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It’s certainly time for him to justify the hype (and presumably money) that he brought.
Forget what other teams have got out of him, lack of progression etc it’s what cas can get out of him? He’s probably be twice the player under Powell. Better than Ellis anyway, without been disrespectfulstevieblunder wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 17:13 If we did sign Brierley under any circumstances, I would be amazed.
Never has been Superleague standard and never will be.
Maybe suitable for Toronto.
If so, it's a statement about their chances of any success this year.
Brierley never played a competitive match for cas he only played a few friendlies under Millward if my memory serves me right.stevieblunder wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 18:28 Brierley failed at Cas first time round.
Seriously, has anyone seen a marked improvement since he left?
I don’t think anyone is suggesting he will come in and demand a spot in the first-choice 17. But if Ellis is gone, we need someone to fill his space in the squad.braytontiger wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 21:57 I cannot believe anyone can make a case to think that Ryan brierley could be a good signing.
He’s no longer a young player that can be improved regardless of how good of a coach DP is he’s not a magician. The lads had more clubs than tiger woods,played under numerous coaches at all levels of the game and not one as improved him.
I’d see absolutely 0 value in signing a player that in all likelihood would need us having a glut of injuries to see him get anywhere near our 17.
At the end of the day, if / when somebody comes in they ain't gonna be a world beater, there coming in to play 3rd or 4th choice half back.stevieblunder wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 22:42 Brierley is 28yrs old next March.
I think his 'promising youngster ' and
' needs developing ' days are far behind him.
Are all positive posts on him from family members.?
I’ve watched the lad and followed his career since he joined our club as a skinny 17 year old. He’s built his career on been an opportunist support player. I’ve never seen him take hold of a game and take a team around the park. There is a reason why clubs keep moving him on and it’s probably because he can’t fit into a structured role if he could of he’d have been the next Danny McGuire.nottinghamtiger wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 22:39I don’t think anyone is suggesting he will come in and demand a spot in the first-choice 17. But if Ellis is gone, we need someone to fill his space in the squad.braytontiger wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 21:57 I cannot believe anyone can make a case to think that Ryan brierley could be a good signing.
He’s no longer a young player that can be improved regardless of how good of a coach DP is he’s not a magician. The lads had more clubs than tiger woods,played under numerous coaches at all levels of the game and not one as improved him.
I’d see absolutely 0 value in signing a player that in all likelihood would need us having a glut of injuries to see him get anywhere near our 17.
As for your argument that he is too old to improve, let’s remember how old Luke Gale was before he started playing at his best. He scraped around the lower leagues, played in relegated teams (both London and Bradford) before coming to Cas and improving under Powell. Likewise, I’d suggest Luke Dorn was at his best in his second spell at the club. Sometimes, all it takes is a marginal gain and, more importantly, playing in a team and structure that suits the attributes of the player, for things to come together and make a previously average player look like a good one.
Maybe, but I’m willing to give him a shot if he comes on a short-term contract and doesn’t take up much of the cap.braytontiger wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 22:58I’ve watched the lad and followed his career since he joined our club as a skinny 17 year old. He’s built his career on been an opportunist support player. I’ve never seen him take hold of a game and take a team around the park. There is a reason why clubs keep moving him on and it’s probably because he can’t fit into a structured role if he could of he’d have been the next Danny McGuire.nottinghamtiger wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 22:39I don’t think anyone is suggesting he will come in and demand a spot in the first-choice 17. But if Ellis is gone, we need someone to fill his space in the squad.braytontiger wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 21:57 I cannot believe anyone can make a case to think that Ryan brierley could be a good signing.
He’s no longer a young player that can be improved regardless of how good of a coach DP is he’s not a magician. The lads had more clubs than tiger woods,played under numerous coaches at all levels of the game and not one as improved him.
I’d see absolutely 0 value in signing a player that in all likelihood would need us having a glut of injuries to see him get anywhere near our 17.
As for your argument that he is too old to improve, let’s remember how old Luke Gale was before he started playing at his best. He scraped around the lower leagues, played in relegated teams (both London and Bradford) before coming to Cas and improving under Powell. Likewise, I’d suggest Luke Dorn was at his best in his second spell at the club. Sometimes, all it takes is a marginal gain and, more importantly, playing in a team and structure that suits the attributes of the player, for things to come together and make a previously average player look like a good one.
not often (if ever) i disagree with you brayton mate but i do on this. i too watched the skinny 17 year old and whilst he was a good support player his main attribute for me was his organisational skills. if you watched him closely he was setting moves up 3 plays in advance and was quite brilliant at it. trouble was when he was given a chance with the 1st team it would be half a game on the wing which didn't do him any favours. you will know as well as i do that at this time daz clark was in the same team and myself and a lot of ex cas players thought brierly was the best prospect. i was gutted to see him go and fair enough it looks like he made the wrong moves but i think under powell he could still make an impression in super league.braytontiger wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 22:58I’ve watched the lad and followed his career since he joined our club as a skinny 17 year old. He’s built his career on been an opportunist support player. I’ve never seen him take hold of a game and take a team around the park. There is a reason why clubs keep moving him on and it’s probably because he can’t fit into a structured role if he could of he’d have been the next Danny McGuire.nottinghamtiger wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 22:39I don’t think anyone is suggesting he will come in and demand a spot in the first-choice 17. But if Ellis is gone, we need someone to fill his space in the squad.braytontiger wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 21:57 I cannot believe anyone can make a case to think that Ryan brierley could be a good signing.
He’s no longer a young player that can be improved regardless of how good of a coach DP is he’s not a magician. The lads had more clubs than tiger woods,played under numerous coaches at all levels of the game and not one as improved him.
I’d see absolutely 0 value in signing a player that in all likelihood would need us having a glut of injuries to see him get anywhere near our 17.
As for your argument that he is too old to improve, let’s remember how old Luke Gale was before he started playing at his best. He scraped around the lower leagues, played in relegated teams (both London and Bradford) before coming to Cas and improving under Powell. Likewise, I’d suggest Luke Dorn was at his best in his second spell at the club. Sometimes, all it takes is a marginal gain and, more importantly, playing in a team and structure that suits the attributes of the player, for things to come together and make a previously average player look like a good one.
Hey it’s all about opinions and I respect other views. It was a cracking U19s team we had then and as it’s turned out it’s produced some quality players at both super league and championship.lurcher wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 00:29not often (if ever) i disagree with you brayton mate but i do on this. i too watched the skinny 17 year old and whilst he was a good support player his main attribute for me was his organisational skills. if you watched him closely he was setting moves up 3 plays in advance and was quite brilliant at it. trouble was when he was given a chance with the 1st team it would be half a game on the wing which didn't do him any favours. you will know as well as i do that at this time daz clark was in the same team and myself and a lot of ex cas players thought brierly was the best prospect. i was gutted to see him go and fair enough it looks like he made the wrong moves but i think under powell he could still make an impression in super league.braytontiger wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 22:58I’ve watched the lad and followed his career since he joined our club as a skinny 17 year old. He’s built his career on been an opportunist support player. I’ve never seen him take hold of a game and take a team around the park. There is a reason why clubs keep moving him on and it’s probably because he can’t fit into a structured role if he could of he’d have been the next Danny McGuire.nottinghamtiger wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 22:39I don’t think anyone is suggesting he will come in and demand a spot in the first-choice 17. But if Ellis is gone, we need someone to fill his space in the squad.braytontiger wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 21:57 I cannot believe anyone can make a case to think that Ryan brierley could be a good signing.
He’s no longer a young player that can be improved regardless of how good of a coach DP is he’s not a magician. The lads had more clubs than tiger woods,played under numerous coaches at all levels of the game and not one as improved him.
I’d see absolutely 0 value in signing a player that in all likelihood would need us having a glut of injuries to see him get anywhere near our 17.
As for your argument that he is too old to improve, let’s remember how old Luke Gale was before he started playing at his best. He scraped around the lower leagues, played in relegated teams (both London and Bradford) before coming to Cas and improving under Powell. Likewise, I’d suggest Luke Dorn was at his best in his second spell at the club. Sometimes, all it takes is a marginal gain and, more importantly, playing in a team and structure that suits the attributes of the player, for things to come together and make a previously average player look like a good one.