2020 Squad

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Tyke123
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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by Tyke123 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:46 pm

Full back is the least problems we have to be honest.
We really did struggle with the forwards last year.

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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by nottinghamtiger » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:58 pm

Tyke123 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:46 pm
Tyke123 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:28 am
tigerfeat wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:17 am
I'd have us 3rd if nothing happens injury wise to the two half -backs
Even with a relatively injury free season the lost punching power of the mentioned forwards, a centre whats lost his cutting edge with age, and a new (but promising) half back what has to settle in, its a fight for 5th for me.
I do hope I'm proved wrong and 3rd would be exceptional in my eyes.
I think the problem we’ve got is that not many of our players would get in the first choice starting 17 at Wigan or St Helens.
Full backs (Rankin and Mata’utia) - no, Coote and Hardaker are better.
Wingers (Eden and Feki) - no, Makinson, Grace, Marshall, Burgess and French are better. I guess that’s maybe a bit harsh on Feki, he might be a superstar in SL, but he’ll have to be good to be better than the above.
Centres (Blair and Shenton) - no, Percival, Naiqama and Gildart are better. Maybe Wigan would take Blair over Hankinson.
Halves (Trueman and Richardson) - I think Fages and Lomax are both better than our two, as is Hastings at Wigan. I don’t doubt Wigan would take Trueman though.

In the forwards, I don’t see our pack as a whole as better than either Wigan’s or Saints’s. Liam Watts would walk into either team, beyond that I think McMeekan and Sene-Lafeo are the only ones who would be in Wigan or Saints’ first choice 17. Maybe that’s harsh on some of our players, but Wigan’s kids seem to have the better of our more experienced forwards last year.

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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by tigerfeat » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:11 pm

i wouldnt say burgess was better than feki and i dont think it matters who would get in what squad Powell gets the team playing as a group
On our forwards for next season there will be a massive fight for starting places anybody not upping there game will be stood down
I agree on Gigot id look to him also before he gets taken by french kick and clap,unless weve got a player lined up to come in as full back which wouldnt surprise me
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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by Oldcasman » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:18 pm

mart0042 wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:52 am
GarryP wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:40 pm
I hope Junior comes through pre season and gets fit. He had a bad injury and was in a bad way for weeks. It would be good if he could have an influence in a few games for us. Last season either way?
Most players knowing its their last hurrah play exceptionally well. Then we clamber for them to get a new contract and it all goes bits up.

I'd like to see a clear plan from the club and let us know they are retiring and we can give them a season long send off. Benny deserved one and it would have been nice for him.
Benny wasn’t on the field long enough to deserve a season long send off most fans were glad to see the back of him

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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by Mysterio » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:57 pm

Oldcasman wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:18 pm
mart0042 wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:52 am
GarryP wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:40 pm
I hope Junior comes through pre season and gets fit. He had a bad injury and was in a bad way for weeks. It would be good if he could have an influence in a few games for us. Last season either way?
Most players knowing its their last hurrah play exceptionally well. Then we clamber for them to get a new contract and it all goes bits up.

I'd like to see a clear plan from the club and let us know they are retiring and we can give them a season long send off. Benny deserved one and it would have been nice for him.
Benny wasn’t on the field long enough to deserve a season long send off most fans were glad to see the back of him
Very true.
Still don’t know the full story about his spat with adz either.
I would guess once you fall out with adz, macca and the rest of the squad begin to reassess too..
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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by Andrew6666 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:01 pm

Tyke123 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:46 pm
Full back is the least problems we have to be honest.
We really did struggle with the forwards last year.
Agree, we seem light in the front row (bar Watts). Millington and Moores didn't have the greatest of seasons last year and seem to be coming to the end of their careers sadly. We do seem very heavy on 2nd rowers that we try to force into the front row - Jesse, Foster, and loose forward Massey.

I would like to see another big forward brought in.

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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by Mysterio » Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:03 pm

Big go forward forward and a full back then.

Wouldn’t be impossible if some cute business was conducted.

It won’t be.
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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by The Firm » Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:37 pm

Andrew6666 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:01 pm
Tyke123 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:46 pm
Full back is the least problems we have to be honest.
We really did struggle with the forwards last year.
Agree, we seem light in the front row (bar Watts). Millington and Moores didn't have the greatest of seasons last year and seem to be coming to the end of their careers sadly. We do seem very heavy on 2nd rowers that we try to force into the front row - Jesse, Foster, and loose forward Massey.

I would like to see another big forward brought in.
100% agree. Out of our front row Watts stands out a mile, the others less so. Millington, Moors & Cook have a combined age of virtually a 100 and it’s starting to show, Hepi is unproven and the likes of Smith & Massey workmanlike but average. We need at least one more who can make an impact otherwise mid-table mediocrity looms at best. Talk of top 3 is a fantasy to be honest.

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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by lidds » Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:45 pm

The Firm wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:37 pm
Andrew6666 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:01 pm
Tyke123 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:46 pm
Full back is the least problems we have to be honest.
We really did struggle with the forwards last year.
Agree, we seem light in the front row (bar Watts). Millington and Moores didn't have the greatest of seasons last year and seem to be coming to the end of their careers sadly. We do seem very heavy on 2nd rowers that we try to force into the front row - Jesse, Foster, and loose forward Massey.

I would like to see another big forward brought in.
100% agree. Out of our front row Watts stands out a mile, the others less so. Millington, Moors & Cook have a combined age of virtually a 100 and it’s starting to show, Hepi is unproven and the likes of Smith & Massey workmanlike but average. We need at least one more who can make an impact otherwise mid-table mediocrity looms at best. Talk of top 3 is a fantasy to be honest.
Mid table at best? think that's a extremely pessimistic view

Compared with what we started last season with I would say we are in a better position at FB, I like rankin and hopefully a full pre season at FB will get him prepped.

Wing we have certainly improved with adding Feki,

Although Moors and Millo are ageing, there is a fair bit of competition there, We still have one of the best props in the league, and griffin gets through some real work, Hepi in the back row with foster back will liven things up too.

HB really exciting, rather than young Jake having to do all the work he finally has a starting half to work with with a V good kicking game.

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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by The Firm » Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:49 pm

lidds wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:45 pm
The Firm wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:37 pm
Andrew6666 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:01 pm
Tyke123 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:46 pm
Full back is the least problems we have to be honest.
We really did struggle with the forwards last year.
Agree, we seem light in the front row (bar Watts). Millington and Moores didn't have the greatest of seasons last year and seem to be coming to the end of their careers sadly. We do seem very heavy on 2nd rowers that we try to force into the front row - Jesse, Foster, and loose forward Massey.

I would like to see another big forward brought in.
100% agree. Out of our front row Watts stands out a mile, the others less so. Millington, Moors & Cook have a combined age of virtually a 100 and it’s starting to show, Hepi is unproven and the likes of Smith & Massey workmanlike but average. We need at least one more who can make an impact otherwise mid-table mediocrity looms at best. Talk of top 3 is a fantasy to be honest.
Mid table at best? think that's a extremely pessimistic view

Compared with what we started last season with I would say we are in a better position at FB, I like rankin and hopefully a full pre season at FB will get him prepped.

Wing we have certainly improved with adding Feki,

Although Moors and Millo are ageing, there is a fair bit of competition there, We still have one of the best props in the league, and griffin gets through some real work, Hepi in the back row with foster back will liven things up too.

HB really exciting, rather than young Jake having to do all the work he finally has a starting half to work with with a V good kicking game.
Sorry, don’t get mad fuss about Richardson. He’s alright but not a patch on the guy he is ultimately replacing at this point in his career. He will likely improve as time goes on but i’m not expecting that much from him this year. Feki is a decent signing but Blair needs improve a thousand fold, Shenton is heading downhill like a skier in the alps and Eden is,well, Eden. Olpherts is a waste of cap space type if signing. Rocks and diamonds. Our main strength is the backrow where we are stacked but we can’t play them all. A lot depends on McShane being the 2017 & 2018 version and not this last seasons.

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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by dude » Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:40 pm

The guy Richardson is replacing hasnt played for 2 years. So in reality Richardson is replacing aston, Ellis, matautia and rankin who all played in the halves and he is miles better than them. We made playoffs twice without gale and now we have a half back who is miles better than the rest of them

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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by gateman » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:17 pm

dude wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:40 pm
The guy Richardson is replacing hasnt played for 2 years. So in reality Richardson is replacing aston, Ellis, matautia and rankin who all played in the halves and he is miles better than them. We made playoffs twice without gale and now we have a half back who is miles better than the rest of them
well said mate thats my thoughts

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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by mart0042 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:55 am

Mysterio wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:57 pm
Oldcasman wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:18 pm
mart0042 wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:52 am
GarryP wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:40 pm
I hope Junior comes through pre season and gets fit. He had a bad injury and was in a bad way for weeks. It would be good if he could have an influence in a few games for us. Last season either way?
Most players knowing its their last hurrah play exceptionally well. Then we clamber for them to get a new contract and it all goes bits up.

I'd like to see a clear plan from the club and let us know they are retiring and we can give them a season long send off. Benny deserved one and it would have been nice for him.
Benny wasn’t on the field long enough to deserve a season long send off most fans were glad to see the back of him
Very true.
Still don’t know the full story about his spat with adz either.
I would guess once you fall out with adz, macca and the rest of the squad begin to reassess too..
I would have liked to have said thanks, at least for the quality he brought on his day. The drop goal and his performance at Leeds away, to say the least.

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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by alftupper » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:29 pm

wow, 3rd?!

is the competition that poor or are one or two posters making a late claim for the Forum Optimist of the Year 2019?

The bookmakers that I have seen have us 6th which is about right imo

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Re: 2020 Squad

Post by tigerfeat » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:43 pm

Salford were one of the bookmakers favourites to finish in the bottom four last season what they think means zilch
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