Next Year's Squad

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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by flow » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:54 pm

Kenilworth Tiger wrote:This is the squad that beat St Helens in the Semi Final in 2017

Hardaker; Minikin, Webster, Shenton, Eden; Roberts, Gale; Massey, McShane, Sene-Lefao, Foster, McMeeken, Milner.
Subs - Millington, Moors, Cook, Springer

We have lost Hardaker, Webster and Springer from that squad and added Watts and Matautia so I would say we are only 1 player worse off and that's Webster.

Wells has stated that we are pushing for 1 more signing - if that is a centre I'd say we're in pretty good shape if you add Truman, Holmes and Clark to that squad also
I think your underestimating. How good hardarker was that year shenton not same player mckeenen shadow off player webster gone minikin injury prone dont get your point

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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by fords » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:54 am

braytontiger wrote:
Lofthouse Tiger wrote:Good enough for what? Other than Webster its the same pool of players that finished 4th this year. Again just my opinion but we are 1 player short either a winger or centre but if the right player isn't available for whatever reason what do you do. I still feel our biggest problem last year other than no full back was poor fitness brought on by a shocking pre season which has been addressed with a new conditioner. Our squad is good enough,our coaching staff is good enough have some faith.

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Yep in terms of money 4th.

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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by fords » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:56 am

braytontiger wrote:
flow wrote:
Flat Capper wrote:I believe it was Winston Churchill who said something along the lines of, you have to look at history to prevent repeating the same mistakes.

Time and time again in our past we have failed to improve and strengthen squads, only to drop like a stone. It doesn't take a genius to work out the likely outcome of repeating the tact.
Great post the people who think squad is good enough are in cuckoo land dont matter how deep your squad if no Quality like when we never replaced Blackmore Kemp ellis ended in relegation with signing lower league players .rather have 16quality then a pool off thirty with 70% only good enough for lower league
Good enough for what? Other than Webster its the same pool of players that finished 4th this year. Again just my opinion but we are 1 player short either a winger or centre but if the right player isn't available for whatever reason what do you do. I still feel our biggest problem last year other than no full back was poor fitness brought on by a shocking pre season which has been addressed with a new conditioner. Our squad is good enough,our coaching staff is good enough have some faith.
Shocking pre season, enlighten us - what does that mean ?

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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by tigerfeat » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:59 am

New conditioner going to be answer to everything be looks ...
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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by TT Tiger » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:39 am

tigerfeat wrote:New conditioner going to be answer to everything be looks ...
Might be for Luke Gale

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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by braytontiger » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:43 am

fords wrote:
braytontiger wrote:
flow wrote:
Flat Capper wrote:I believe it was Winston Churchill who said something along the lines of, you have to look at history to prevent repeating the same mistakes.

Time and time again in our past we have failed to improve and strengthen squads, only to drop like a stone. It doesn't take a genius to work out the likely outcome of repeating the tact.
Great post the people who think squad is good enough are in cuckoo land dont matter how deep your squad if no Quality like when we never replaced Blackmore Kemp ellis ended in relegation with signing lower league players .rather have 16quality then a pool off thirty with 70% only good enough for lower league
Good enough for what? Other than Webster its the same pool of players that finished 4th this year. Again just my opinion but we are 1 player short either a winger or centre but if the right player isn't available for whatever reason what do you do. I still feel our biggest problem last year other than no full back was poor fitness brought on by a shocking pre season which has been addressed with a new conditioner. Our squad is good enough,our coaching staff is good enough have some faith.
Shocking pre season, enlighten us - what does that mean ?
Half the squad never had a pre season due to the world cup,coaches and medical team were also in Australia.

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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by tigerfeat » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:47 am

I don't know what work the other chap who left did or what work the new guy will do put poor show if the guy who left is coping the blame year we got to grand final we went through season relatively putting the same team out most weeks
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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by flow » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:53 am

braytontiger wrote:
fords wrote:
braytontiger wrote:
flow wrote:
Flat Capper wrote:I believe it was Winston Churchill who said something along the lines of, you have to look at history to prevent repeating the same mistakes.

Time and time again in our past we have failed to improve and strengthen squads, only to drop like a stone. It doesn't take a genius to work out the likely outcome of repeating the tact.
Great post the people who think squad is good enough are in cuckoo land dont matter how deep your squad if no Quality like when we never replaced Blackmore Kemp ellis ended in relegation with signing lower league players .rather have 16quality then a pool off thirty with 70% only good enough for lower league
Good enough for what? Other than Webster its the same pool of players that finished 4th this year. Again just my opinion but we are 1 player short either a winger or centre but if the right player isn't available for whatever reason what do you do. I still feel our biggest problem last year other than no full back was poor fitness brought on by a shocking pre season which has been addressed with a new conditioner. Our squad is good enough,our coaching staff is good enough have some faith.[/quot
Shocking pre season, enlighten us - what does that mean ?
Half the squad never had a pre season due to the world cup,coaches and medical team were also in Australia.
I still don't get how you can be happy we present squad specially back line with out any signings we got nil last two games and dint look like scoring passing it one side to other we out going any were.

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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by fords » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:35 am

braytontiger wrote:
fords wrote:
braytontiger wrote:
flow wrote:
Flat Capper wrote:I believe it was Winston Churchill who said something along the lines of, you have to look at history to prevent repeating the same mistakes.

Time and time again in our past we have failed to improve and strengthen squads, only to drop like a stone. It doesn't take a genius to work out the likely outcome of repeating the tact.
Great post the people who think squad is good enough are in cuckoo land dont matter how deep your squad if no Quality like when we never replaced Blackmore Kemp ellis ended in relegation with signing lower league players .rather have 16quality then a pool off thirty with 70% only good enough for lower league
Good enough for what? Other than Webster its the same pool of players that finished 4th this year. Again just my opinion but we are 1 player short either a winger or centre but if the right player isn't available for whatever reason what do you do. I still feel our biggest problem last year other than no full back was poor fitness brought on by a shocking pre season which has been addressed with a new conditioner. Our squad is good enough,our coaching staff is good enough have some faith.
Shocking pre season, enlighten us - what does that mean ?
Half the squad never had a pre season due to the world cup,coaches and medical team were also in Australia.
Not like we were the only team in SL to have players at the World Cup though was it.

Not sure what your expecting we finished 3rd after the regular season i'm sure the player were fit by the end of Sept or are you blaming all the injuries on having no pre-season ?

If so they only difference would have been we may have finished top not 3rd, still wouldn't have won the GF either way

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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by braytontiger » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:39 am

Time and time again in our past we have failed to improve and strengthen squads, only to drop like a stone. It doesn't take a genius to work out the likely outcome of repeating the tact.[/quote]
Great post the people who think squad is good enough are in cuckoo land dont matter how deep your squad if no Quality like when we never replaced Blackmore Kemp ellis ended in relegation with signing lower league players .rather have 16quality then a pool off thirty with 70% only good enough for lower league[/quote]

Good enough for what? Other than Webster its the same pool of players that finished 4th this year. Again just my opinion but we are 1 player short either a winger or centre but if the right player isn't available for whatever reason what do you do. I still feel our biggest problem last year other than no full back was poor fitness brought on by a shocking pre season which has been addressed with a new conditioner. Our squad is good enough,our coaching staff is good enough have some faith.[/quote]

Shocking pre season, enlighten us - what does that mean ?[/quote]
Half the squad never had a pre season due to the world cup,coaches and medical team were also in Australia.[/quote]

Not like we were the only team in SL to have players at the World Cup though was it.

Not sure what your expecting we finished 3rd after the regular season i'm sure the player were fit by the end of Sept or are you blaming all the injuries on having no pre-season ?

If so they only difference would have been we may have finished top not 3rd, still wouldn't have won the GF either way[/quote]

Ask yourself this. How many of our 2018 squad looked as fit,fast,sharp,strong as they were in 2017. Imo only macca and he walked away with the player of the year by a country mile. Now teams/players don't become bad overnight that is why I believe that if we can get back into the same or better condition than we were in 2017 we can be confident of going well. We even got Zak hardaker into a shape and saw his game rise to a different level. Its very easy to take your eye off the ball in any walk of life and become complacent,maybe we did I don't know and I wouldn't blame anyone if we had as it happens over a period of time and it cannot always be seen until its too late.

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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by old cas lass » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:54 am

If you want to be a top sports team you should never take your eye off the ball.
If that’s the case reguarding last seasons performances, and let’s be honest some of our performances were average at least, then who is to blame why did we became complacent.
Personally I think a lot of our problems were between the ears.
Players thinking how we gonna replicate the 2017, pressure got to some, not all.
Some players thinking there are better than they are.
Hopefully the 2017 season as been left behind and the players get back to the wonderful free flowing rugby we know they can do.

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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by braytontiger » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:47 pm

old cas lass wrote:If you want to be a top sports team you should never take your eye off the ball.
If that’s the case reguarding last seasons performances, and let’s be honest some of our performances were average at least, then who is to blame why did we became complacent.
Personally I think a lot of our problems were between the ears.
Players thinking how we gonna replicate the 2017, pressure got to some, not all.
Some players thinking there are better than they are.
Hopefully the 2017 season as been left behind and the players get back to the wonderful free flowing rugby we know they can do.
Although I agree we need to be mentally tougher I believe getting back to the 2017 standards is exactly what we should be striving for,I can give you loads of examples of teams dropping from there peak to not been great the following year but then coming good again that's what makes sport so unpredictable. Understandingly you have to change what your doing and freshen things up or jobs and that's what it is for players becomes boring and tedious but you also have to stick at what works.

I wouldn't be quick to write us off as some are doing here's hoping for a great 2019

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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by tigerfeat » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:12 pm

weve spent all or nearly all of the salary cap on this squad so they have to deliver ...with a couple of players out a couple new in i could put down a cas team id back to beat anybody next season at the same time there are with out doubt some question marks against the squad now,thats why people love sport see which way it goes and if we can be top dogs by the end of next season
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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by fast hands » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:05 pm

I wouldn't be quick to write us off as some are doing here's hoping for a great 2019[/quote]

Brayton Tiger, we have got used to Forum scribes readily writing our team off season after season. I am pleased that we can be seen now, as a team that deserve to be in the mix at the end of season chase for honours, let's embrace where we have come from, and where we are now. Like you hoping for a great 2019.

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Re: Next Year's Squad

Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:30 pm

TT Tiger wrote:
tigerfeat wrote:New conditioner going to be answer to everything be looks ...
Might be for Luke Gale
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