport. Castleford has progressed a lot over the last 10 Years in education. So maybe sport is taking a back burner.

Re: Present Climate

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:27 am
by daytona
With no dual reg or reserves next season and most super league teams not paying the under 19s next year, if I was a budding young player or a fringe super league player I think I’d be looking at getting a job and playing in the championship.

Re: Present Climate

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:20 am
by mdean
There is a lot of sense spoken in this discussion in my humble opinion.

I have certainly seen a big change in the social set up for my own kids - very little extra curricular clubs and stuff anymore, a lot of them are private/commercial now and I agree with what most people said above. The primary purpose of schools is foundation education not sport. I don't blame schools with the financial and legal implications for doing less of this and they're primarily judged on academic results.

Anecdotally and entirely a personal point - on the participation side my own son tells me in secondary school that they play sports in ability groups, often the top group play against the second set as it were - He suggests to me that kind of ruins it for everyone in that the best kids are not challenged and the ones who play for fun have no fun because they're being tonked off the park every lesson. No easy answers but mass participation is well documented to be the route to more quality at the top of the pyramid and I guess that if it isn't fun then kids won't want to do it. He tells me every week they should either separate or play in mixed ability teams that would make it more fun for everyone.

I enjoyed playing a lot of sports, but never considered myself particularly good at any of them, but that didn't stop me wanting to participate. The sporting environment my son is in at school he tells me lacks the enjoyment and therefore erodes his enthusiasm for participating.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:50 pm
by gateman
Teachers can have a big influence Percy White did a lot at bringing players through first at a CAS School he did the same when ne moved to Normanton modern

Re: Present Climate

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:12 pm
by Flat Capper
Schools years 7-11/12 may not have a primary function of providing sporting opportunities but education in sport remains vital for some.

It is certainly the case that higher education courses in sports do exist for 16/17 year olds and these can be used as a basis for a career in sport, playing, coaching, nutrition, fitness, physiotherapy and so on. For me, having a keen interest in sport seems central to all these goals so high school education should be including sport as an educational tool.

In addition, local junior clubs should be linked to the pro clubs somehow.

The future of the game is the kids of today.