Momentum Rule Explained

[Mysterio]

Enlightening for some
Https://youtu.be/box08lq9ylg

[Lofthouse Tiger]

For me that proves it is clearly forward.

Do the rules not say the ball must go backwards? Well in all those examples it clearly doesn’t.

No such rule as “Momentum rule”’as the bald idiot Steve to bang on about on Sky.

These line markings clearly show the ball travels forward from where it is passed. How is it possible to say it went back?

[Mysterio]

This is what I am struggling to come to terms with.

The throwing the ball backwards over their head REALLY got me, as it’s blatantly thrown backwards, but it also travels forwards, so, where do we go with that?

It all came about looking into it for Blake Austin’s pass against us as I thought it could have gone either way.

I’d be interested in the coaching teams’ views on this video if anyone knows them.

[Fumper27]

How do you begin to explain a rule that doesn’t exist?

[The Firm]

It’s quite simple really. A forward pass is judged on the direction the ball is travelling immediately on release, not where the ball ends up.

[Jazzman]

It’s quite simple really. A forward pass is judged on the direction the ball is travelling immediately on release, not where the ball ends up.

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This.

The ball must be travelling backwards when it leaves the players hands.

[Fumper27]

But you’ve explained the forward pass rule, very eloquently as well but not the (non existent) momentum rule. As someone said, it was one of Stevo’s that he used to make himself sound clever.

[The Firm]

But you’ve explained the forward pass rule, very eloquently as well but not the (non existent) momentum rule. As someone said, it was one of Stevo’s that he used to make himself sound clever.

Correct, that ‘rule’ is load of balls.

[Flat Capper]

...The throwing the ball backwards over their head REALLY got me, as it’s blatantly thrown backwards, but it also travels forwards, so, where do we go with that..?

It's basically what Stevo attempted to explain with the term"momentum" rule. There is no rule as such, only laws of physics which some class as rules [of the natural world].

Basically, the player with the ball in hand creates momentum whilst running forward that it transfered to the ball. When he passes it in a backwards direction, it still contains enough momentum to move forward. All throwing sports use momentumn when releasing the projectile but as they [usually] throw it forward, it simply travels a little further than when releasing it from a standing position.

Hope that helps everyone?

[scottiger]

Throw something backwards out of a car window travelling 70 . It will end up 100m infront of the place you chucked it. Not hard to understand but some find it difficult.

[TT Tiger]

Throw something backwards out of a car window travelling 70 . It will end up 100m infront of the place you chucked it. Not hard to understand but some find it difficult.

Laws of physics yes,
Laws of the game no.

[Flat Capper]

Throw something backwards out of a car window travelling 70 . It will end up 100m infront of the place you chucked it. Not hard to understand but some find it difficult.

Exactly

[cogito ergo sum]

......and still the south stand screamed “Forrad Pass” unless Leeds have the ball...You can take a horse to water and all that...

[Fumper27]

Throw something backwards out of a car window travelling 70 . It will end up 100m infront of the place you chucked it. Not hard to understand but some find it difficult.

Laws of physics yes,
Laws of the game no.

Bingo

[Mysterio]

So we’re agreed that balls that are caught well in front of where they were passed from arent forwards passes?

[cogito ergo sum]

So we’re agreed that balls that are caught well in front of where they were passed from arent forwards passes?

Case in point tonight, a long pass to Williams, open to opinion but similar to the one on the video earlier in this thread. Called forward but passer’s hands pointing backwards as ball leaves.

[Mysterio]

It’s the same with knock ons In a different way, maybe a grid system like the one used in this video could be used on a sky video ref decision for forward passing, and ANY drop ball is a knock on unless a foot got to it on the bounce.

[HuddsTigers]

The forward pass rule is my biggest bugbear in the game.

These videos are all well and good when players are running full pelt and make a straight pass. It is the law of physics. But I also think players know this and can get away with it.

Half the time players aren't running fast enough and the force they use for the pass should be enough for them do it backwards.

For me, we need to put the onus on players to pass backwards and rule any pass forward as such, and same for flat passes. Even if that means changing the angle of their run or body.

[Mysterio]

The forward pass rule is my biggest bugbear in the game.

These videos are all well and good when players are running full pelt and make a straight pass. It is the law of physics. But I also think players know this and can get away with it.

Half the time players aren't running fast enough and the force they use for the pass should be enough for them do it backwards.

For me, we need to put the onus on players to pass backwards and rule any pass forward as such, and same for flat passes. Even if that means changing the angle of their run or body.

Sky has, or can, develop the technology

[lurcher]

it was explained to me that the passers hands should be pointing backwards when the ball is released