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Post by Allerton eskimo » 02 Feb 2018, 21:47

Let’s face it... it will be the hottest debated topic and worthy of its own thread!

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by Surreycasfan » 02 Feb 2018, 21:49

Come on get behind the boys

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by Allerton eskimo » 02 Feb 2018, 21:51

I don’t disagree - this is a thread for good and bad. The fact is that the choice to put Roberts at full back is controversial so worth debate.

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by nottinghamtiger » 02 Feb 2018, 21:55

My opinion is he is lazy. That’s not conducive to playing at full back.
Too lazy to return a 40-20.
Too lazy to work hard across the back of the line so he can cover kicks through.
All full-backs make mistakes. It’s an exposed position and I have no real issues with him dropping the odd high kick and fumbling the odd pick-up.
What I take issue with is his lack of effort.
And to rub salt into the wounds, we’ll probably get fined as he’s wearing the wrong socks.

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by nottinghamtiger » 02 Feb 2018, 22:05

nottinghamtiger wrote:My opinion is he is lazy. That’s not conducive to playing at full back.
Too lazy to return a 40-20.
Too lazy to work hard across the back of the line so he can cover kicks through.
All full-backs make mistakes. It’s an exposed position and I have no real issues with him dropping the odd high kick and fumbling the odd pick-up.
What I take issue with is his lack of effort.
And to rub salt into the wounds, we’ll probably get fined as he’s wearing the wrong socks.
Though watching McMeekan get to a kick before our full-back, I’m wondering if it’s not laziness but a lack of fitness. Roberts just can’t seem to make the ground he needs to so he’s in the right place.

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by old cas lass » 02 Feb 2018, 22:09

Makes you wonder what they’ve been doing for 4 months.

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by KB80 » 02 Feb 2018, 22:12

old cas lass wrote:Makes you wonder what they’ve been doing for 4 months.
Its an odd one. Did he coaching staff not realise he wasn't fit enough to play full back before tonight?!

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by nottinghamtiger » 02 Feb 2018, 22:15

KB80 wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Makes you wonder what they’ve been doing for 4 months.
Its an odd one. Did he coaching staff not realise he wasn't fit enough to play full back before tonight?!
Nothing can replicate the intensity of match conditions.
Some players can look like World-beaters in training but crumble in competitive action.
Roberts at full-back is one such example.

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by KB80 » 02 Feb 2018, 22:18

nottinghamtiger wrote:
KB80 wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Makes you wonder what they’ve been doing for 4 months.
Its an odd one. Did he coaching staff not realise he wasn't fit enough to play full back before tonight?!
Nothing can replicate the intensity of match conditions.
Some players can look like World-beaters in training but crumble in competitive action.
Roberts at full-back is one such example.
Kind of agree, except he was blowing 15 minutes in....

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by Tamworth Tiger » 02 Feb 2018, 23:03

[quote="old cas lass"]Makes you wonder what they’ve been doing for 4 months.[/quote
Fair comment. Well into his 30s and playing in the World Cup through November

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Post by ERG2012 » 02 Feb 2018, 23:06

Tamworth Tiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Makes you wonder what they’ve been doing for 4 months.[/quote
Fair comment. Well into his 30s and playing in the World Cup through November
Count how many Saints players were involved in the world Cup...

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by Tamworth Tiger » 02 Feb 2018, 23:10

ERG2012 wrote:
Tamworth Tiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Makes you wonder what they’ve been doing for 4 months.[/quote
Fair comment. Well into his 30s and playing in the World Cup through November
Count how many Saints players were involved in the world Cup...[/quote
How many of them were as old as Ben Roberts?

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by Bolton-tiger » 02 Feb 2018, 23:11

ERG2012 wrote:
Tamworth Tiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Makes you wonder what they’ve been doing for 4 months.[/quote
Fair comment. Well into his 30s and playing in the World Cup through November
Count how many Saints players were involved in the world Cup...

8 players who played in the world cup played tonight and look how well they played for saints.i agree with other people roberts was lazy tonight and is not our anser to the full back position.look at him compared to barba and barba showed roberts howbto properly play full back he had his hands in everything from attack to defence to kicking

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by Scoopage » 02 Feb 2018, 23:12

We’re Playing someone at full back who hasn’t played there his whole career apart from odd occasion he covered dorn.he just isn’t capable.he must have done some special things in training.a full back needs to have safe hands and Roberts hasn’t got that at all.we were truly blessed last season to have hardaker.mcmeeken was horrendous also.lazy performance from him.are timing in attack was well off and our defensive reads poor.need to get back on horse v Widnes

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by Tamworth Tiger » 02 Feb 2018, 23:14

Bolton-tiger wrote:
ERG2012 wrote:
Tamworth Tiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Makes you wonder what they’ve been doing for 4 months.[/quote
Fair comment. Well into his 30s and playing in the World Cup through November
Count how many Saints players were involved in the world Cup...

8 players who played in the world cup played tonight and look how well they played for saints.i agree with other people roberts was lazy tonight and is not our anser to the full back position.look at him compared to barba and barba showed roberts howbto properly play full back he had his hands in everything from attack to defence to kicking
Looked like fitness rather than laziness to me

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by Lofthouse Tiger » 02 Feb 2018, 23:16

I am not going to bag Roberts. He isnt a full back and shouldnt be there. We dont have anyone in this squad that can play fb. We should have brought someone in when the cokehead sh*t on the club.

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by nottinghamtiger » 02 Feb 2018, 23:20

Tamworth Tiger wrote:
Bolton-tiger wrote:
ERG2012 wrote:
Tamworth Tiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Makes you wonder what they’ve been doing for 4 months.[/quote
Fair comment. Well into his 30s and playing in the World Cup through November
Count how many Saints players were involved in the world Cup...

8 players who played in the world cup played tonight and look how well they played for saints.i agree with other people roberts was lazy tonight and is not our anser to the full back position.look at him compared to barba and barba showed roberts howbto properly play full back he had his hands in everything from attack to defence to kicking
Looked like fitness rather than laziness to me
I’m going for laziness. I don’t buy that a pro RL player isn’t fit enough to change direction less than 20 minutes into a game. His work across the back of the line is just lazy too - he just meanders around at walking-pace as the ball moves from one side to the other, so he’s well out of position when the line is broken or he needs to field a kick.

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by Spanishtiger » 02 Feb 2018, 23:26

In fairness to Roberts it was a big ask, his usual role is to drift in and out of play as an attacking impact player and his defensive contribution is normally as a marker tackler.

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Re: Ben Roberts

Post by fords » 02 Feb 2018, 23:27

Spanishtiger wrote:In fairness to Roberts it was a big ask, his usual role is to drift in and out of play as an attacking impact player and his defensive contribution is normally as a marker tackler.
He don't have the legs, never needed them before. Being 32 don't help neither

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