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Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 11:18
by Mysterio
How long is he under contract and what is his age. I think he’ll stay with us until at least 24.

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 11:21
by tigerfeat
There are a lot of good young half backs in the nrl as there are wingers i was surprised canberra went for williams tho they have done well with there signings from super league

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 18:41
by Tamworth Tiger
mart0042 wrote: 29 Oct 2019, 11:04 Truey isn't a cas lad, so would be expected not to have his heart rule his head. So loyalty isn't a given.

If he went anywhere, then oz is the place for the money and the lifestyle. If we can keep him under contract at we at least get a fee in the future.
Can’t think of many top rated Cas lads who have let their heart rule their heads in recent years, e.g. Clark, Westerman, Shenton, Orr, Huby although some of them had good reasons
I’m possibly wrong about Milner if it wasn’t just
agents games, and Watts this year but he’s already had many years elsewhere. Holmes is a one club man who has made the international squad. Have I missed anyone?

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 14:24
by mart0042
Westerman and Clark didn't want to go but one paid for the planning permission for the not built in ground near xscape and one staved off administration.
Shenton and Orr needed a new challenge and got a higher wage.
Huby fell out with the club over a testimonial, so was said.

Some would happily spend their entire careers at Cas but sportsmen tend to be competitive and if Cas aren't, some will move on.

I'm sure watts and truey will receive offers over the next year or 2, though I'd suggest it'd be easier to keep watts who has seen it at other clubs and might prefer to stay close to his family.

Also looking at the stick some give massey, if he could play elsewhere on more money and away from his detractors he might be tempted.

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 14:48
by Squaddie86
Anyone who thinks there's such a thing as loyalty in modern sports needs to give their heads a wobble.

Players careers are short and they'll persue the best money and working conditions they can.

That means that a player, any player, will sign for any club that offers:

1. The best money.
2. The best facilities and coaches.
3. The best chance at trophies.
4. The best chance to earn an even bigger contract in future.

Players may well accept less money short term if they know that it'll put them on the map in future, or they'll have access to coaching and facilities that mean they'll be looked after and enjoy going to work.

But ultimately loyalty to a badge? Not a chance. Badges don't put food on tables.

Right now players joining Cas are joining a team with excellent coaches, and a strong chance that playing well will be rewarded with bigger contracts, either here or elsewhere.

To ensure that talent continues to want to come to Castleford, we need better facilities and to mount serious challenges for trophies in coming years.

Relying on the loyalty of local boys won't cut it.

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 22:33
by Tamworth Tiger
Squaddie86 wrote: 30 Oct 2019, 14:48 Anyone who thinks there's such a thing as loyalty in modern sports needs to give their heads a wobble.

Players careers are short and they'll persue the best money and working conditions they can.

That means that a player, any player, will sign for any club that offers:

1. The best money.
2. The best facilities and coaches.
3. The best chance at trophies.
4. The best chance to earn an even bigger contract in future.

Players may well accept less money short term if they know that it'll put them on the map in future, or they'll have access to coaching and facilities that mean they'll be looked after and enjoy going to work.

But ultimately loyalty to a badge? Not a chance. Badges don't put food on tables.

Right now players joining Cas are joining a team with excellent coaches, and a strong chance that playing well will be rewarded with bigger contracts, either here or elsewhere.

To ensure that talent continues to want to come to Castleford, we need better facilities and to mount serious challenges for trophies in coming years.

Relying on the loyalty of local boys won't cut it.
Absolutely and that’s how it should be for guys with short careers than can end abruptly ( e.g. Sam Burgess) and many with not a lot of prospects when they finish.

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 09:07
by gateman
players will always move on the pay being the main attraction, these lads have to plan for when their playing days are over, in the 70S + 80S running a pub seamed to be there main occupation, when playing days are over. now some have financial advisers who look after their interests property is were some have put their money into. a thing the club can do is keep an eye on the backroom staff and make sure every one from top to bottom are earning the salary they are paid

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 10:54
by mart0042
Squaddie86 wrote: 30 Oct 2019, 14:48 Anyone who thinks there's such a thing as loyalty in modern sports needs to give their heads a wobble.

Players careers are short and they'll persue the best money and working conditions they can.

That means that a player, any player, will sign for any club that offers:

1. The best money.
2. The best facilities and coaches.
3. The best chance at trophies.
4. The best chance to earn an even bigger contract in future.

Players may well accept less money short term if they know that it'll put them on the map in future, or they'll have access to coaching and facilities that mean they'll be looked after and enjoy going to work.

But ultimately loyalty to a badge? Not a chance. Badges don't put food on tables.

Right now players joining Cas are joining a team with excellent coaches, and a strong chance that playing well will be rewarded with bigger contracts, either here or elsewhere.

To ensure that talent continues to want to come to Castleford, we need better facilities and to mount serious challenges for trophies in coming years.

Relying on the loyalty of local boys won't cut it.
Spot on.

We have all the ducks lined up apart from the facilities, which is due to be addressed when we move to the new ground. Unfortunately we can't do the facilities until the new ground is up and running.

Players can see a reason for coming to Cas, a few have got international chances because of our club. Gale was the obvious one, championship player to shoe in 7 for his country and man of steel. ( I know it takes him to work hard and him to buy into it but he wouldn't have done it with Bradford or London)

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 11:01
by mart0042
mart0042 wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 10:54
Squaddie86 wrote: 30 Oct 2019, 14:48 Anyone who thinks there's such a thing as loyalty in modern sports needs to give their heads a wobble.

Players careers are short and they'll persue the best money and working conditions they can.

That means that a player, any player, will sign for any club that offers:

1. The best money.
2. The best facilities and coaches.
3. The best chance at trophies.
4. The best chance to earn an even bigger contract in future.

Players may well accept less money short term if they know that it'll put them on the map in future, or they'll have access to coaching and facilities that mean they'll be looked after and enjoy going to work.

But ultimately loyalty to a badge? Not a chance. Badges don't put food on tables.

Right now players joining Cas are joining a team with excellent coaches, and a strong chance that playing well will be rewarded with bigger contracts, either here or elsewhere.

To ensure that talent continues to want to come to Castleford, we need better facilities and to mount serious challenges for trophies in coming years.

Relying on the loyalty of local boys won't cut it.
Spot on.

We have all the ducks lined up apart from the facilities, which is due to be addressed when we move to the new ground. Unfortunately we can't do the facilities until the new ground is up and running.

Players can see a reason for coming to Cas, a few have got international chances because of our club. Gale was the obvious one, championship player to shoe in 7 for his country and man of steel. ( I know it takes him to work hard and him to buy into it but he wouldn't have done it with Bradford or London)

Leeds used to have a rigid pay structure as they had the best facilities and would be fighting for every bit of silverware. However they've smashed the pay structure that much they broke the cap and have 2 marquee players and at least gale on big money. They are panick signing and paying fees for players.

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 05 Nov 2019, 15:53
by Nobody
Banter or does Minns knows something rest of us don't?
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Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 05 Nov 2019, 16:50
by braytontiger
Nobody wrote: 05 Nov 2019, 15:53 Banter or does Minns knows something rest of us don't?

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Minns as been getting a bit of stick over the extra pounds he’s carrying. Doubt there is any more in it fev are more than covered in the halves

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 13 Nov 2019, 16:05
by gateman
reported in the rumour column in love rugby league he is on his way to Leigh

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 13 Nov 2019, 18:23
by Jonny1975
Love Rugby League are just forum surfers, if I read in their column it was dark outside, I'd still go and check. Lazy journalism with no substance to most of there articles.

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 15 Nov 2019, 10:46
by mart0042
Was Ellis at training this week. Haven't seen all the photos. That's always a nod towards wants happening especially when it only 2 long term injured, junior and fozzie are there.

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 15 Nov 2019, 12:20
by Burratha
mart0042 wrote: 15 Nov 2019, 10:46 Was Ellis at training this week. Haven't seen all the photos. That's always a nod towards wants happening especially when it only 2 long term injured, junior and fozzie are there.
He was at day 1 of pre-season (see attached pic)

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 18 Nov 2019, 10:55
by mart0042
Burratha wrote: 15 Nov 2019, 12:20
mart0042 wrote: 15 Nov 2019, 10:46 Was Ellis at training this week. Haven't seen all the photos. That's always a nod towards wants happening especially when it only 2 long term injured, junior and fozzie are there.
He was at day 1 of pre-season (see attached pic)
That's good news, no more meddling. A settled squad ready to train.

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 18 Nov 2019, 14:52
by jackknife
Love rugby stil saying he could be going to leigh should of been sorted a month ago so we had a replacement

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 18 Nov 2019, 15:56
by Fumper27
jackknife wrote: 18 Nov 2019, 14:52 Love rugby stil saying he could be going to leigh should of been sorted a month ago so we had a replacement
Or Love Rugby could be telling fibs so we wouldn’t need a replacement???

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 01 Dec 2019, 21:36
by Bring it on
Come up on my twitter feed hull kr are in talks to sigh Jamie..

Re: Jamie Ellis

Posted: 01 Dec 2019, 21:38
by Mucky1978
Ryan Brierley coming to Cas