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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by Flat Capper » 26 Mar 2020, 19:02

alftupper wrote: 26 Mar 2020, 18:12 I have to say I’ve been very impressed with Rishi Sunak since becoming Chancellor.

PM in waiting?
I would happily have him in place of the bumbling baffoon you keep blindly supporting.

I actually believe he (Sunak) is doing all he can and a system for the self-employed is bound to be complex which is why I suspect it won't be effective until June. Sadly, this could mean thousands continue to go to work when they should be stopping at home.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by Flat Capper » 26 Mar 2020, 19:15

alftupper wrote: 26 Mar 2020, 14:44
nottinghamtiger wrote: 26 Mar 2020, 09:52
alftupper wrote: 26 Mar 2020, 08:40 I have total confidence that the Conservatives will defeat this enemy just as they have done our other enemies over the last 100 years in miners.
I spy something fishing for a reaction!
Miners aren’t the only people to go on strike as a result of a Conservative policies. Let’s not forget that we’ve also had a recent NHS strike as a result of Tory policy (the very people now on the front line) and two teachers’ strikes as a result of Tory policy (now the ones caring for the children of critical workers during this national emergency).
I have every confidence in our medical experts to limit the impact of Coronavirus as much as is possible. But this isn’t party-political.
The 1984-85 strike was incomparable to the recent strikes that you mention. It was about a man hell bent on bringing down a democratically elected government and he was aided by thousands of foot soldiers stopping people trying to go about their working day through intimidation. Scargill was the enemy within facilitated by an army of militants, thank god the PM he was up against was the Iron Lady.
Wow, your blinkers are tighter than I thought.

At the end of the day, the miners well left high and dry by both sides but the vast majority of them were fighting for not only their livelyhoods but also their lives. I would agree that Scargill exploited this for his own means but it doesn't detract from the fact the miners were right to fight.

How many countries continue to invest in the mining industry?

Whatever the heartless bitch's plan's were during the strike, she should have provided better support for the mining communties as she closed the pits.

The devestation in areas like ours is obvious for all to see and if it hadn't been for EU funding, the likes of the Five towns would already be ghost towns.

Still. I'm sure you still knock one out when you think about what she did to us.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by alftupper » 26 Mar 2020, 19:35

Flat Capper wrote: 26 Mar 2020, 19:15
How many countries continue to invest in the mining industry?
There you go again Capper. Are you suggesting we should be doing the same? Just a few pages back you were pushing for us to become world leaders in green energy technology. How do you reconcile the two?

On second thoughts don’t even try.

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by alftupper » 26 Mar 2020, 19:51

no word of praise for the Chancellor’s announcement this evening?

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Post by Flat Capper » 27 Mar 2020, 10:23

alftupper wrote: 26 Mar 2020, 19:35
Flat Capper wrote: 26 Mar 2020, 19:15
How many countries continue to invest in the mining industry?
There you go again Capper. Are you suggesting we should be doing the same? Just a few pages back you were pushing for us to become world leaders in green energy technology. How do you reconcile the two?

On second thoughts don’t even try.
Now then Slackbladder, I was referring to the miners strike in 1984/5 when we weren't thinking about green energy. Correct support at that time would've removed our 30/40 year reliance on imports and helped the mining communities, avoiding the massive hole the Iron Bitch left behind.

And on the Chancellor's anouncement, see my post above or are your blinkers still in the way?
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by CasRus » 27 Mar 2020, 12:36

Flat Capper wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 10:23
alftupper wrote: 26 Mar 2020, 19:35
Flat Capper wrote: 26 Mar 2020, 19:15
How many countries continue to invest in the mining industry?
There you go again Capper. Are you suggesting we should be doing the same? Just a few pages back you were pushing for us to become world leaders in green energy technology. How do you reconcile the two?

On second thoughts don’t even try.
Now then Slackbladder, I was referring to the miners strike in 1984/5 when we weren't thinking about green energy. Correct support at that time would've removed our 30/40 year reliance on imports and helped the mining communities, avoiding the massive hole the Iron Bitch left behind.

And on the Chancellor's anouncement, see my post above or are your blinkers still in the way?
Constant support of the Mining Industry to present day would have cost Billions in tax support - It was 5 times cheaper to get a ton of drift mine coal from Oz than a ton mined here in the UK as I remember in the 80s.

Even the last mines left open and eventually had to shut due to unviability - - Just take Kellingley as an example - on the doorstep of 3 big power stations and many a imported coal supply train by passed the very doorstep of Kellingley to supply Eggborough Power Station !! Yes it was a bitter pill to swallow to see that happening with our miners working hard and UK coal not selling !

Every sensible person knew the UK Mining Industry was doomed apart from the miners themselves and just like other industries like the Sheffield Steel industry having to be vastly reduced and shipbuilding industries in Scotland who could not compete with Korea back in the day. Miners were not singled out and why should they have been a special case and why should they be when other industries like many engineering works lost a lot more jobs around Leeds for example over the years !

Thatcher was being a realist and saved the taxpayer billions on not supporting a "dead as a duck" industry as I see it !

A lot of my mates around Cas and Ponte lost their jobs (my brother being one). Yes it's hard and frustrating but all have gone on to gain decent enough jobs and a lot more healthier jobs by the way !

Yes there are coal industries on the go around the world which are viable - China is one but their workers are getting paid practically a bowl of rice in comparison to coal face workers here at the time earning £1,000+ a week just before Kellingley shut.

Capper, get over yourself and move on - just like the world has ! Until they find a way of making coal extraction viable and competitive in a de-sulphurised method of extraction you can argue till the cows come home but it just it won't happen until they find a way !

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by Flat Capper » 27 Mar 2020, 13:14

Missed the point once again. Have you borrowed Tuppers blinkers?

It was one thing to fail to support the mining industry, which also provided thousands of jobs in the supply chain like engineering, but it was another entirely to completely ignore te impact on the communities and leave them high and dry.

there should have been some support, as has been the case with the steel industry (I won't mention the banks yet!) and a gradual move to encouraging and supporting other industries that today would be the likes of green energy companies. This is "moving on" as you like to spout.

By the way, on the subject of moving on, are you and Slacktupper going to move on from Corbyn now or will you keep digging tat one out when it suits you?
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by alftupper » 27 Mar 2020, 13:37

Flat Capper wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 13:14 By the way, on the subject of moving on, are you and Slacktupper going to move on from Corbyn now or will you keep digging tat one out when it suits you?
You'd like that wouldn't you Crapper, move on and forget how you sang the praises of Corbyn, Abbott and co.

hard luck, I for one won't let you sweep that under the carpet.

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by alftupper » 27 Mar 2020, 13:45

I see BJ has contracted the covid-19 virus, this will cement his standing even further. Like Henry V leading from the front he has taken one leading from the front!

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alftupper wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 13:45 I see BJ has contracted the covid-19 virus, this will cement his standing even further. Like Henry V leading from the front he has taken one leading from the front!
Yes he's taken one for the team !!!

Just goes to show the difference between him and Jezza today who has now started harping on that his policies were right all along with what is going on now !!!!!

What A Plonker and Living in his own Fantasy Glory-Land and still trying to score from a situation that has come from a very unpredictable Bolt from the Blue !!

Sophie Ridge on Sunday showed him right up for what he is - He doesn't even think that what is going on to be a "needs must" one off situation costing Billions upon Billions and under normal circumstances would not stand up in any normal situation.

Jezza is Totally Deluded and needs putting out to pasture as soon as possible ! Just glad he never got into power.

Labour would have been best served (and, personally for me, to date be served) with Andy Burnham heading Labour up which is a shame he isn't standing to form a credible opposition - He's the most sensible person Labour has at the moment !

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Post by Flat Capper » 27 Mar 2020, 14:36

Move on fellas, no need for double standards.

Mind you, the fact BJ has now got the virus shows he wasn't following his own advice. That doesn't improve his standing but shows his stupidity. I can only hope he hasn't infected others although I unerstand Matt Hancock has now contracted it. Fine examples.
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Post by nottinghamtiger » 27 Mar 2020, 14:49

CasRus wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 14:28
alftupper wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 13:45 I see BJ has contracted the covid-19 virus, this will cement his standing even further. Like Henry V leading from the front he has taken one leading from the front!
Labour would have been best served (and, personally for me, to date be served) with Andy Burnham heading Labour up which is a shame he isn't standing to form a credible opposition - He's the most sensible person Labour has at the moment !
Astute politicians like Burnham will only put themselves up for leadership when they think Labour have chance of winning a general election.

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Post by nottinghamtiger » 27 Mar 2020, 14:52

Flat Capper wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 14:36 Move on fellas, no need for double standards.

Mind you, the fact BJ has now got the virus shows he wasn't following his own advice. That doesn't improve his standing but shows his stupidity. I can only hope he hasn't infected others although I unerstand Matt Hancock has now contracted it. Fine examples.
If he’s got symptoms now, he will have probably caught it 10-14 days ago. At that time, there were no restrictions or even very much advice, bar singing Happy Birthday whilst washing your hands.
You can’t blame someone for catching Covid-19. If it was so easy to avoid it, it wouldn’t be a worldwide pandemic.

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Post by Flat Capper » 27 Mar 2020, 16:40

nottinghamtiger wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 14:52
Flat Capper wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 14:36 Move on fellas, no need for double standards.

Mind you, the fact BJ has now got the virus shows he wasn't following his own advice. That doesn't improve his standing but shows his stupidity. I can only hope he hasn't infected others although I unerstand Matt Hancock has now contracted it. Fine examples.
If he’s got symptoms now, he will have probably caught it 10-14 days ago. At that time, there were no restrictions or even very much advice, bar singing Happy Birthday whilst washing your hands.
You can’t blame someone for catching Covid-19. If it was so easy to avoid it, it wouldn’t be a worldwide pandemic.
A lot of my critiscism of BJ relates to his reluctance to go for lockdown two/three weeks ago. We knew what was coming and the gov't finally accpeted that reducing people movement was vital to reducing the impact of this pandemic. The symptoms take up to 10-14 days to show but can show much sooner.

Either way, I wouldn't wish this on anyone but continue to hope everyone heads the advice, and more.
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Post by CasRus » 27 Mar 2020, 19:28

Flat Capper wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 14:36 Move on fellas, no need for double standards.

Mind you, the fact BJ has now got the virus shows he wasn't following his own advice. That doesn't improve his standing but shows his stupidity. I can only hope he hasn't infected others although I unerstand Matt Hancock has now contracted it. Fine examples.
That response is way below the belt Capper - you should be ashamed of yourself !

I don't have to explain how derogatory on Human decency is with that response is as it's plain for all to see !!

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Post by casjunction » 27 Mar 2020, 19:46

Don't venture here often.
The NHS is doing a fabulous job.
Think how much more they could have done had they not endured years of underfunding.
Had we responded more quickly we could have also procured more ventilators with our former partners in the EEU.
The virus is not prejudice attacking all.
Taje care

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casjunction wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 19:46 Don't venture here often.
The NHS is doing a fabulous job.
Think how much more they could have done had they not endured years of underfunding.
Had we responded more quickly we could have also procured more ventilators with our former partners in the EEU.
The virus is not prejudice attacking all.
Taje care
Yes you are right that the virus can strike anyone at any time and all by the way plenty of f.ckwits are still conducting themselves in our society and not heeding the call when we all had been given the decision to !

Just to highlight this, My next door neighbour has just been rushed to hospital struggling to breathe and they have put him on one of those new Dyson Ventilators.

The Good News is that he's Picking Up Nicely !!

Come On - You've got to laugh !!

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Post by Flat Capper » 27 Mar 2020, 23:43

CasRus wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 19:28
Flat Capper wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 14:36 Move on fellas, no need for double standards.

Mind you, the fact BJ has now got the virus shows he wasn't following his own advice. That doesn't improve his standing but shows his stupidity. I can only hope he hasn't infected others although I unerstand Matt Hancock has now contracted it. Fine examples.
That response is way below the belt Capper - you should be ashamed of yourself !

I don't have to explain how derogatory on Human decency is with that response is as it's plain for all to see !!
Did you leave the last sentence off purely for your own means rather than full context? You continue to describe those risking passing on the infection as f*+kwits but can't acknowledge the failings of the government.

Like I said, I wouldn't wish this on anybody and if we had reacted sooner, fewer would've been put at risk.
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Post by CasRus » 28 Mar 2020, 11:04

Flat Capper wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 23:43
CasRus wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 19:28
Flat Capper wrote: 27 Mar 2020, 14:36 Move on fellas, no need for double standards.

Mind you, the fact BJ has now got the virus shows he wasn't following his own advice. That doesn't improve his standing but shows his stupidity. I can only hope he hasn't infected others although I unerstand Matt Hancock has now contracted it. Fine examples.
That response is way below the belt Capper - you should be ashamed of yourself !

I don't have to explain how derogatory on Human decency is with that response is as it's plain for all to see !!
Did you leave the last sentence off purely for your own means rather than full context? You continue to describe those risking passing on the infection as f*+kwits but can't acknowledge the failings of the government.

Like I said, I wouldn't wish this on anybody and if we had reacted sooner, fewer would've been put at risk.
Yes well Capper, you say BJ wasn't following his own advice and shows his stupidity whereas only a number of days ago you were criticising him for not going around shaking hands with all the flood victims !!!! What a total W.nk Hypocritical argument you serve up !! Like I said you criticise BJ from whichever direction you feel and then make yourself to be a stupid idiot yourself !!!!

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Post by casjunction » 28 Mar 2020, 13:17

This is situation like none we have seen in our life times.
We face a huge challenge.
We can all play our part
Whether as key workers,
Volunteers
Or following advise.
People have many different and diverse views for me l have always believed that the NHS is the greatest thing to happen in our country and possibly the world.
Vain hope that for once even if only for now it would be good to have a break from derision, division and animosity.
Certainly seeing in some quarters.
It is what will hopefully pull us through.
Name calling certainly will not.
Can we agree to differ and leave it at that.
Stay safe.
Be kind to one anothet.
You never know when you will need someone's help.

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