New Ground for Cas or NOT !

All things related to the Castleford Tigers.
XXX
Sean Rudder
Posts: 2
Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:35 am

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by XXX » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:15 pm

Not saying anything new but worth a read
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/best-in-le ... 2-17378807

Mysterio
Michael Eagar
Posts: 4216
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:32 pm
Contact:

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Mysterio » Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:42 pm

Overriding feeling is still that we somehow won’t get a new stadium,,,,
Audacter Et Sincere

Frankas
Michael Eagar
Posts: 4328
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:09 pm

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Frankas » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:18 am

Is it?.
Image

User avatar
mart0042
Brad Davis
Posts: 5399
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 3:06 pm
Location: behind the table in the lab deep under Racoon City.....

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by mart0042 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:04 pm

The companies are added when they are signed. Would be really strange to be doing this if it wasn't happening.

Hopefully on Thursday we can start to get brexit out of the way and the country can move on.

Casmania
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Posts: 5759
Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:47 pm
Location: Castleford

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Casmania » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:12 pm

mart0042 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:04 pm
The companies are added when they are signed. Would be really strange to be doing this if it wasn't happening.

Hopefully on Thursday we can start to get brexit out of the way and the country can move on.
I think you will find the only thing that has been 'signed' so far are the terms of agreement - which are the norm for a commercial development of this type.
Only when the parent contract is signed are the retailers then committed.
Image

MY CLUB. MY CAS

User avatar
mart0042
Brad Davis
Posts: 5399
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 3:06 pm
Location: behind the table in the lab deep under Racoon City.....

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by mart0042 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:08 pm

Casmania wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:12 pm
mart0042 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:04 pm
The companies are added when they are signed. Would be really strange to be doing this if it wasn't happening.

Hopefully on Thursday we can start to get brexit out of the way and the country can move on.
I think you will find the only thing that has been 'signed' so far are the terms of agreement - which are the norm for a commercial development of this type.
Only when the parent contract is signed are the retailers then committed.
I bow to your better knowledge of these things.

So I take it the adding to the companies is a move to try and entice others to join? Rather than a company signing up and wanting to be associated to the build. I don't know or could it be both?

Casmania
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Posts: 5759
Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:47 pm
Location: Castleford

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Casmania » Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:14 pm

mart0042 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:08 pm
Casmania wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:12 pm
mart0042 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:04 pm
The companies are added when they are signed. Would be really strange to be doing this if it wasn't happening.

Hopefully on Thursday we can start to get brexit out of the way and the country can move on.
I think you will find the only thing that has been 'signed' so far are the terms of agreement - which are the norm for a commercial development of this type.
Only when the parent contract is signed are the retailers then committed.
I bow to your better knowledge of these things.

So I take it the adding to the companies is a move to try and entice others to join? Rather than a company signing up and wanting to be associated to the build. I don't know or could it be both?
A mixture of both. The key factor depends on how retailers see their future. With the ongoing downturn in high street / shopping centres sales, allied to the growth in online shopping, retailers will be looking carefully at all options, including downsizing.
The Axiom development, has 75 units, that is a lot to fill in the current climate.
Image

MY CLUB. MY CAS

HuddsTigers
Malcolm Reilly
Posts: 15426
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:55 am

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by HuddsTigers » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:52 pm

60 units.

It was changed. Also 1 is a garden centre and 7 are catering - not sure if these are going to be the ones run by The Bus Business or not or whether that is separate.

A lot of the units are also very small stores so I imagine the anchor stores will be ones targeted first. Makes it easier to sell if it is getting built and units are signed up.

So 14/52 retail units.
In the spirit of the final Blackadder episode - Goooodbyeee!

Casmania
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Posts: 5759
Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:47 pm
Location: Castleford

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Casmania » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:37 pm

Yes, lost track of how many times it has changed.
14 out of 52, 26‰ uptake
Or 14 out of 60 units, 23% uptake, presuming they do take up the option.
Image

MY CLUB. MY CAS

User avatar
mart0042
Brad Davis
Posts: 5399
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 3:06 pm
Location: behind the table in the lab deep under Racoon City.....

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by mart0042 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:33 am

Neither 23 or 25% are close to the trigger point or is it done in sq metres taken, as in the 14 taken up might equate to a larger %?

tigerfeat
Kevin Ward
Posts: 8878
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:07 pm

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by tigerfeat » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:07 am

mart0042 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:33 am
Neither 23 or 25% are close to the trigger point or is it done in sq metres taken, as in the 14 taken up might equate to a larger %?
that puzzled me as im sure a couple of people posted on here couple of months back we were now close to the trigger point
The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have
Vince Lombardi

Casmania
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Posts: 5759
Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:47 pm
Location: Castleford

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Casmania » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:19 am

mart0042 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:33 am
Neither 23 or 25% are close to the trigger point or is it done in sq metres taken, as in the 14 taken up might equate to a larger %?
Square meterage, which as you say will give a higher overall percentage, however it still means that at present circa 75% of units remain unsold.
Image

MY CLUB. MY CAS

on side
Kirk Dixon
Posts: 101
Joined: Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:18 pm

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by on side » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:34 am

Casmania wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:19 am
mart0042 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:33 am
Neither 23 or 25% are close to the trigger point or is it done in sq metres taken, as in the 14 taken up might equate to a larger %?
Square meterage, which as you say will give a higher overall percentage, however it still means that at present circa 75% of units remain unsold.
Think it will become aload off Barratts no way its going to be a shopping centre. Some people are still hanging on to the dream off a free staduim which would have being nice

CasRus
Junior Moors
Posts: 951
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:28 pm

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by CasRus » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:22 pm

Why can’t they think of putting the stadium in the middle of the racecourse as there is plenty room for parking and utilities would be close enough to tap into the racecourse utilities and it would utilise the dead space in the middle of the course !!
Discussion Please !

braytontiger
Michael Eagar
Posts: 4980
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:17 am

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by braytontiger » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:40 pm

CasRus wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:22 pm
Why can’t they think of putting the stadium in the middle of the racecourse as there is plenty room for parking and utilities would be close enough to tap into the racecourse utilities and it would utilise the dead space in the middle of the course !!
Discussion Please !
Land isn’t the issue it’s having a spare 20 million that’s the problem.
If we had the money to build anything Wheldon Rd is the perfect spot. But the bottom line is we don’t have the money.

Post Reply