Gareth O'Brien signing

[gateman]

the lad as been a great asset good of the club in trying to hold on to him

[MrRugby123]

Sign the man up, I think he’s better than one of our current 6/7 and hopefully it would give him a kick up the backside.

[old cas lass]

Sign the man up, I think he’s better than one of our current 6/7 and hopefully it would give him a kick up the backside.

Looks to me like we want to sign him, seem GOB is the one who’s stalling.
I take it he’d get a better pay packet at Toronto than with us.
Beggars can’t be choosers garath.
The Toronto business could go on for a while yet.
We need players signed up now for next year.
We need to give him a time scale, because if Toronto do get back we would have to start searching from scratch for another player to cover halfs/fullback.

[TonyM]

Good Luck to the guy.
Earn't himself a contract in my eyes and brings a little maturing to the pivotal rolls.
Tony

[tigerfeat]

Sign the man up, I think he’s better than one of our current 6/7 and hopefully it would give him a kick up the backside.

Looks to me like we want to sign him, seem GOB is the one who’s stalling.
I take it he’d get a better pay packet at Toronto than with us.
Beggars can’t be choosers garath.
The Toronto business could go on for a while yet.
We need players signed up now for next year.
We need to give him a time scale, because if Toronto do get back we would have to start searching from scratch for another player to cover halfs/fullback.

It says in the League Express he's contractually required to stay with Toronto if they come back in
I thought all there players were free to find new clubs ...obviously not

[stevieblunder]

Agree with previous posts.
He would be a good signing.
An excellent utility back.
A good fit in terms of skill and more importantly Powell has rated him as a player who will fit into our system and squad ethos.

Drawback is we can't wait forever whilst he makes his mind up.

Hope we give him a deadline and if necessary move on.
I'm sure Powell has other players under the radar if things don't work out.

[on side]

This signing only makes me more confinced rumours Trueman off to wire for money to help club through coronavirus situation. Bit older then Trueman but if can get over 100 thousand for Trueman and no transfer fee for obrien probaly good thing to help to keep club financially stable bit longer. Trueman not really being any thing but Bob standard and Highley over rated in my opinion. Obrien would do simalar job at halfs

[nottinghamtiger]

Sign the man up, I think he’s better than one of our current 6/7 and hopefully it would give him a kick up the backside.

Looks to me like we want to sign him, seem GOB is the one who’s stalling.
I take it he’d get a better pay packet at Toronto than with us.
Beggars can’t be choosers garath.
The Toronto business could go on for a while yet.
We need players signed up now for next year.
We need to give him a time scale, because if Toronto do get back we would have to start searching from scratch for another player to cover halfs/fullback.

It says in the League Express he's contractually required to stay with Toronto if they come back in
I thought all there players were free to find new clubs ...obviously not

As soon as Toronto failed to pay their employees, they became free to seek employment elsewhere. They didn’t need Toronto’s permission; the club just tried to look like they were doing the right thing by their players, when in fact they decided not to pay them the money that they were entitled to.

Toronto have then tried to blackmail the players into not signing elsewhere beyond 2020 by suggesting that they will pay any wages that they were not paid this season. Essentially, they have told their players that if they sign elsewhere for next year, they won’t be getting the money they are entitled to for 2020. It’s devious, underhand and morally unfair.

The players’ union, led by Carvell, have utterly failed their players too. Rather than simply demanding that the players receive the money they are entitled to, they’ve actually sided with the club and tried to persuade SL members to re-admit Toronto on the basis that only then will the players get paid.

The Toronto club are morally bankrupt. They refused to pay their players. They stopped paying players’ rent. They refused to pay air travel for players who were entitled to it as art of their contract. They signed players and then just never paid them, preventing them from joining other clubs. They refused to fulfil contracts with suppliers, leaving small (and large) business unpaid for services that had been provided to the club.
Then they have tried to blackmail players into returning in 2021 by offering them the money that they refused to give them in 2020. There’s even an element of modern slavery here - ‘work for us and we’ll give you what we already owe you’.
If I was an RL player, I wouldn’t go anywhere near them if I could find a contract elsewhere. The more worrying thing is that the other SL clubs are considering letting them back in, given the damage they have already caused to the game as a whole and to those players who were abandoned by the club and left to face financial and social difficulties.

[tigerfeat]

Sign the man up, I think he’s better than one of our current 6/7 and hopefully it would give him a kick up the backside.

Looks to me like we want to sign him, seem GOB is the one who’s stalling.
I take it he’d get a better pay packet at Toronto than with us.
Beggars can’t be choosers garath.
The Toronto business could go on for a while yet.
We need players signed up now for next year.
We need to give him a time scale, because if Toronto do get back we would have to start searching from scratch for another player to cover halfs/fullback.

It says in the League Express he's contractually required to stay with Toronto if they come back in
I thought all there players were free to find new clubs ...obviously not

As soon as Toronto failed to pay their employees, they became free to seek employment elsewhere. They didn’t need Toronto’s permission; the club just tried to look like they were doing the right thing by their players, when in fact they decided not to pay them the money that they were entitled to.

Toronto have then tried to blackmail the players into not signing elsewhere beyond 2020 by suggesting that they will pay any wages that they were not paid this season. Essentially, they have told their players that if they sign elsewhere for next year, they won’t be getting the money they are entitled to for 2020. It’s devious, underhand and morally unfair.

The players’ union, led by Carvell, have utterly failed their players too. Rather than simply demanding that the players receive the money they are entitled to, they’ve actually sided with the club and tried to persuade SL members to re-admit Toronto on the basis that only then will the players get paid.

The Toronto club are morally bankrupt. They refused to pay their players. They stopped paying players’ rent. They refused to pay air travel for players who were entitled to it as art of their contract. They signed players and then just never paid them, preventing them from joining other clubs. They refused to fulfil contracts with suppliers, leaving small (and large) business unpaid for services that had been provided to the club.
Then they have tried to blackmail players into returning in 2021 by offering them the money that they refused to give them in 2020. There’s even an element of modern slavery here - ‘work for us and we’ll give you what we already owe you’.
If I was an RL player, I wouldn’t go anywhere near them if I could find a contract elsewhere. The more worrying thing is that the other SL clubs are considering letting them back in, given the damage they have already caused to the game as a whole and to those players who were abandoned by the club and left to face financial and social difficulties.

Thanks Notts I didn't know all that was going on ,it would be a disgrace if Toronto are allowed back in can't see it myself but the RL have done dafter things tbf

[nottinghamtiger]

Sign the man up, I think he’s better than one of our current 6/7 and hopefully it would give him a kick up the backside.

Looks to me like we want to sign him, seem GOB is the one who’s stalling.
I take it he’d get a better pay packet at Toronto than with us.
Beggars can’t be choosers garath.
The Toronto business could go on for a while yet.
We need players signed up now for next year.
We need to give him a time scale, because if Toronto do get back we would have to start searching from scratch for another player to cover halfs/fullback.

It says in the League Express he's contractually required to stay with Toronto if they come back in
I thought all there players were free to find new clubs ...obviously not

As soon as Toronto failed to pay their employees, they became free to seek employment elsewhere. They didn’t need Toronto’s permission; the club just tried to look like they were doing the right thing by their players, when in fact they decided not to pay them the money that they were entitled to.

Toronto have then tried to blackmail the players into not signing elsewhere beyond 2020 by suggesting that they will pay any wages that they were not paid this season. Essentially, they have told their players that if they sign elsewhere for next year, they won’t be getting the money they are entitled to for 2020. It’s devious, underhand and morally unfair.

The players’ union, led by Carvell, have utterly failed their players too. Rather than simply demanding that the players receive the money they are entitled to, they’ve actually sided with the club and tried to persuade SL members to re-admit Toronto on the basis that only then will the players get paid.

The Toronto club are morally bankrupt. They refused to pay their players. They stopped paying players’ rent. They refused to pay air travel for players who were entitled to it as art of their contract. They signed players and then just never paid them, preventing them from joining other clubs. They refused to fulfil contracts with suppliers, leaving small (and large) business unpaid for services that had been provided to the club.
Then they have tried to blackmail players into returning in 2021 by offering them the money that they refused to give them in 2020. There’s even an element of modern slavery here - ‘work for us and we’ll give you what we already owe you’.
If I was an RL player, I wouldn’t go anywhere near them if I could find a contract elsewhere. The more worrying thing is that the other SL clubs are considering letting them back in, given the damage they have already caused to the game as a whole and to those players who were abandoned by the club and left to face financial and social difficulties.

Thanks Notts I didn't know all that was going on ,it would be a disgrace if Toronto are allowed back in can't see it myself but the RL have done dafter things tbf

It’s Toronto’s main argument for re-admission; ‘let us back in and we pinky promise to pay all the players the money that we should have already paid them’.
Anyone who falls for it is a fool. Those payments should be made before the other clubs even consider allowing them to re-join, not be part of the negotiation process.

[heritage1926]

Would love to keep him and I've heard he's pretty keen on staying with us too. Playing his best rugby to boot. If he became a free agent, there would be a fair few clubs in for him, on his current form.

[Flat Capper]

Whilst I know he has ability, I wonder if his current form is a result of his need to find a decent contract next season?

As said above, other clubs will have noticed his form and although budgets are tight, it could become an auction, one we are not likely to win

[old cas lass]

Maybe get the contract signed, but if Toronto gets reinstated then rip the contract up.
Only thing there is time wasted when we should be getting players signed now for next year.
Can’t wait forever .

[LeagueLeaders]

As said above, other clubs will have noticed his form and although budgets are tight, it could become an auction, one we are not likely to win

If he hasn't got a contract with Toronto then ultimately it is up to the player where he goes and I would rather stay with a team where I am performing than chance it with another one. However I would also want a first team spot which he might not get next year. Definitely a tough decision for him

[orrsome]

As said above, other clubs will have noticed his form and although budgets are tight, it could become an auction, one we are not likely to win

If he hasn't got a contract with Toronto then ultimately it is up to the player where he goes and I would rather stay with a team where I am performing than chance it with another one. However I would also want a first team spot which he might not get next year. Definitely a tough decision for him

Could he play centre?
Maybe replacement for Shenton?

[LeagueLeaders]

Could he play centre?
Maybe replacement for Shenton?

Would definitely take him over Shenton at centre and have him as great cover whenever we need at half or fullback but again would he stay at a club to be played out of position when he could walk in elsewhere? Hopefully he would though

[on side]

As said above, other clubs will have noticed his form and although budgets are tight, it could become an auction, one we are not likely to win

If he hasn't got a contract with Toronto then ultimately it is up to the player where he goes and I would rather stay with a team where I am performing than chance it with another one. However I would also want a first team spot which he might not get next year. Definitely a tough decision for him

Could he play centre?
Maybe replacement for Shenton?

No way centre that's plugging a round hole with square shape again need to sign a proper centre

[Al letuknow1]

Agree, we need a specialist centre.

[tigerfeat]

If we've made him a offer of a contract DP will have a plan no chance he will be a back up player I wouldn't have thought

[Tigers1926]

If my memory serves me well, Toronto's players we're told to look for another club so even if they get reinstated it should be Toronto looking for players and not the players being blackmailed to go back to Toronto for monies owed. As for GOB himself, he's really put a marker down with some of the displays in a Cas shirt. Hope he stays. COYF