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Post by Fumper27 » 11 Sep 2019, 12:36

Jesus Christ!!! Me v Flow or Vinniedog v Robbo have nothing on the spite and vitriol between you guys

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Post by WF10 » 11 Sep 2019, 13:09

Flat Capper wrote:I'm not reading all that diatribe but on the point of democracy, I'll point out our actual democratic system that has serve us so well:-

MP's stand on their manifesto and you either like it, and vote for it, or just don't. There are many issues decided by Parliament and we put our trust in the elected members to act upon what we vote for. If they fail to do that, they run the risk of losing at the next election and every MP voting against a 'no deal' Brexit is fully aware of the potential consequences.

The referendum result was not legally binding and did not force any Government to implement it although the Tory Government did promise to act on the result. That did not bind any other political party to do the same but on the basis of the above, they’d be taking a huge risk if tey fail to follow the wish of the public.

I truly believe in our democratic system and fully expect the British public to vote in accordance with their wishes at the next election. If they decide to retain the current incumbents then that too is their wish. True democracy.

Removing the ability of our elected representatives is not democracy, it's a dictatorship.

Your Brexitiers are so entrenched in your self-righteous nonsense that it is you who cannot see the wood for the trees.
Labour also accepted the referendum result.

Their 2017 manifesto said: Labour accepts the referendum result and a Labour government will put the national interest first.

With the caveat - 'We will reject ‘no deal’ as a viable option and if needs be negotiate transitional arrangements to avoid a 'cliff-edge’ for the UK economy.

A Labour approach to Brexit also means legislating to guarantee that Parliament has a truly meaningful vote on the final Brexit deal.'

So Labour have always accepted the referendum result but always been against 'No Deal'.

Have always said that they will negotiate Brexit with priorities on retaining the benefits of the Single Market & Customs Union, essential for maintaining industries, jobs & businesses in Britain and putting jobs first.

Have always been for ensuring that Parliament has a meaningful vote on the final Brexit deal - which seems now to be extended to the wider public.

But they are now a 'remain party', by Adolfs logic anyway.

And he wonders why he gets laughed at!
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Post by Flat Capper » 11 Sep 2019, 13:21

Fumper27 wrote:Jesus Christ!!! Me v Flow or Vinniedog v Robbo have nothing on the spite and vitriol between you guys
It's just a bit of political posturing. 8)
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Post by WF10 » 11 Sep 2019, 13:49

Flat Capper wrote:
Fumper27 wrote:Jesus Christ!!! Me v Flow or Vinniedog v Robbo have nothing on the spite and vitriol between you guys
It's just a bit of political posturing. 8)
Me & Rus have this row every Thursday afternoon through the Glassblower window!
He's inside & I'm outside, obviously.
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Post by CasRus » 11 Sep 2019, 14:02

WF10 wrote:
Flat Capper wrote:
Fumper27 wrote:Jesus Christ!!! Me v Flow or Vinniedog v Robbo have nothing on the spite and vitriol between you guys
It's just a bit of political posturing. 8)
Me & Rus have this row every Thursday afternoon through the Glassblower window!
He's inside & I'm outside, obviously.
Now I’ve stirred you all up in a hornets nest I’m off on holiday today so argue amongst yourselves while I’m on a sunny beach !! CasRus has left the Glassblower Building but... speak soon !!

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Post by WF10 » 11 Sep 2019, 14:31

He's prorogued the thread! Undemocratic!

Don't forget your (blue) passport.
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Post by WF10 » 12 Sep 2019, 07:12

WF10 wrote:Ahem...
Still waiting...

What are the benefits of a no deal Brexit for people throughout the UK?

In what specific ways would a no deal Brexit improve the everyday lives of people living in: Newry, Glasgow, Newcastle, Liverpool, Hull, Ipswich, Swansea?
You can add Castleford to the list of places too if you like.

If anyone could be so kind as to give me an answer?

Thanks in advance.
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https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ns_CDL.pdf
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Post by alftupper » 14 Sep 2019, 14:05

Enjoy your holiday CasRus! No doubt our two reds despise you for going and not donating all your remaining disposable income on restocking your nearest food bank just as I’m sure as true socialist they do

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Post by alftupper » 14 Sep 2019, 14:06

WF10 wrote:
WF10 wrote:Ahem...
Still waiting...

What are the benefits of a no deal Brexit for people throughout the UK?

In what specific ways would a no deal Brexit improve the everyday lives of people living in: Newry, Glasgow, Newcastle, Liverpool, Hull, Ipswich, Swansea?
You can add Castleford to the list of places too if you like.

If anyone could be so kind as to give me an answer?

Thanks in advance.
Oh...
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ns_CDL.pdf
now can we have a report on the best case scenario please?

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Post by WF10 » 15 Sep 2019, 12:24

I've repeatedly asked for that from you.

Fire away...
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Post by thedogvinnie » 16 Sep 2019, 08:47

Well that was fun, i say to all those Tory loving tw@s, just look at Castleford and the surrounding areas, ask yourselves who is responsible for the state of the town, even with your myopia you cannot fail to see the result of Tory mismanagement, even today Labour constituencies are being deprived council funding while their Tory counterparts are not being squeezed at all ( I live in Scarborough with its new swimming pool/sports centre while my hometown has nothing)
Either some contributers to this debate are just pretending to support the Tories or they are in dire need of psychiatric help (will have to go private though)

As for UKIP and the Brexit company, grow the [REMOVED] up you idiots, you have fallen for the Tory divide and rule trick again

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Post by CasRus » 16 Sep 2019, 09:11

So, where the f..k was Labour supporting Castleford in the Blair Years eh !!!

Don't blame the Tories for everything when Blair and Brown were in power snd left the coffers empty and Castleford had sod all to show for a long Labour stint in power !!

You lot make me laugh !! Castleford has been Labour controlled for how many years and its a sh.th..le !!

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Post by thedogvinnie » 16 Sep 2019, 11:35

CasRus wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 09:11 So, where the f..k was Labour supporting Castleford in the Blair Years eh !!!

Don't blame the Tories for everything when Blair and Brown were in power snd left the coffers empty and Castleford had sod all to show for a long Labour stint in power !!

You lot make me laugh !! Castleford has been Labour controlled for how many years and its a sh.th..le !!
You are showing yourself up, Blair was "new labour" an million miles away from traditional Labour, in fact Thatcher said new labour was he greatest achievement, so lets be honest and call then Tory lite. As for the coffers being empty, that again was disproved by the governer general of the bank of England, but you obviously know more than him

As for Cas being Labour controlled, again you show a level of stupidity usually reserved for wakey supporters, every council requires government funding and it is a fact that the Tories are deliberately underfunding every council they do not control, you will be aware of that but it doesnt suit your agenda does it, therefor the damage being done to local communities is caused by this underfunding. Its not hard to understand, once you get your head out of the Sun or Mail.


I pity you mate, really genuinely pity you. I can only hope you are fishing and not in the least serious

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Post by thedogvinnie » 16 Sep 2019, 11:38

alftupper wrote: 14 Sep 2019, 14:06
WF10 wrote:
WF10 wrote:Ahem...
Still waiting...

What are the benefits of a no deal Brexit for people throughout the UK?

In what specific ways would a no deal Brexit improve the everyday lives of people living in: Newry, Glasgow, Newcastle, Liverpool, Hull, Ipswich, Swansea?
You can add Castleford to the list of places too if you like.

If anyone could be so kind as to give me an answer?

Thanks in advance.
Oh...
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ns_CDL.pdf
now can we have a report on the best case scenario please?
The best case scenario is that we remain, bojo gets jailed for lying and we get a socialist goverment. Simple isnt it? even you should understand

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Post by CasRus » 16 Sep 2019, 12:59

thedogvinnie wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 11:35
CasRus wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 09:11 So, where the f..k was Labour supporting Castleford in the Blair Years eh !!!

Don't blame the Tories for everything when Blair and Brown were in power snd left the coffers empty and Castleford had sod all to show for a long Labour stint in power !!

You lot make me laugh !! Castleford has been Labour controlled for how many years and its a sh.th..le !!
You are showing yourself up, Blair was "new labour" an million miles away from traditional Labour, in fact Thatcher said new labour was he greatest achievement, so lets be honest and call then Tory lite. As for the coffers being empty, that again was disproved by the governer general of the bank of England, but you obviously know more than him

As for Cas being Labour controlled, again you show a level of stupidity usually reserved for wakey supporters, every council requires government funding and it is a fact that the Tories are deliberately underfunding every council they do not control, you will be aware of that but it doesnt suit your agenda does it, therefor the damage being done to local communities is caused by this underfunding. Its not hard to understand, once you get your head out of the Sun or Mail.


I pity you mate, really genuinely pity you. I can only hope you are fishing and not in the least serious
So, Now you are making it up as you go - Labour is Labour so stop trying to wriggle out and by the way your Labour controlled bias council have spent more money in Wakefield than poor relation Cas and that ain’t right either !! Labour when they were in power disks not improve Cas one iota so stop banging on about it being all the fault of the Tories as you are utterly wrong !! The blame game has 2 sides of a coin to consider !

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Post by thedogvinnie » 16 Sep 2019, 13:58

CasRus wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 12:59
thedogvinnie wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 11:35
CasRus wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 09:11 So, where the f..k was Labour supporting Castleford in the Blair Years eh !!!

Don't blame the Tories for everything when Blair and Brown were in power snd left the coffers empty and Castleford had sod all to show for a long Labour stint in power !!

You lot make me laugh !! Castleford has been Labour controlled for how many years and its a sh.th..le !!
You are showing yourself up, Blair was "new labour" an million miles away from traditional Labour, in fact Thatcher said new labour was he greatest achievement, so lets be honest and call then Tory lite. As for the coffers being empty, that again was disproved by the governer general of the bank of England, but you obviously know more than him

As for Cas being Labour controlled, again you show a level of stupidity usually reserved for wakey supporters, every council requires government funding and it is a fact that the Tories are deliberately underfunding every council they do not control, you will be aware of that but it doesnt suit your agenda does it, therefor the damage being done to local communities is caused by this underfunding. Its not hard to understand, once you get your head out of the Sun or Mail.


I pity you mate, really genuinely pity you. I can only hope you are fishing and not in the least serious
So, Now you are making it up as you go - Labour is Labour so stop trying to wriggle out and by the way your Labour controlled bias council have spent more money in Wakefield than poor relation Cas and that ain’t right either !! Labour when they were in power disks not improve Cas one iota so stop banging on about it being all the fault of the Tories as you are utterly wrong !! The blame game has 2 sides of a coin to consider !
I just knew you would react like that to the truth, the truth hurts sun readers like you doesnt it?

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Post by CasRus » 16 Sep 2019, 22:13

thedogvinnie wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 13:58
CasRus wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 12:59
thedogvinnie wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 11:35
CasRus wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 09:11 So, where the f..k was Labour supporting Castleford in the Blair Years eh !!!

Don't blame the Tories for everything when Blair and Brown were in power snd left the coffers empty and Castleford had sod all to show for a long Labour stint in power !!

You lot make me laugh !! Castleford has been Labour controlled for how many years and its a sh.th..le !!
You are showing yourself up, Blair was "new labour" an million miles away from traditional Labour, in fact Thatcher said new labour was he greatest achievement, so lets be honest and call then Tory lite. As for the coffers being empty, that again was disproved by the governer general of the bank of England, but you obviously know more than him

As for Cas being Labour controlled, again you show a level of stupidity usually reserved for wakey supporters, every council requires government funding and it is a fact that the Tories are deliberately underfunding every council they do not control, you will be aware of that but it doesnt suit your agenda does it, therefor the damage being done to local communities is caused by this underfunding. Its not hard to understand, once you get your head out of the Sun or Mail.


I pity you mate, really genuinely pity you. I can only hope you are fishing and not in the least serious
So, Now you are making it up as you go - Labour is Labour so stop trying to wriggle out and by the way your Labour controlled bias council have spent more money in Wakefield than poor relation Cas and that ain’t right either !! Labour when they were in power disks not improve Cas one iota so stop banging on about it being all the fault of the Tories as you are utterly wrong !! The blame game has 2 sides of a coin to consider !
I just knew you would react like that to the truth, the truth hurts sun readers like you doesnt it?
F me ! If all that’s what you can come back with then I can say that RetroTruth more than reflects back on what you have stated and hurts more doesn’t it and by the way I would not read that comic “The Sun” in a million years which was always Labour orientated and now sides on the majority on the democratic people’s vote and not really Tory aspirations !!

Let me ask you a question. “ if you think Tories plug more money into supporting Tory supporting areas than Labour then why didn’t you support your local Tory in the past ? If you want Tory’s to support you then support your local Tory to gain more money into the Cas area as let’s face it, Labour has not done much favour for Cas in the last 50 years and all you lot do is moan and groan about your lot in life - if it’s not working then change your affiliation or Are you one of those people that’s kicked in the nuts forever and a day and then ask for more ! Now that’s what I call Brain Dead !! Now you did say Tories support Tory areas so it becomes a common seabed no brainier for me as to what you need to do to get Tories to flood money into the Cas area as why would anyone want to support an area that votes against you !!

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Hahaha!!

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Hulk sad.
Hulk run away.
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Post by thedogvinnie » 17 Sep 2019, 07:53

CasRus wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 22:13
thedogvinnie wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 13:58
CasRus wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 12:59
thedogvinnie wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 11:35
CasRus wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 09:11 So, where the f..k was Labour supporting Castleford in the Blair Years eh !!!

Don't blame the Tories for everything when Blair and Brown were in power snd left the coffers empty and Castleford had sod all to show for a long Labour stint in power !!

You lot make me laugh !! Castleford has been Labour controlled for how many years and its a sh.th..le !!
You are showing yourself up, Blair was "new labour" an million miles away from traditional Labour, in fact Thatcher said new labour was he greatest achievement, so lets be honest and call then Tory lite. As for the coffers being empty, that again was disproved by the governer general of the bank of England, but you obviously know more than him

As for Cas being Labour controlled, again you show a level of stupidity usually reserved for wakey supporters, every council requires government funding and it is a fact that the Tories are deliberately underfunding every council they do not control, you will be aware of that but it doesnt suit your agenda does it, therefor the damage being done to local communities is caused by this underfunding. Its not hard to understand, once you get your head out of the Sun or Mail.


I pity you mate, really genuinely pity you. I can only hope you are fishing and not in the least serious
So, Now you are making it up as you go - Labour is Labour so stop trying to wriggle out and by the way your Labour controlled bias council have spent more money in Wakefield than poor relation Cas and that ain’t right either !! Labour when they were in power disks not improve Cas one iota so stop banging on about it being all the fault of the Tories as you are utterly wrong !! The blame game has 2 sides of a coin to consider !
I just knew you would react like that to the truth, the truth hurts sun readers like you doesnt it?
F me ! If all that’s what you can come back with then I can say that RetroTruth more than reflects back on what you have stated and hurts more doesn’t it and by the way I would not read that comic “The Sun” in a million years which was always Labour orientated and now sides on the majority on the democratic people’s vote and not really Tory aspirations !!

Let me ask you a question. “ if you think Tories plug more money into supporting Tory supporting areas than Labour then why didn’t you support your local Tory in the past ? If you want Tory’s to support you then support your local Tory to gain more money into the Cas area as let’s face it, Labour has not done much favour for Cas in the last 50 years and all you lot do is moan and groan about your lot in life - if it’s not working then change your affiliation or Are you one of those people that’s kicked in the nuts forever and a day and then ask for more ! Now that’s what I call Brain Dead !! Now you did say Tories support Tory areas so it becomes a common seabed no brainier for me as to what you need to do to get Tories to flood money into the Cas area as why would anyone want to support an area that votes against you !!
The difference between me and the Tories (including yourself) is that I have a social conscience, I help at the local food bank, you scoff at yours.
I am happy with my lot in life but i care about others, you care about yourself only and taunt the unfortunate.
You may support the Tories but the sad thing is, when they cannot extract any more from the poor sods they are targeting now, they will move on to the foolish who follow them, you are not public school educated, you are not "old money" and that makes you a target, you know it deep down but are hoping the cull on the homelesss, disabled, elderly and poor will continue just long enough so you will be gone before their sights are on you.
There is no hope for you, the Sun and Mail have done their job.
I will leave you to the rest, I prefer to talk to people who can at least form their own opinions and not follow Murdoch blindly.
You still have my pity

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Post by thedogvinnie » 17 Sep 2019, 07:55

thedogvinnie wrote: 17 Sep 2019, 07:53
CasRus wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 22:13
thedogvinnie wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 13:58
CasRus wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 12:59
thedogvinnie wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 11:35

You are showing yourself up, Blair was "new labour" an million miles away from traditional Labour, in fact Thatcher said new labour was he greatest achievement, so lets be honest and call then Tory lite. As for the coffers being empty, that again was disproved by the governer general of the bank of England, but you obviously know more than him

As for Cas being Labour controlled, again you show a level of stupidity usually reserved for wakey supporters, every council requires government funding and it is a fact that the Tories are deliberately underfunding every council they do not control, you will be aware of that but it doesnt suit your agenda does it, therefor the damage being done to local communities is caused by this underfunding. Its not hard to understand, once you get your head out of the Sun or Mail.


I pity you mate, really genuinely pity you. I can only hope you are fishing and not in the least serious
So, Now you are making it up as you go - Labour is Labour so stop trying to wriggle out and by the way your Labour controlled bias council have spent more money in Wakefield than poor relation Cas and that ain’t right either !! Labour when they were in power disks not improve Cas one iota so stop banging on about it being all the fault of the Tories as you are utterly wrong !! The blame game has 2 sides of a coin to consider !
I just knew you would react like that to the truth, the truth hurts sun readers like you doesnt it?
F me ! If all that’s what you can come back with then I can say that RetroTruth more than reflects back on what you have stated and hurts more doesn’t it and by the way I would not read that comic “The Sun” in a million years which was always Labour orientated and now sides on the majority on the democratic people’s vote and not really Tory aspirations !!

Let me ask you a question. “ if you think Tories plug more money into supporting Tory supporting areas than Labour then why didn’t you support your local Tory in the past ? If you want Tory’s to support you then support your local Tory to gain more money into the Cas area as let’s face it, Labour has not done much favour for Cas in the last 50 years and all you lot do is moan and groan about your lot in life - if it’s not working then change your affiliation or Are you one of those people that’s kicked in the nuts forever and a day and then ask for more ! Now that’s what I call Brain Dead !! Now you did say Tories support Tory areas so it becomes a common seabed no brainier for me as to what you need to do to get Tories to flood money into the Cas area as why would anyone want to support an area that votes against you !!
The difference between me and the Tories (including yourself) is that I have a social conscience, I help at the local food bank, you scoff at yours.
I am happy with my lot in life but i care about others, you care about yourself only and taunt the unfortunate.
You may support the Tories but the sad thing is, when they cannot extract any more from the poor sods they are targeting now, they will move on to the foolish who follow them, you are not public school educated, you are not "old money" and that makes you a target, you know it deep down but are hoping the cull on the homelesss, disabled, elderly and poor will continue just long enough so you will be gone before their sights are on you.
There is no hope for you, the Sun and Mail have done their job.
I will leave you to the rest, I prefer to talk to people who can at least form their own opinions and not follow Murdoch blindly.
You still have my pity
By the way, it is governments job to look after the whole nation, not just those who voted them in, that just about sums up the difference between Labour and your neo nazi Tory party.

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