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Another young kid gone. Joined Fev along with Jacob Doyle (announced yesterday).
In the spirit of the final Blackadder episode - Goooodbyeee!
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You can't keep them all I suppose, however, we seem to let good kids and ones with promise go far too quick without them even having chance to prove themselves.
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It's a shame to see him go, was really good in the academy, but lack of reserves or chances in the first team is going to see us lose players who need game time.
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Can't think of one we have let go that has been regrettable and who have had successful careers.heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 18:37 You can't keep them all I suppose, however, we seem to let good kids and ones with promise go far too quick without them even having chance to prove themselves.
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Just watching Tom Holmes with Hudds ..
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Who, in your opinion, fits your narrative?heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 18:37 You can't keep them all I suppose, however, we seem to let good kids and ones with promise go far too quick without them even having chance to prove themselves.
I can’t think of any...
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Just off the top of my head, Ryan Brierly. He was phenomenal as a kid and was outstanding in the academy, Cas kept promising him game time with pre season friendlies with the view to getting him experienced, as you can guess it never came off and he and his dad became disillusioned with the set up and looked else where.Fumper27 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 19:58Who, in your opinion, fits your narrative?heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 18:37 You can't keep them all I suppose, however, we seem to let good kids and ones with promise go far too quick without them even having chance to prove themselves.
I can’t think of any...
Forget what he's done and where he's at now, the fact is, he was the next big thing at Cas at 16/17/18 and let him down massively and thats a fact!
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Spot on heritage.heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 21:04Just off the top of my head, Ryan Brierly. He was phenomenal as a kid and was outstanding in the academy, Cas kept promising him game time with pre season friendlies with the view to getting him experienced, as you can guess it never came off and he and his dad became disillusioned with the set up and looked else where.Fumper27 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 19:58Who, in your opinion, fits your narrative?heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 18:37 You can't keep them all I suppose, however, we seem to let good kids and ones with promise go far too quick without them even having chance to prove themselves.
I can’t think of any...
Forget what he's done and where he's at now, the fact is, he was the next big thing at Cas at 16/17/18 and let him down massively and thats a fact!
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Spot on heritage.heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 21:04Just off the top of my head, Ryan Brierly. He was phenomenal as a kid and was outstanding in the academy, Cas kept promising him game time with pre season friendlies with the view to getting him experienced, as you can guess it never came off and he and his dad became disillusioned with the set up and looked else where.Fumper27 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 19:58Who, in your opinion, fits your narrative?heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 18:37 You can't keep them all I suppose, however, we seem to let good kids and ones with promise go far too quick without them even having chance to prove themselves.
I can’t think of any...
Forget what he's done and where he's at now, the fact is, he was the next big thing at Cas at 16/17/18 and let him down massively and thats a fact!
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Spot on heritage.heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 21:04Just off the top of my head, Ryan Brierly. He was phenomenal as a kid and was outstanding in the academy, Cas kept promising him game time with pre season friendlies with the view to getting him experienced, as you can guess it never came off and he and his dad became disillusioned with the set up and looked else where.Fumper27 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 19:58Who, in your opinion, fits your narrative?heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 18:37 You can't keep them all I suppose, however, we seem to let good kids and ones with promise go far too quick without them even having chance to prove themselves.
I can’t think of any...
Forget what he's done and where he's at now, the fact is, he was the next big thing at Cas at 16/17/18 and let him down massively and thats a fact!
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Putting “fact” doesn’t make it true!!!heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 21:04Just off the top of my head, Ryan Brierly. He was phenomenal as a kid and was outstanding in the academy, Cas kept promising him game time with pre season friendlies with the view to getting him experienced, as you can guess it never came off and he and his dad became disillusioned with the set up and looked else where.Fumper27 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 19:58Who, in your opinion, fits your narrative?heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 18:37 You can't keep them all I suppose, however, we seem to let good kids and ones with promise go far too quick without them even having chance to prove themselves.
I can’t think of any...
Forget what he's done and where he's at now, the fact is, he was the next big thing at Cas at 16/17/18 and let him down massively and thats a fact!
He might of been ripping it up on the academy, but the coaches obviously saw something not to put him in the first team. Poor attitude perhaps???
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Exactly. Most end up in the lower leaguesRonnieGibbs'forearm wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 19:35Can't think of one we have let go that has been regrettable and who have had successful careers.heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 18:37 You can't keep them all I suppose, however, we seem to let good kids and ones with promise go far too quick without them even having chance to prove themselves.
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Well it does make it true, because that's exactly what happened with him. As Old Cas Las above can also confirm. His dad didn't hold back on social media about the whole fiasco.Fumper27 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 21:35Putting “fact” doesn’t make it true!!!heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 21:04Just off the top of my head, Ryan Brierly. He was phenomenal as a kid and was outstanding in the academy, Cas kept promising him game time with pre season friendlies with the view to getting him experienced, as you can guess it never came off and he and his dad became disillusioned with the set up and looked else where.Fumper27 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 19:58Who, in your opinion, fits your narrative?heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 18:37 You can't keep them all I suppose, however, we seem to let good kids and ones with promise go far too quick without them even having chance to prove themselves.
I can’t think of any...
Forget what he's done and where he's at now, the fact is, he was the next big thing at Cas at 16/17/18 and let him down massively and thats a fact!
He might of been ripping it up on the academy, but the coaches obviously saw something not to put him in the first team. Poor attitude perhaps???
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Oh right.heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 22:12Well it does make it true, because that's exactly what happened with him. As Old Cas Las above can also confirm. His dad didn't hold back on social media about the whole fiasco.Fumper27 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 21:35Putting “fact” doesn’t make it true!!!heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 21:04Just off the top of my head, Ryan Brierly. He was phenomenal as a kid and was outstanding in the academy, Cas kept promising him game time with pre season friendlies with the view to getting him experienced, as you can guess it never came off and he and his dad became disillusioned with the set up and looked else where.Fumper27 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 19:58Who, in your opinion, fits your narrative?heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 18:37 You can't keep them all I suppose, however, we seem to let good kids and ones with promise go far too quick without them even having chance to prove themselves.
I can’t think of any...
Forget what he's done and where he's at now, the fact is, he was the next big thing at Cas at 16/17/18 and let him down massively and thats a fact!
He might of been ripping it up on the academy, but the coaches obviously saw something not to put him in the first team. Poor attitude perhaps???
So because OCL and Ryan Brierley’s dad posted about it on social media, that makes it true???
Have you been drinking tonight by any chance???
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Brierley was not seen as good enough by Matterson. Brierley has had several SL clubs since. He has not really made it has he?
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I watched loads of U19’s when Brierley was playing & I never thought he’d do anything to be honest. Classic example of being all pace & not much else - easy to see why people rated him highly though, particularly when watching a highlight reel - see mclelland. Cain Southerwood was the standout player by far at that time for me & he never kicked on, great shame as he was exceptional in my opinion (though I accept we all look for, & see different things).
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Very few of the young players that moved on have come back to embarass us.
Roger Milward was one.
Circumstances at the time dictated he wasn't in front of Hardisty and Heppy.
There may be others, but not many
There's a load of players who didn't make it.
Brierley, a perfect example.
Roger Milward was one.
Circumstances at the time dictated he wasn't in front of Hardisty and Heppy.
There may be others, but not many
There's a load of players who didn't make it.
Brierley, a perfect example.
I remember Peter Small
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I was part of the 20's set up in 2011 when Ryan came up from the 18's, so I feel I'm pretty qualified to comment on how he was treat thankyou very much.Fumper27 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 22:17Oh right.heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 22:12Well it does make it true, because that's exactly what happened with him. As Old Cas Las above can also confirm. His dad didn't hold back on social media about the whole fiasco.Fumper27 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 21:35Putting “fact” doesn’t make it true!!!heritage1926 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 21:04Just off the top of my head, Ryan Brierly. He was phenomenal as a kid and was outstanding in the academy, Cas kept promising him game time with pre season friendlies with the view to getting him experienced, as you can guess it never came off and he and his dad became disillusioned with the set up and looked else where.
Forget what he's done and where he's at now, the fact is, he was the next big thing at Cas at 16/17/18 and let him down massively and thats a fact!
He might of been ripping it up on the academy, but the coaches obviously saw something not to put him in the first team. Poor attitude perhaps???
So because OCL and Ryan Brierley’s dad posted about it on social media, that makes it true???
Have you been drinking tonight by any chance???
He played in a friendly against York and played well. He was promised the world by Cas and was let down massively. He got disillusioned and jumped at the chance to sign with Leigh.
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But it still turned out we didn't make the wrong decision not to fight to keep him. He wasn't some world beater as was suggested.
If the club broke promises then that is poor. But I don't imagine Cas are the only club in sports to have disgruntled young players with negative stories about how they were dealt with.
End of the day Brierley wasn't a superstar who we made a mistake with.
If the club broke promises then that is poor. But I don't imagine Cas are the only club in sports to have disgruntled young players with negative stories about how they were dealt with.
End of the day Brierley wasn't a superstar who we made a mistake with.
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i watched Saints yesterday a load of you lads in were do they get them from every one as the size of a first teamer young Doyle we have let go is a very good finisher but no size for a super league player Brad Graham i though this lad would make it
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