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Re: ITS BACK

Post by Flat Capper » 29 Jun 2020, 12:24

nottinghamtiger wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 12:17
Flat Capper wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 12:13 There are differences in the size of our pitch and other, more modern stadia which will impact us in two ways. We are at a disadvantage when playing at other grounds and we lose the impact on other teams visiting us.

In addition, if we utilise the crown noise during games, it seems to me that, in football, the home sides have crowd noise of thier home supporters. So whilst there may be 'no crowd', there may still be an advantage those clubs that can host games?

Of course, this is better than nothing but worth noting nonetheless..
The crowd noise is added for the TV viewers - you can’t hear it at the stadium!
I must admit I don't follow goofball and have only seen a couple of short sectoins of live games following its return but there did appear to be an obvious home bias on what I could hear. If the sound is purely for TV audience, there doesn't seem to be a reason for home bias but there we go.
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Post by TT Tiger » 29 Jun 2020, 12:25

Leeds Utd has the crowd noise played through the PA system and trained with it on there captains run to get a feel for it.

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Post by nottinghamtiger » 29 Jun 2020, 12:31

TT Tiger wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 12:25 Leeds Utd has the crowd noise played through the PA system and trained with it on there captains run to get a feel for it.
I didn’t know that. The games I have seen have given a choice between watching with crowd noise added or not.

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Post by Flat Capper » 29 Jun 2020, 15:48

nottinghamtiger wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 12:31
TT Tiger wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 12:25 Leeds Utd has the crowd noise played through the PA system and trained with it on there captains run to get a feel for it.
I didn’t know that. The games I have seen have given a choice between watching with crowd noise added or not.
Thanks TT.. Seems ignorance on the subject is widespread.

On the home advantage subject overall, tell me a player that claims to prefer playing away from home and I'll show you a liar.
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Post by gateman » 29 Jun 2020, 21:08

will the full fixture list come out or will they plan for a month or two leaving some games hoping the fans will be allowed to attend ??

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Post by mart0042 » 30 Jun 2020, 11:11

Personally, there should be 2 grounds in Yorkshire and 2 in the other side of the pennines available for these matches. No team should play at home. Leeds could play their home matches at Huddersfield and Huddersfield at Leeds.

Leeds playing at home all the time and the ability to gain revenue from its corporate (technically they can do as bars and 0restaurants open though not giving a match ticket option) isn't fair.

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Post by Tamworth Tiger » 30 Jun 2020, 13:00

mart0042 wrote: 30 Jun 2020, 11:11 Personally, there should be 2 grounds in Yorkshire and 2 in the other side of the pennines available for these matches. No team should play at home. Leeds could play their home matches at Huddersfield and Huddersfield at Leeds.

Leeds playing at home all the time and the ability to gain revenue from its corporate (technically they can do as bars and 0restaurants open though not giving a match ticket option) isn't fair.
They should at least make them get changed in the Away dressing room 😄

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Post by Mysterio » 30 Jun 2020, 13:30

mart0042 wrote: 30 Jun 2020, 11:11 Personally, there should be 2 grounds in Yorkshire and 2 in the other side of the pennines available for these matches. No team should play at home. Leeds could play their home matches at Huddersfield and Huddersfield at Leeds.

Leeds playing at home all the time and the ability to gain revenue from its corporate (technically they can do as bars and 0restaurants open though not giving a match ticket option) isn't fair.
I’m fully behind this train of thought.

It would be grossly unfair for Leeds to play all of their remaining games at Headingley.
Especially given corporate/ boxes etc. In fact it would be disgusting.

They shouldn’t be allowed to play at Headingley whatsoever, just like none of the other teams.

In my opinion...

Which are the proposed grounds ?
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Post by nottinghamtiger » 30 Jun 2020, 16:29

It won’t be back if we aren’t careful.
Photos of Wigan players all together, indoors in the gym and all stood next to each other.
Lucky they aren’t footballers or the press would be all over them.

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Post by Squaddie86 » 30 Jun 2020, 17:50

For those talking about "unfair advantage" for 3 teams:

In the english football league, bundesliga, AFL and - most relevant to us: NRL, home advantage disappears without crowds:

https://theconversation.com/as-football ... ars-138685

https://www.espn.com/soccer/german-bund ... y-stadiums

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/ ... e/12311344

There is nothing special enough about Headingley that would buck this trend for Leeds. So lets calm down eh?

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Post by mart0042 » 01 Jul 2020, 14:11

I'm not sure anyone getting excited but it has to be a level playing field.

With Wigan football going into administration today, their ground may be available cheap.

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Post by Flat Capper » 01 Jul 2020, 16:36

Well who does actually own the Wigan ground?
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Post by tigerfeat » 01 Jul 2020, 16:46

Flat Capper wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:36 Well who does actually own the Wigan ground?
The administrators now
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Post by Fumper27 » 01 Jul 2020, 16:57

tigerfeat wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:46
Flat Capper wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:36 Well who does actually own the Wigan ground?
The administrators now
Not quite. The administrators control the assets primary and their goal is to use the company's assets to repay creditors as quickly and as fully as possible without preference.

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Post by tigerfeat » 01 Jul 2020, 18:28

Fumper27 wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:57
tigerfeat wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:46
Flat Capper wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:36 Well who does actually own the Wigan ground?
The administrators now
Not quite. The administrators control the assets primary and their goal is to use the company's assets to repay creditors as quickly and as fully as possible without preference.
Who owns the ground at this moment in time then
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Post by Fumper27 » 01 Jul 2020, 18:46

tigerfeat wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 18:28
Fumper27 wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:57
tigerfeat wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:46
Flat Capper wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:36 Well who does actually own the Wigan ground?
The administrators now
Not quite. The administrators control the assets primary and their goal is to use the company's assets to repay creditors as quickly and as fully as possible without preference.
Who owns the ground at this moment in time then
As per my earlier post, the administrators now “Control” the ground as an asset of the business. This stops the business selling this, or any other, assets and keeping the money. One of three things will now happen:

1) the company will be rescued (taken over)as a going concern
2) the creditors will agree a deal which sees them receive so much from every pound they’re owed (CVA). This will be more than if the company went into liquidation, as the creditors then get little to nothing back
3) sell assets to benefit one or more secured or preferential creditors.

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Post by Mysterio » 01 Jul 2020, 23:00

Squaddie86 wrote: 30 Jun 2020, 17:50 For those talking about "unfair advantage" for 3 teams:

In the english football league, bundesliga, AFL and - most relevant to us: NRL, home advantage disappears without crowds:

https://theconversation.com/as-football ... ars-138685

https://www.espn.com/soccer/german-bund ... y-stadiums

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/ ... e/12311344

There is nothing special enough about Headingley that would buck this trend for Leeds. So lets calm down eh?
Let’s calm down? 😂

Speak for yourself pal but not for me. Or anyone else
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Post by tigerfeat » 02 Jul 2020, 09:00

Fumper27 wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 18:46
tigerfeat wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 18:28
Fumper27 wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:57
tigerfeat wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:46
Flat Capper wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:36 Well who does actually own the Wigan ground?
The administrators now
Not quite. The administrators control the assets primary and their goal is to use the company's assets to repay creditors as quickly and as fully as possible without preference.
Who owns the ground at this moment in time then
As per my earlier post, the administrators now “Control” the ground as an asset of the business. This stops the business selling this, or any other, assets and keeping the money. One of three things will now happen:

1) the company will be rescued (taken over)as a going concern
2) the creditors will agree a deal which sees them receive so much from every pound they’re owed (CVA). This will be more than if the company went into liquidation, as the creditors then get little to nothing back
3) sell assets to benefit one or more secured or preferential creditors.
Seems to have been some strange goings on the new owners only bought the club four weeks ago after passing all the proper owner tests now theve put the club into administration
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Post by mart0042 » 02 Jul 2020, 11:24

I thought dave whelan, of dw fitness and shops owned the ground. The poor eaters much be able to get it cheap.

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Post by gateman » 02 Jul 2020, 13:52

We know the first week's fixtures when will the rest be announced? i cant wait for it to KO it will not be the same as watching the game live but anything is better than nothing

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