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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 19:04
by Squaddie86
HuddsTigers wrote:If it was Cas getting it I think everyone's reaction would be slightly different, .

I'm on record on this forum in my opposition to tax money being spent on professional sports teams - Cas included.

The only way I'd find it acceptable is if the money was on a public facility complete with things like a pool, athletic track, multi use sports surfaces/training facilities etc. Which were open to all.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 19:42
by TT Tiger
Squaddie86 wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:If it was Cas getting it I think everyone's reaction would be slightly different, .

I'm on record on this forum in my opposition to tax money being spent on professional sports teams - Cas included.

The only way I'd find it acceptable is if the money was on a public facility complete with things like a pool, athletic track, multi use sports surfaces/training facilities etc. Which were open to all.
^^^^this
Not that I live in wmdc but I can understand exactly the feelings here.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 19:59
by casjunction
For more than a decade austerity has been the political mantra.
The consequences are there for all to.
Cuts to public services.
Public Sector pay freeze.
Food banks.
I could go on.
Sports and politics a few scandals there.
So it raises many questions.
But there again many of the the arts receive public money and some are more popular with those with money.
Seem to remember political shinanigan over ar Salford not too long ago.
I see no financial logic.
Trinity should do all. they can to secure this deal.
It will never come again.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 20:58
by Dunkirk Spirit
Good evening, first post on this forum, I am a Trinity fan first a rugby league fan second. I read with interest most forums but seldom post. I would like to comment re the Trinity stadium. At this current time as far as I’m aware, the Council has only proposed the loan. The Council have made such statements before but never delivered. The stadium trust has made no comment yet, and our chairman John Minards advised fans to accept only the statements made by the Trust/club. It’s understandable that some of our fans are excited about this news, but any Council statements have to be taken with a pinch of salt. Both Cas and Trinity clubs and fans have been let down by both Council and developers over the years. I think for both sets of fans it’s a case of wait and see. I do hope both our clubs get what we have been promised by the developers.

Thank you

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 21:59
by HuddsTigers
PLANNING PERMISSION GRANTED:

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 22:03
by old cas lass
HuddsTigers wrote:PLANNING PERMISSION GRANTED:
Good news, but nothing can happen until we get another 15% units signed up.
That could take an eternity. So still a waiting game.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 22:28
by TheSheriff
old cas lass wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:PLANNING PERMISSION GRANTED:
Good news, but nothing can happen until we get another 15% units signed up.
That could take an eternity. So still a waiting game.
It's another 11 stores. Now it has PP all the units, never mind the 11 needed to build will be eaten up by companies...They know it'll happen so can commit to the project and going public with it.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 22:34
by tigerfeat
Great news ....I never thought we would get to this stage ...exciting times ahead now

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 23:13
by casjunction
Evening Dunkirk Spirit.
Coming on here with a well reasoned, objective and balanced post.
We can do with trouble causer like you.
Welcome aboard.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 00:18
by lurcher
TheSheriff wrote:
old cas lass wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:PLANNING PERMISSION GRANTED:
Good news, but nothing can happen until we get another 15% units signed up.
That could take an eternity. So still a waiting game.
It's another 11 stores. Now it has PP all the units, never mind the 11 needed to build will be eaten up by companies...They know it'll happen so can commit to the project and going public with it.
correct mate, axiom/lateral always said once pp was complete lots more would sign up.
makes sense really, would any body buy a new house off plan before pp was granted?

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 00:42
by lurcher
JIN JER wrote:Don't get wound up too quickly, wait and see what the details are. I can't imagine for a minute that WMDC can just take out a loan for a private sporting club and give £3.1M to said club, the loan must have to be ratified somewhere along the line.
i agree to some extent jinj mate my post late last night was maybe a tad hasty in some respects.
having thought about it a bit more deeply i do have a major concern.
when this whole newmarket epic started it was the trust that would own the community stadium and rent it back to the club. (anchor tenants) and i don't think any one had a problem with that. although the trust were warned many times by a cas poster that they had taken their eye off the ball and it would never happen. he has been proved right so far.
my worry now is that this loan is to "the club" which i assume means the said owner of the club.
if this is so mc got the club for nothing and and by virtue of a very generous gesture by wmdc now stands to make £millions in profit if he sells the club. as you say its best to wait for details but if this is true it makes you wonder if mc has actually been in league with *^&"£$+_*&% all the time. he is first and foremost a businessman after all. as always mate we'll have to wait and see.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 00:45
by lurcher
Dunkirk Spirit wrote:Good evening, first post on this forum, I am a Trinity fan first a rugby league fan second. I read with interest most forums but seldom post. I would like to comment re the Trinity stadium. At this current time as far as I’m aware, the Council has only proposed the loan. The Council have made such statements before but never delivered. The stadium trust has made no comment yet, and our chairman John Minards advised fans to accept only the statements made by the Trust/club. It’s understandable that some of our fans are excited about this news, but any Council statements have to be taken with a pinch of salt. Both Cas and Trinity clubs and fans have been let down by both Council and developers over the years. I think for both sets of fans it’s a case of wait and see. I do hope both our clubs get what we have been promised by the developers.

Thank you
welcome on board mate, opposition fans are always welcome on here and jinjer is testament to that.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 08:26
by flow
tigerfeat wrote:Great news ....I never thought we would get to this stage ...exciting times ahead now
when if we get a start date, they should make a big thing about it. get a x cas legend to shovel the first bit off muck were stadium going to be .

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 08:45
by Dixie D
Dunkirk Spirit wrote:Good evening, first post on this forum, I am a Trinity fan first a rugby league fan second. I read with interest most forums but seldom post. I would like to comment re the Trinity stadium. At this current time as far as I’m aware, the Council has only proposed the loan. The Council have made such statements before but never delivered. The stadium trust has made no comment yet, and our chairman John Minards advised fans to accept only the statements made by the Trust/club. It’s understandable that some of our fans are excited about this news, but any Council statements have to be taken with a pinch of salt. Both Cas and Trinity clubs and fans have been let down by both Council and developers over the years. I think for both sets of fans it’s a case of wait and see. I do hope both our clubs get what we have been promised by the developers.

Thank you
Good post that mate welcome. While we often snipe at each other, I think most fans from both sets would agree that having a strong Cas and Wakey in the super league with leading facilities would be great for the area. Sick of seeing the Lanc teams stretching ahead on and off the pitch.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 09:10
by gateman
being a amateur rugby league fan to keep the production line of young players wanting to play our game, we need a strong Wakefield Feath and Cas ,

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 09:25
by JIN JER
lurcher wrote:
JIN JER wrote:Don't get wound up too quickly, wait and see what the details are. I can't imagine for a minute that WMDC can just take out a loan for a private sporting club and give £3.1M to said club, the loan must have to be ratified somewhere along the line.
i agree to some extent jinj mate my post late last night was maybe a tad hasty in some respects.
having thought about it a bit more deeply i do have a major concern.
when this whole newmarket epic started it was the trust that would own the community stadium and rent it back to the club. (anchor tenants) and i don't think any one had a problem with that. although the trust were warned many times by a cas poster that they had taken their eye off the ball and it would never happen. he has been proved right so far.
my worry now is that this loan is to "the club" which i assume means the said owner of the club.
if this is so mc got the club for nothing and and by virtue of a very generous gesture by wmdc now stands to make £millions in profit if he sells the club. as you say its best to wait for details but if this is true it makes you wonder if mc has actually been in league with *^&"£$+_*&% all the time. he is first and foremost a businessman after all. as always mate we'll have to wait and see.
A couple of points her Lurcher, I'm very poor remembering figures but I'm pretty sure MC put his own house on the line as collateral against loans etc, I'm pretty sure he wiped out £600K of debt and is still clearing debt to date, so with due respect he hardly got the club for nothing.
As for being in league with, I'm assuming you're alluding to Yorkcourt I can't honestly see that for a minute reading all the comments from MC for the last few years he held YC in as much disdain as the rest of us supporters.
Again I myself can't imagine WMDC taking out a loan and "gifting" £3.1M to Trinity per se? What I could imagine would be that "The trust" would handle the loan, the club would pay rental in form of interest repayments of the loan.
I'm quite obviously a Trinity supporter, but as a bloke with morals (too many at times) in these days of food banks, people living on the streets and austerity measures in general it does sit a little uneasy with me. Then again if/when all the details surface I'm pretty sure it won't be as simple as it appears at the moment.
Ps. As another aside, another fear of mine would be, if "The trust" is to handle BV after the loan, which trust is this likely to be, could Rodders trust put themselves forward as the Trinity trust as opposed to the "official trust" that has been negotiating for five years?

And breathe. :)

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 10:59
by HuddsTigers

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 11:06
by old cas lass

Wonder who the 2 were who voted against it.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 11:08
by Tigerade
When you read that article the thing that stands out for me is the creation of an extra 1000 jobs (from 2000 to 3000) which is only good news in my opinion.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 11:19
by flow
old cas lass wrote:

Wonder who the 2 were who voted against it.
Most people are not botherd about political rubbish and back handers .The music to peoples ears is at the bottom off the statement we hope to be laying the first bricks some time this year , gentlemen. Start your jcbs