Government u-turn on crowds

[frainthepain]

Pilot schemes axed

[Tigers1926]

Unbelievable, especially when we would be outside and really spread out around the ground in open air, whereas pubs are the total opposite and can still be open till 10pm. Is it me or is everything arse about?

[Fumper27]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54246745

This is from 1st October. Given our planned game is on 30th September, could that still go ahead?

[Fumper27]

Pilot schemes axed

So you’ve spent £325 on a ticket to a game you now cannot attend

[nottinghamtiger]

Pilot schemes axed

So you’ve spent £325 on a ticket to a game you now cannot attend

No. Even if what he says is true, it’s actually £325 of other people’s money that they donated to support grassroots RL.

[tigerfeat]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54246745

This is from 1st October. Given our planned game is on 30th September, could that still go ahead?

Can't see that bit like all the people that went out partying day before rule of six came in so you never know
There's going to be waves of this virus keep coming until a vaccine is available things will reach a point where sporting clubs will start to go under at a rate of knots

[nottinghamtiger]

Thankfully was due to go down and see Mark on Thursday so no cash exchanged hands

I think that just about shows you up for what you are. Someone who will renege on an agreed donation (of other people’s money) to the club because you are not going to get something in return.
I’m still inclined to think it’s all hot air anyway. Sponsors who put thousands into the club were not getting tickets - every one was going in the ballot for ST holders.
No wonder the club don’t want anything to do with you.

[Mucky1978]

Just the government trying scare people again. 10 deaths yesterday from over 60 million people. It’s ok tho u can go cinema or a small pub and sit together tho.

[frainthepain]

Actually was to be 3 tickets with a pair to be auctioned.

I ask Notts tiger how much have you contributed or help contributed to Tigers foundation? Latest donation would of put my contribution over £1500.

[nottinghamtiger]

Actually was to be 3 tickets with a pair to be auctioned.

Of course it was.
The club were going to risk upsetting ST holders who didn’t get tickets by allowing some to be auctioned off to non-ST holders.
Honestly, I’ve never seen one individual spout such drivel.

[Fumper27]

The ballot box was all smoke screen. Certain people I know phoned Pell and he agreed tickets for them.

That's painting the club in a terrible light no idea wether your right just hope that your not

He’s never right Tigerfeat, don’t worry.

[nottinghamtiger]

Just the government trying scare people again. 10 deaths yesterday from over 60 million people. It’s ok tho u can go cinema or a small pub and sit together tho.

Only before 10:00pm. Because after 10:00pm we all know the virus becomes more active and contagious.
I’ve spent months telling people that you can’t treat a virus like a conscious being, only for the government to then suggest that the time of day has a mediating affect on it.

[tigerfeat]

Just the government trying scare people again. 10 deaths yesterday from over 60 million people. It’s ok tho u can go cinema or a small pub and sit together tho.

Only before 10:00pm. Because after 10:00pm we all know the virus becomes more active and contagious.
I’ve spent months telling people that you can’t treat a virus like a conscious being, only for the government to then suggest that the time of day has a mediating affect on it.

Some top scientists and experts on virus saying where not doing enough others saying we should learn to live with it and not ruin the economy anymore by having restrictions it's hard for me to see where the truth lies I have to be honest

[nottinghamtiger]

Just the government trying scare people again. 10 deaths yesterday from over 60 million people. It’s ok tho u can go cinema or a small pub and sit together tho.

Only before 10:00pm. Because after 10:00pm we all know the virus becomes more active and contagious.
I’ve spent months telling people that you can’t treat a virus like a conscious being, only for the government to then suggest that the time of day has a mediating affect on it.

Some top scientists and experts on virus saying where not doing enough others saying we should learn to live with it and not ruin the economy anymore by having restrictions it's hard for me to see where the truth lies I have to be honest

That’s the thing with science - it’s as contested as any other discipline.
What all scientists agree on is that the virus (or any virus) does not have consciousness. Essentially, it does not have the capacity for thought. So making decisions based on the principle that it has some kind of ‘thinking ability’ is pointless. For example, closing pubs at 10:00pm will see such a marginal gain, because anyone who is there before then is probably already infected if they are going to be. If I go into a pub at 7:30pm and am exposed to CV-19, it matters not when I leave. The only gain will be that nobody with CV-19 will enter a pub after 10:00pm - as I say, such a marginal gain. I guess it reduces the time I’m ‘at risk’, but in an indoor space I’m probably going to get CV before that time is up.
It’s the people who spread the virus who have the capacity to think. There are two things that impact on the spread of the virus: the density of the population, and how dense the population is.

[Fumper27]

Just the government trying scare people again. 10 deaths yesterday from over 60 million people. It’s ok tho u can go cinema or a small pub and sit together tho.

Only before 10:00pm. Because after 10:00pm we all know the virus becomes more active and contagious.
I’ve spent months telling people that you can’t treat a virus like a conscious being, only for the government to then suggest that the time of day has a mediating affect on it.

Some top scientists and experts on virus saying where not doing enough others saying we should learn to live with it and not ruin the economy anymore by having restrictions it's hard for me to see where the truth lies I have to be honest

Exactly. It’s hard to know what is correct when the left hand contradicts what the right is saying.

I’m in the “learn to live with it” camp. However, had I known someone who’d passed away through this, I may think differently.

Agree with the poster who said about not been able to attend a sports event, where social distancing is easier, yet you can still go to a pub, where you could end up sat next to god knows who....where is the sense in that one?

[nottinghamtiger]

Just the government trying scare people again. 10 deaths yesterday from over 60 million people. It’s ok tho u can go cinema or a small pub and sit together tho.

Only before 10:00pm. Because after 10:00pm we all know the virus becomes more active and contagious.
I’ve spent months telling people that you can’t treat a virus like a conscious being, only for the government to then suggest that the time of day has a mediating affect on it.

Some top scientists and experts on virus saying where not doing enough others saying we should learn to live with it and not ruin the economy anymore by having restrictions it's hard for me to see where the truth lies I have to be honest

Exactly. It’s hard to know what is correct when the left hand contradicts what the right is saying.

I’m in the “learn to live with it” camp. However, had I known someone who’d passed away through this, I may think differently.

Agree with the poster who said about not been able to attend a sports event, where social distancing is easier, yet you can still go to a pub, where you could end up sat next to god knows who....where is the sense in that one?

It’s a bit crazy. I’d feel safer as one of 1,000 at Wheldon Road than I would in my local pub where there are only 30-50 people, but indoors and much closer together.
I think the basic principle is that the government is trying to keep open as many places as possible where people spend money and therefore support the economy and employment. The medical aspect of the virus is their secondary concern.
I suspect today’s announcement will be an effort to stop household-to-household transmission, so we’ll see a ban on mixing with other households in indoor environments such as homes and pubs/restaurants,

[casjunction]

There are some consistencies.
The Government has consistently given inconsistent advice.
As for the 10pm curfew.
Pubs and the night time economy becomes increasingly difficult to manage as the night goes on by imposing the curfew is an attempt to prevent the less inhibited behaviour
I seem to recollect early closing in Scotland certainly in Glasgow and Edinburgh to address the issues.
I personally believe there needs to be a mixture of measures but a realisation we may have to live with the consequences of preventing mass poverty.
I do find there are a small number of posters who too quickly resort to behaviour which shows lack of responsibility.
Probably they act thus in other ateas of their lives.

[nottinghamtiger]

There are some consistencies.
The Government has consistently given inconsistent advice.
As for the 10pm curfew.
Pubs and the night time economy becomes increasingly difficult to manage as the night goes on by imposing the curfew is an attempt to prevent the less inhibited behaviour
I seem to recollect early closing in Scotland certainly in Glasgow and Edinburgh to address the issues.
I personally believe there needs to be a mixture of measures but a realisation we may have to live with the consequences of preventing mass poverty.
I do find there are a small number of posters who too quickly resort to behaviour which shows lack of responsibility.
Probably they act thus in other ateas of their lives.

Unfortunately, I think people will just go out an hour earlier, or drink as much in a shorter space of time (thus only speeding up the drunken behaviour).
Can’t help but think it’s aimed at students either. The biggest rise in cases is amongst that group and they are all just starting to return to campus so it will spread like wildfire. In the case of students, all they will do is go back to their accommodation and continue drinking in a much more confined space.

[tigerfeat]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54246745

This is from 1st October. Given our planned game is on 30th September, could that still go ahead?

Can't see that bit like all the people that went out partying day before rule of six came in so you never know
There's going to be waves of this virus keep coming until a vaccine is available things will reach a point where sporting clubs will start to go under at a rate of knots

You might have a point here that the game could still have speccies if it's classed a trial the rugby union match tonight is scheduled to have fans in up to press I think

[tigerfeat]

No fans allowed in tonight's rugby union match that was on the trial list expect announcement on our game against Hull to follow shortly