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Re: Jamie Ellis

Post by Nobody » 25 Oct 2019, 20:06

stevieblunder wrote: 25 Oct 2019, 18:17 Can't believe the
' Bring back Brierley' sentiment on this forum.
He wasn't nearly good enough first time round.
He hasn't improved his game in any match I have seen.
He's no longer a promising 19yr old.
All the clubs he's been to in the Superleague have got rid.
For my money, Toronto will move him on .
He'll be a like for like swap for Jamie Ellis then in that case. I only asked a question I couldn't give a monkey's of we don't sign him. Let's be sensible if Jamie does go, what do you want as a third or fourth choice half? We're not going to sign a world beater.
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Re: Jamie Ellis

Post by jackknife » 26 Oct 2019, 05:45

Ryan Brierley is garbage the lads nowhere near super league quality, i mean hes only score 184 tries 131 goals in 199 games on those stats he'll be lucky to get another club in championship and hes way to old now at 27
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Post by Juscas » 26 Oct 2019, 08:40

Brierley has found his level at championship and should stay there

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Post by Dixie D » 26 Oct 2019, 16:57

jackknife wrote: 26 Oct 2019, 05:45 Ryan Brierley is garbage the lads nowhere near super league quality, i mean hes only score 184 tries 131 goals in 199 games on those stats he'll be lucky to get another club in championship and hes way to old now at 27
My sarcasm senses are tingling

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Post by daytona » 27 Oct 2019, 08:50

Gets a lot of stick does poor old Jamie, but just remember in the 2018 season which was also injury ravaged for us, he was the lead half for most of the season and we finished 3rd. I’d stick with him as a back up half personally. He can do a job and we won’t get anyone better as a back up player unless there is a young kid from the 19s going to burst on the scene. (Which there isn’t)

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Post by mart0042 » 28 Oct 2019, 11:13

daytona wrote: 27 Oct 2019, 08:50 Gets a lot of stick does poor old Jamie, but just remember in the 2018 season which was also injury ravaged for us, he was the lead half for most of the season and we finished 3rd. I’d stick with him as a back up half personally. He can do a job and we won’t get anyone better as a back up player unless there is a young kid from the 19s going to burst on the scene. (Which there isn’t)
I agree, we need a halfback coming through.

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Post by heritage1926 » 28 Oct 2019, 11:27

mart0042 wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 11:13
daytona wrote: 27 Oct 2019, 08:50 Gets a lot of stick does poor old Jamie, but just remember in the 2018 season which was also injury ravaged for us, he was the lead half for most of the season and we finished 3rd. I’d stick with him as a back up half personally. He can do a job and we won’t get anyone better as a back up player unless there is a young kid from the 19s going to burst on the scene. (Which there isn’t)
I agree, we need a halfback coming through.
We have had half backs come through the club over the years, Brierly, Reynolds, McLelland are a couple that come to mind, but unfortunately, the lack of a reserves and strong competition, meant they had to look elsewhere.

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Post by mart0042 » 28 Oct 2019, 14:16

heritage1926 wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 11:27
mart0042 wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 11:13
daytona wrote: 27 Oct 2019, 08:50 Gets a lot of stick does poor old Jamie, but just remember in the 2018 season which was also injury ravaged for us, he was the lead half for most of the season and we finished 3rd. I’d stick with him as a back up half personally. He can do a job and we won’t get anyone better as a back up player unless there is a young kid from the 19s going to burst on the scene. (Which there isn’t)
I agree, we need a halfback coming through.
We have had half backs come through the club over the years, Brierly, Reynolds, McLelland are a couple that come to mind, but unfortunately, the lack of a reserves and strong competition, meant they had to look elsewhere.
And they've not been good enough. None of them would be our 3rd choice at the moment.

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Post by gateman » 28 Oct 2019, 15:14

its reported in love rugby league that Jamie is returning to Leigh for next season

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Post by heritage1926 » 28 Oct 2019, 15:21

mart0042 wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 14:16
heritage1926 wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 11:27
mart0042 wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 11:13
daytona wrote: 27 Oct 2019, 08:50 Gets a lot of stick does poor old Jamie, but just remember in the 2018 season which was also injury ravaged for us, he was the lead half for most of the season and we finished 3rd. I’d stick with him as a back up half personally. He can do a job and we won’t get anyone better as a back up player unless there is a young kid from the 19s going to burst on the scene. (Which there isn’t)
I agree, we need a halfback coming through.
We have had half backs come through the club over the years, Brierly, Reynolds, McLelland are a couple that come to mind, but unfortunately, the lack of a reserves and strong competition, meant they had to look elsewhere.
And they've not been good enough. None of them would be our 3rd choice at the moment.
A lack of reserve grade rugby killed Reynold's and McLelland's chances with us, they had to be ready after the 18's season finished and neither were. Brierly was always the top performer for our academy back in the day, the one everyone used to rave about, but never got the chance to go any further with it, not many would of got an opportunity with Rangi in the side.

Hopefully now the reserves are back, a few more half backs come through over the years. something tells me Trueman will be in a Wigan shirt in a few years time.

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Re: Jamie Ellis

Post by yorky » 28 Oct 2019, 16:15

gateman wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 15:14 its reported in love rugby league that Jamie is returning to Leigh for next season
yet in the Danny Ore interview he said Jamie was part of our plan for next season?

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Post by SREGITSAC » 28 Oct 2019, 20:51

yorky wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 16:15
gateman wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 15:14 its reported in love rugby league that Jamie is returning to Leigh for next season
yet in the Danny Ore interview he said Jamie was part of our plan for next season?
To be fair, until anything is official he has to be part of the plans

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Post by Mysterio » 28 Oct 2019, 22:20

heritage1926 wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 15:21
mart0042 wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 14:16
heritage1926 wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 11:27
mart0042 wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 11:13
daytona wrote: 27 Oct 2019, 08:50 Gets a lot of stick does poor old Jamie, but just remember in the 2018 season which was also injury ravaged for us, he was the lead half for most of the season and we finished 3rd. I’d stick with him as a back up half personally. He can do a job and we won’t get anyone better as a back up player unless there is a young kid from the 19s going to burst on the scene. (Which there isn’t)
I agree, we need a halfback coming through.
We have had half backs come through the club over the years, Brierly, Reynolds, McLelland are a couple that come to mind, but unfortunately, the lack of a reserves and strong competition, meant they had to look elsewhere.
And they've not been good enough. None of them would be our 3rd choice at the moment.
A lack of reserve grade rugby killed Reynold's and McLelland's chances with us, they had to be ready after the 18's season finished and neither were. Brierly was always the top performer for our academy back in the day, the one everyone used to rave about, but never got the chance to go any further with it, not many would of got an opportunity with Rangi in the side.

Hopefully now the reserves are back, a few more half backs come through over the years. something tells me Trueman will be in a Wigan shirt in a few years time.
That would be unacceptable.
We have the marquee rule should we need or wish to use it if he improves out of sight.
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Re: Jamie Ellis

Post by mart0042 » 29 Oct 2019, 11:04

Truey isn't a cas lad, so would be expected not to have his heart rule his head. So loyalty isn't a given.

If he went anywhere, then oz is the place for the money and the lifestyle. If we can keep him under contract at we at least get a fee in the future.

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Post by gateman » 29 Oct 2019, 11:15

mart0042 wrote: 29 Oct 2019, 11:04 Truey isn't a cas lad, so would be expected not to have his heart rule his head. So loyalty isn't a given.

If he went anywhere, then oz is the place for the money and the lifestyle. If we can keep him under contract at we at least get a fee in the future.
i am sure you are right there mate if i was young and good and in demand AUS would be the place for me

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Post by Mysterio » 29 Oct 2019, 11:18

How long is he under contract and what is his age. I think he’ll stay with us until at least 24.
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Post by tigerfeat » 29 Oct 2019, 11:21

There are a lot of good young half backs in the nrl as there are wingers i was surprised canberra went for williams tho they have done well with there signings from super league
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Post by Tamworth Tiger » 29 Oct 2019, 18:41

mart0042 wrote: 29 Oct 2019, 11:04 Truey isn't a cas lad, so would be expected not to have his heart rule his head. So loyalty isn't a given.

If he went anywhere, then oz is the place for the money and the lifestyle. If we can keep him under contract at we at least get a fee in the future.
Can’t think of many top rated Cas lads who have let their heart rule their heads in recent years, e.g. Clark, Westerman, Shenton, Orr, Huby although some of them had good reasons
I’m possibly wrong about Milner if it wasn’t just
agents games, and Watts this year but he’s already had many years elsewhere. Holmes is a one club man who has made the international squad. Have I missed anyone?

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Post by mart0042 » 30 Oct 2019, 14:24

Westerman and Clark didn't want to go but one paid for the planning permission for the not built in ground near xscape and one staved off administration.
Shenton and Orr needed a new challenge and got a higher wage.
Huby fell out with the club over a testimonial, so was said.

Some would happily spend their entire careers at Cas but sportsmen tend to be competitive and if Cas aren't, some will move on.

I'm sure watts and truey will receive offers over the next year or 2, though I'd suggest it'd be easier to keep watts who has seen it at other clubs and might prefer to stay close to his family.

Also looking at the stick some give massey, if he could play elsewhere on more money and away from his detractors he might be tempted.

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Post by Squaddie86 » 30 Oct 2019, 14:48

Anyone who thinks there's such a thing as loyalty in modern sports needs to give their heads a wobble.

Players careers are short and they'll persue the best money and working conditions they can.

That means that a player, any player, will sign for any club that offers:

1. The best money.
2. The best facilities and coaches.
3. The best chance at trophies.
4. The best chance to earn an even bigger contract in future.

Players may well accept less money short term if they know that it'll put them on the map in future, or they'll have access to coaching and facilities that mean they'll be looked after and enjoy going to work.

But ultimately loyalty to a badge? Not a chance. Badges don't put food on tables.

Right now players joining Cas are joining a team with excellent coaches, and a strong chance that playing well will be rewarded with bigger contracts, either here or elsewhere.

To ensure that talent continues to want to come to Castleford, we need better facilities and to mount serious challenges for trophies in coming years.

Relying on the loyalty of local boys won't cut it.

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