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Post by thedogvinnie » 19 Sep 2019, 11:16

BJ is also slang for blow job, they both end up with a mess though , so i see the connection

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Post by CasRus » 19 Sep 2019, 11:49

thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 11:12
CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 10:32
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 07:53
CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 00:11
thedogvinnie wrote: 18 Sep 2019, 19:33

More Sun bull from tim nice but dim

Cmon tory boy, defend the tory cull and post links to prove you are not lying yet again

Cue another reading from Murdochs rag
You defend Labour from the present Tory years when Labour left a note of being nothing left in the coffers and the inevitability of austerity to make ends meet for the nation had to be implemented after the Blair Brown years (when Brown for example sold off our gold reserves for $300 an ounce - what a dummy !!) - its not f rocket science to work out the reasons as to why irrespective of what unfolded under the Tories !!

Also and presently which is more important than past history and while you are at it, you tell me what Labour under Corbyn and Thornbury statements make any sense if they are for leave or remain as they are totally under the aspiration they will get a leave deal and then call a referendum where they will call to remain !! what a total contradiction !! get out of that one if you can 11 Amateurs !! At the very least Lib Dems (the anti democrtic party against 70% of the cas population) have called that they would revoke and remain and at least we know the nature of that animal !!! Labour will be totally decimated at the polls just on plain ambiguity - it's a no brainer !!

As I see it from an area aspect per Cas and others, BJ is championing the leave vote which 70% of Cas and also other Northern areas voted for and I can take it on board that Cas being a historical Labour area for many a year sticks in the throat of voters in opting to vote Tory and based on your actual statment that Tories support Tory areas - then why don't you bring your intelligence level up to think that maybe it's time to break the mould of the past 50+ Labour years that's brought "let's face it" f al to the areal" and get behind a Tory for the area who is actually batting for this area to leave as democratically voted for by the local area and maybe the Tories will then support this area as being worth investing in as per your insinuation of Tories only supporting Tory areas ?? Or are you a stout Corbynite who prefers to cause chaos to the masses and aspire to power on "conquer and divide" principles and f the country and democracy ? No one will ever win that one and cause years of misery for you and all in the area !! Sorry for the word area being quite prominent in this last paragraph !

By the same token answer these present day questions before you go into the past which no one cannot change and both sides are arguably culpable to some extent to hardships now existing as I see it.

BJ and his team have their faults as does Corbyn/McDonnell/ Abbott/Thornbury but at least they are batting for democracy as voted by the people or are we now being lied to and have Lib Dems, and to some ambiguity Labour, vying against the voice of you/me and everyone else in a totally democratic vote !! Now that's what makes a dictatorship Comrade !!

I Know its hard to contemplate but if you don''t try you don't get !!

All I'm saying to youLabour guys is to consider an alternative view rather than being totally blinkered as to what is now going on as the shift from each personal standpoint is starting to move all over the place and let common sense prevail rather than staunch camp emplacment in being the determining factor and I'm not honestly not trying to be impressing onto you but you need to think clearly as we al have our own brain to work out common sense principles !

We are all guilty (me included) on this post of being hard hitting in anger against each other but if all can step back and take a breath and consider certain grumbles for each side ( I do take on board, for example, your point outs of tax issues of companies and rich individuals who are dodging tax and needs sorting and I would advocate the mid to high tax earners paying an extra levy of tax while Brexit is implemented in the next 3 years only to overcome transition and I would personally gladly pay extra for the benefit of all in the UK as should other mid/high tax earners - if I was not of that opinion and looking after myself I would be a staunch remainer but I think this country and it's young people could be in a much better and richer future by leaving and I would gladly assist to the tax requirement at a higher level).

Now that's me - heart on my sleeve !! But if you want to blow up the country with Corbyn be my guest as it really doesnt matter to me at all as I will definitely survive and prosper more but I would rather assist !!

I'm sure you will be coming back on this one as "look at that soft Tory boy post which I am expecting by the way" but only time will tell and I personally think Corbyn and Labour will be destroyed in the next election - and that's not to rile you guys up as its my own personal prediction in whats playing out just now but let's wait and see and as to whether I can say "Told You So" or "Caboom Baby" if I want to hard hit you all like you would do me ...ha ha !!

All Politicians have their faults and BJ has a number also which we all know about, but at least he is the one who is true to the side of democracy per peoples voice referendum and you won't ever convince me otherwise per 17.4 Million who attest to that ! And he has Plans for the Northern Powerhouse transport system and a wacky bridge from Scotland to Ireland - never say never as it might just happen !!! who knows !! At least he is making Northern moves rather than south for a change !!
Oh dear, as usual you refuse to defend taking food from children, taking pensions from the working classes, selling off the NHS, Universal credit suicides and the rest but you quote democracy, What a joke.
Yor party love democracy so much that they bend the rules every time they are in power, Thatcher did it, Camoron tried but couldnt even get that done, you know of course i am on about boundary changes to try and weaken Labour strongholds, You quote democracy but have an unelected leader, well elected by 100k blue rinse nut jobs.
You quote democracy in respect of Brexit but refuse to realise that after 3 and 1/2 the result is void.
We have general elections every so many years to reflect the change in populace ie deaths and people reaching voting age, why is it not relevant in the brexit vote?
You quote democracy and say you care about the young people in society but you want to deny all the kids who have reached voting age since the referendum the chance to play your democracy game. In short, like all Tories you are a Joke, a big fat self serving joke.

On to Brexit, Its all [REMOVED], Brexit was only ever about the rich protecting what they have, its never been owt to do with us plebs. Is it really a fluke that Brexit came about just as the EU announced new offshore account rules and the closing of tax loopholes???

The old tory divide and rule trick has worked again

As for Johnson, A proven LIAR, how did we end up with a coward (he ran away in luxemberg) and a liar in the top job, the answer is simple, as Ken Clarke put it, only a nutter would want to firefight the [REMOVED] caused by Cameron and May

Now instead of all the hand wringing tell me why it so important to inflict pain, misery and death on so many people just to protect the wealth of a few

Defend the homeless dying on the streets (another Tory success)

Oh and while we are here lets hear the caring Tory response to the UN report on child poverty in the UK, Bojo and chums have hidden that away havent they.
caring sharing tories my ar$e
You are very and conveniently brilliant to hand pick failings on the Tory side but ignore your Labour failings altogether and then have the audacity to say oh it was New Labour when you and your mates choose to do so - Labour is Labour and it was they that kicked off the dodgy dossier which has led to the murder of thousands of innocents in the Middle East in the bombings by us and the USA, brought terror onto the streets inside the UK, dodgy suicide claims with Dr, David Kelly who was allegedly about to blow the whistle on your Party in power at the time and have given rise to endless terror groups still in existence today. Now this totally dwarfs your hand picked allegations by a country mile !!!

The referendum was made 3 years ago and just like all those kids before when the common market was the forerunner, you just can't set an acceptance in the first instance and then want to bring in a second referendum on this occasion for under the age of voting to have a say as the kids in the seventiea also never got a chance to have a second referendum - do we have a referendum every 3 years just for the kids who may want to have a dictate and a say when they were under to vote on the last occasion - That my friend is absolute nuts !!

Anyway thank god Your illustrious Leader didn't get in last time as he was Praising the model of Venezuelawho he wanted to follow closely and look where that has ended - A "down the pan" basket case with massive food shortages and lots of people dying of starvation on its streets and NO hospitals to be geared up to deal with it !!So when you laud Labour just think about where we could now have been before you harp on about the Tories !!

You just keep singing La La La with your ears covered and like I have mentioned as my prediction earlier when the coming election arrives, I am expecting you lot to form an orderly queue in Carlton Street with your trousers neatly folded over your right arm and all bent over ready to receive a huge shafting when the electorate drop you lot like a hot potato and finish up as a lesser party trailing the Lib Dems !

Also, you still remain ambiguous on saying it's a Tory plot for us to leave when most of Cas have voted to come out and that very rich Tory John major is fighting like mad amongst other rich Toires to stay !!! Just don't get you matey as your argument is utter b.ll.cks !!
Wow, you do hate the truth dont you, Even that evil bitch Thatcher said that tony (failed tory candidate) Bliar was her greatest achievement.
Venezuela as you most probably know have been pushed into that position by your friend Trump and his illegal (under UN rules) sanctions, all because they cannot have a socialist regime working can they.

Back to the UN and its condemnation of tory rule and child poverty in the UK, you skirted that one again, just as you keep skirting every other question about the tories cull of the elderly, homeless, disabled and the universal credit suicides.
Yours is a typical "Im all right Jack attitude gleaned from Rupert Murdochs manual (Sun) on how to be a total tory lapdog

Will you ever answer the questions about the Tory achievements , deaths, etc

To quote you "A "down the pan" basket case with massive food shortages and lots of people dying of starvation on its streets and NO hospitals to be geared up to deal with it !!" sounds just like the tory dream, not for them but for the working class, of which no doubt you are one.

as you said, I have my opinions and you have Rupert Murdochs opinions, dressed up as your own.

I will ask you once more. can you justify taking school meals away from poor kids? can you justify people dying homeless on the streets? can you justify suicides because of universal credit? can you justify the level of child poverty in the country? can you justify the sell of of the NHS? can you justify the state pension thefts from women and men?

CAN YOU?
DO YOU EVEN CARE?

Please no more quotations from the Sun, Mail or BBC, lets have your thoughts this time
Like I've already and endlessly stated, when a previous government leaves the coffers bone dry (Labour), then there's only so much you can do so don't put all the blame on the Tories as you keep insisting on !

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Post by CasRus » 19 Sep 2019, 11:52

thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 11:16 BJ is also slang for blow job, they both end up with a mess though , so i see the connection

Ha Ha Ha !! Very Funny ! what a comic you are !! I hope you stick to your day job as if you turn professional I hope you can get used to Tumbleweed blowing through your performances !!

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Post by thedogvinnie » 19 Sep 2019, 12:58

CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 11:49
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 11:12
CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 10:32
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 07:53
CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 00:11

You defend Labour from the present Tory years when Labour left a note of being nothing left in the coffers and the inevitability of austerity to make ends meet for the nation had to be implemented after the Blair Brown years (when Brown for example sold off our gold reserves for $300 an ounce - what a dummy !!) - its not f rocket science to work out the reasons as to why irrespective of what unfolded under the Tories !!

Also and presently which is more important than past history and while you are at it, you tell me what Labour under Corbyn and Thornbury statements make any sense if they are for leave or remain as they are totally under the aspiration they will get a leave deal and then call a referendum where they will call to remain !! what a total contradiction !! get out of that one if you can 11 Amateurs !! At the very least Lib Dems (the anti democrtic party against 70% of the cas population) have called that they would revoke and remain and at least we know the nature of that animal !!! Labour will be totally decimated at the polls just on plain ambiguity - it's a no brainer !!

As I see it from an area aspect per Cas and others, BJ is championing the leave vote which 70% of Cas and also other Northern areas voted for and I can take it on board that Cas being a historical Labour area for many a year sticks in the throat of voters in opting to vote Tory and based on your actual statment that Tories support Tory areas - then why don't you bring your intelligence level up to think that maybe it's time to break the mould of the past 50+ Labour years that's brought "let's face it" f al to the areal" and get behind a Tory for the area who is actually batting for this area to leave as democratically voted for by the local area and maybe the Tories will then support this area as being worth investing in as per your insinuation of Tories only supporting Tory areas ?? Or are you a stout Corbynite who prefers to cause chaos to the masses and aspire to power on "conquer and divide" principles and f the country and democracy ? No one will ever win that one and cause years of misery for you and all in the area !! Sorry for the word area being quite prominent in this last paragraph !

By the same token answer these present day questions before you go into the past which no one cannot change and both sides are arguably culpable to some extent to hardships now existing as I see it.

BJ and his team have their faults as does Corbyn/McDonnell/ Abbott/Thornbury but at least they are batting for democracy as voted by the people or are we now being lied to and have Lib Dems, and to some ambiguity Labour, vying against the voice of you/me and everyone else in a totally democratic vote !! Now that's what makes a dictatorship Comrade !!

I Know its hard to contemplate but if you don''t try you don't get !!

All I'm saying to youLabour guys is to consider an alternative view rather than being totally blinkered as to what is now going on as the shift from each personal standpoint is starting to move all over the place and let common sense prevail rather than staunch camp emplacment in being the determining factor and I'm not honestly not trying to be impressing onto you but you need to think clearly as we al have our own brain to work out common sense principles !

We are all guilty (me included) on this post of being hard hitting in anger against each other but if all can step back and take a breath and consider certain grumbles for each side ( I do take on board, for example, your point outs of tax issues of companies and rich individuals who are dodging tax and needs sorting and I would advocate the mid to high tax earners paying an extra levy of tax while Brexit is implemented in the next 3 years only to overcome transition and I would personally gladly pay extra for the benefit of all in the UK as should other mid/high tax earners - if I was not of that opinion and looking after myself I would be a staunch remainer but I think this country and it's young people could be in a much better and richer future by leaving and I would gladly assist to the tax requirement at a higher level).

Now that's me - heart on my sleeve !! But if you want to blow up the country with Corbyn be my guest as it really doesnt matter to me at all as I will definitely survive and prosper more but I would rather assist !!

I'm sure you will be coming back on this one as "look at that soft Tory boy post which I am expecting by the way" but only time will tell and I personally think Corbyn and Labour will be destroyed in the next election - and that's not to rile you guys up as its my own personal prediction in whats playing out just now but let's wait and see and as to whether I can say "Told You So" or "Caboom Baby" if I want to hard hit you all like you would do me ...ha ha !!

All Politicians have their faults and BJ has a number also which we all know about, but at least he is the one who is true to the side of democracy per peoples voice referendum and you won't ever convince me otherwise per 17.4 Million who attest to that ! And he has Plans for the Northern Powerhouse transport system and a wacky bridge from Scotland to Ireland - never say never as it might just happen !!! who knows !! At least he is making Northern moves rather than south for a change !!
Oh dear, as usual you refuse to defend taking food from children, taking pensions from the working classes, selling off the NHS, Universal credit suicides and the rest but you quote democracy, What a joke.
Yor party love democracy so much that they bend the rules every time they are in power, Thatcher did it, Camoron tried but couldnt even get that done, you know of course i am on about boundary changes to try and weaken Labour strongholds, You quote democracy but have an unelected leader, well elected by 100k blue rinse nut jobs.
You quote democracy in respect of Brexit but refuse to realise that after 3 and 1/2 the result is void.
We have general elections every so many years to reflect the change in populace ie deaths and people reaching voting age, why is it not relevant in the brexit vote?
You quote democracy and say you care about the young people in society but you want to deny all the kids who have reached voting age since the referendum the chance to play your democracy game. In short, like all Tories you are a Joke, a big fat self serving joke.

On to Brexit, Its all [REMOVED], Brexit was only ever about the rich protecting what they have, its never been owt to do with us plebs. Is it really a fluke that Brexit came about just as the EU announced new offshore account rules and the closing of tax loopholes???

The old tory divide and rule trick has worked again

As for Johnson, A proven LIAR, how did we end up with a coward (he ran away in luxemberg) and a liar in the top job, the answer is simple, as Ken Clarke put it, only a nutter would want to firefight the [REMOVED] caused by Cameron and May

Now instead of all the hand wringing tell me why it so important to inflict pain, misery and death on so many people just to protect the wealth of a few

Defend the homeless dying on the streets (another Tory success)

Oh and while we are here lets hear the caring Tory response to the UN report on child poverty in the UK, Bojo and chums have hidden that away havent they.
caring sharing tories my ar$e
You are very and conveniently brilliant to hand pick failings on the Tory side but ignore your Labour failings altogether and then have the audacity to say oh it was New Labour when you and your mates choose to do so - Labour is Labour and it was they that kicked off the dodgy dossier which has led to the murder of thousands of innocents in the Middle East in the bombings by us and the USA, brought terror onto the streets inside the UK, dodgy suicide claims with Dr, David Kelly who was allegedly about to blow the whistle on your Party in power at the time and have given rise to endless terror groups still in existence today. Now this totally dwarfs your hand picked allegations by a country mile !!!

The referendum was made 3 years ago and just like all those kids before when the common market was the forerunner, you just can't set an acceptance in the first instance and then want to bring in a second referendum on this occasion for under the age of voting to have a say as the kids in the seventiea also never got a chance to have a second referendum - do we have a referendum every 3 years just for the kids who may want to have a dictate and a say when they were under to vote on the last occasion - That my friend is absolute nuts !!

Anyway thank god Your illustrious Leader didn't get in last time as he was Praising the model of Venezuelawho he wanted to follow closely and look where that has ended - A "down the pan" basket case with massive food shortages and lots of people dying of starvation on its streets and NO hospitals to be geared up to deal with it !!So when you laud Labour just think about where we could now have been before you harp on about the Tories !!

You just keep singing La La La with your ears covered and like I have mentioned as my prediction earlier when the coming election arrives, I am expecting you lot to form an orderly queue in Carlton Street with your trousers neatly folded over your right arm and all bent over ready to receive a huge shafting when the electorate drop you lot like a hot potato and finish up as a lesser party trailing the Lib Dems !

Also, you still remain ambiguous on saying it's a Tory plot for us to leave when most of Cas have voted to come out and that very rich Tory John major is fighting like mad amongst other rich Toires to stay !!! Just don't get you matey as your argument is utter b.ll.cks !!
Wow, you do hate the truth dont you, Even that evil bitch Thatcher said that tony (failed tory candidate) Bliar was her greatest achievement.
Venezuela as you most probably know have been pushed into that position by your friend Trump and his illegal (under UN rules) sanctions, all because they cannot have a socialist regime working can they.

Back to the UN and its condemnation of tory rule and child poverty in the UK, you skirted that one again, just as you keep skirting every other question about the tories cull of the elderly, homeless, disabled and the universal credit suicides.
Yours is a typical "Im all right Jack attitude gleaned from Rupert Murdochs manual (Sun) on how to be a total tory lapdog

Will you ever answer the questions about the Tory achievements , deaths, etc

To quote you "A "down the pan" basket case with massive food shortages and lots of people dying of starvation on its streets and NO hospitals to be geared up to deal with it !!" sounds just like the tory dream, not for them but for the working class, of which no doubt you are one.

as you said, I have my opinions and you have Rupert Murdochs opinions, dressed up as your own.

I will ask you once more. can you justify taking school meals away from poor kids? can you justify people dying homeless on the streets? can you justify suicides because of universal credit? can you justify the level of child poverty in the country? can you justify the sell of of the NHS? can you justify the state pension thefts from women and men?

CAN YOU?
DO YOU EVEN CARE?

Please no more quotations from the Sun, Mail or BBC, lets have your thoughts this time
Like I've already and endlessly stated, when a previous government leaves the coffers bone dry (Labour), then there's only so much you can do so don't put all the blame on the Tories as you keep insisting on !
you have endlessly sidestepped the questions, are you feeling guilty that you support such an evil political party, one that is prepared to let children in this country starve and live in poverty,
one that sees profit over people and cant wait to divvy up the NHS,
one that accepts pension theft as good economic policy and you still blame labour.
Lets go further back than Tory Blair then and blame the real villain in post war UK politics, Thatcher, if she hadnt sold and closed all our industry just to line the pockets of the few, this country would still be Great Britain.

Thats another truth you will not like.

I suppose Churchill is another of your heroes because he ordered striking welsh workers to be shot by the army

Serious question..... Are you proud of this governments record??? all of it including the deaths

ANSWER THIS OR DO NOT REPLY AT ALL

Once a Tory always an uncaring liar.

Enjoy your BJ

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Post by WF10 » 19 Sep 2019, 13:04

thedogvinnie wrote: 18 Sep 2019, 19:33

Venezuela as you most probably know have been pushed into that position by your friend Trump and his illegal (under UN rules) sanctions, all because they cannot have a socialist regime working can they.
Don’t forget Obama - he imposed sanctions on Venezuela in 2015 saying they were an "unusual and extraordinary threat to the U.S. National Security."

The various U.S. sanctions have caused economic losses to Venezuela of at least US$130 billion since 2014.

Staggering.
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Post by CasRus » 19 Sep 2019, 13:27

thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 12:58
CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 11:49
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 11:12
CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 10:32
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 07:53

Oh dear, as usual you refuse to defend taking food from children, taking pensions from the working classes, selling off the NHS, Universal credit suicides and the rest but you quote democracy, What a joke.
Yor party love democracy so much that they bend the rules every time they are in power, Thatcher did it, Camoron tried but couldnt even get that done, you know of course i am on about boundary changes to try and weaken Labour strongholds, You quote democracy but have an unelected leader, well elected by 100k blue rinse nut jobs.
You quote democracy in respect of Brexit but refuse to realise that after 3 and 1/2 the result is void.
We have general elections every so many years to reflect the change in populace ie deaths and people reaching voting age, why is it not relevant in the brexit vote?
You quote democracy and say you care about the young people in society but you want to deny all the kids who have reached voting age since the referendum the chance to play your democracy game. In short, like all Tories you are a Joke, a big fat self serving joke.

On to Brexit, Its all [REMOVED], Brexit was only ever about the rich protecting what they have, its never been owt to do with us plebs. Is it really a fluke that Brexit came about just as the EU announced new offshore account rules and the closing of tax loopholes???

The old tory divide and rule trick has worked again

As for Johnson, A proven LIAR, how did we end up with a coward (he ran away in luxemberg) and a liar in the top job, the answer is simple, as Ken Clarke put it, only a nutter would want to firefight the [REMOVED] caused by Cameron and May

Now instead of all the hand wringing tell me why it so important to inflict pain, misery and death on so many people just to protect the wealth of a few

Defend the homeless dying on the streets (another Tory success)

Oh and while we are here lets hear the caring Tory response to the UN report on child poverty in the UK, Bojo and chums have hidden that away havent they.
caring sharing tories my ar$e
You are very and conveniently brilliant to hand pick failings on the Tory side but ignore your Labour failings altogether and then have the audacity to say oh it was New Labour when you and your mates choose to do so - Labour is Labour and it was they that kicked off the dodgy dossier which has led to the murder of thousands of innocents in the Middle East in the bombings by us and the USA, brought terror onto the streets inside the UK, dodgy suicide claims with Dr, David Kelly who was allegedly about to blow the whistle on your Party in power at the time and have given rise to endless terror groups still in existence today. Now this totally dwarfs your hand picked allegations by a country mile !!!

The referendum was made 3 years ago and just like all those kids before when the common market was the forerunner, you just can't set an acceptance in the first instance and then want to bring in a second referendum on this occasion for under the age of voting to have a say as the kids in the seventiea also never got a chance to have a second referendum - do we have a referendum every 3 years just for the kids who may want to have a dictate and a say when they were under to vote on the last occasion - That my friend is absolute nuts !!

Anyway thank god Your illustrious Leader didn't get in last time as he was Praising the model of Venezuelawho he wanted to follow closely and look where that has ended - A "down the pan" basket case with massive food shortages and lots of people dying of starvation on its streets and NO hospitals to be geared up to deal with it !!So when you laud Labour just think about where we could now have been before you harp on about the Tories !!

You just keep singing La La La with your ears covered and like I have mentioned as my prediction earlier when the coming election arrives, I am expecting you lot to form an orderly queue in Carlton Street with your trousers neatly folded over your right arm and all bent over ready to receive a huge shafting when the electorate drop you lot like a hot potato and finish up as a lesser party trailing the Lib Dems !

Also, you still remain ambiguous on saying it's a Tory plot for us to leave when most of Cas have voted to come out and that very rich Tory John major is fighting like mad amongst other rich Toires to stay !!! Just don't get you matey as your argument is utter b.ll.cks !!
Wow, you do hate the truth dont you, Even that evil bitch Thatcher said that tony (failed tory candidate) Bliar was her greatest achievement.
Venezuela as you most probably know have been pushed into that position by your friend Trump and his illegal (under UN rules) sanctions, all because they cannot have a socialist regime working can they.

Back to the UN and its condemnation of tory rule and child poverty in the UK, you skirted that one again, just as you keep skirting every other question about the tories cull of the elderly, homeless, disabled and the universal credit suicides.
Yours is a typical "Im all right Jack attitude gleaned from Rupert Murdochs manual (Sun) on how to be a total tory lapdog

Will you ever answer the questions about the Tory achievements , deaths, etc

To quote you "A "down the pan" basket case with massive food shortages and lots of people dying of starvation on its streets and NO hospitals to be geared up to deal with it !!" sounds just like the tory dream, not for them but for the working class, of which no doubt you are one.

as you said, I have my opinions and you have Rupert Murdochs opinions, dressed up as your own.

I will ask you once more. can you justify taking school meals away from poor kids? can you justify people dying homeless on the streets? can you justify suicides because of universal credit? can you justify the level of child poverty in the country? can you justify the sell of of the NHS? can you justify the state pension thefts from women and men?

CAN YOU?
DO YOU EVEN CARE?

Please no more quotations from the Sun, Mail or BBC, lets have your thoughts this time
Like I've already and endlessly stated, when a previous government leaves the coffers bone dry (Labour), then there's only so much you can do so don't put all the blame on the Tories as you keep insisting on !
you have endlessly sidestepped the questions, are you feeling guilty that you support such an evil political party, one that is prepared to let children in this country starve and live in poverty,
one that sees profit over people and cant wait to divvy up the NHS,
one that accepts pension theft as good economic policy and you still blame labour.
Lets go further back than Tory Blair then and blame the real villain in post war UK politics, Thatcher, if she hadnt sold and closed all our industry just to line the pockets of the few, this country would still be Great Britain.

Thats another truth you will not like.

I suppose Churchill is another of your heroes because he ordered striking welsh workers to be shot by the army

Serious question..... Are you proud of this governments record??? all of it including the deaths

ANSWER THIS OR DO NOT REPLY AT ALL

Once a Tory always an uncaring liar.

Enjoy your BJ
I’m enjoying a BLT sandwich just now on a beach cracking myself up at your responses - as for the BJ our lass got me sorted last night .. ha ha !!

If you can explain the thousands of deaths by in the Middle East under your Labour Blair years who has been dodging this issue for years and call for a proper investigation to Dr David Kellys apparent suicide and the rise of terrorism on our streets with Manchester/London bombings then I will oblige as that all came first.

Also “Running Scared” Corbyn who hasn’t and won’t commit to one definitive position on Brexit - explain that one at the same time !

Poll out today puts Lib Dem’s on 23% and Labour on 21% !! Happy Days !

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Post by thedogvinnie » 19 Sep 2019, 15:42

CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:27
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 12:58
CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 11:49
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 11:12
CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 10:32

You are very and conveniently brilliant to hand pick failings on the Tory side but ignore your Labour failings altogether and then have the audacity to say oh it was New Labour when you and your mates choose to do so - Labour is Labour and it was they that kicked off the dodgy dossier which has led to the murder of thousands of innocents in the Middle East in the bombings by us and the USA, brought terror onto the streets inside the UK, dodgy suicide claims with Dr, David Kelly who was allegedly about to blow the whistle on your Party in power at the time and have given rise to endless terror groups still in existence today. Now this totally dwarfs your hand picked allegations by a country mile !!!

The referendum was made 3 years ago and just like all those kids before when the common market was the forerunner, you just can't set an acceptance in the first instance and then want to bring in a second referendum on this occasion for under the age of voting to have a say as the kids in the seventiea also never got a chance to have a second referendum - do we have a referendum every 3 years just for the kids who may want to have a dictate and a say when they were under to vote on the last occasion - That my friend is absolute nuts !!

Anyway thank god Your illustrious Leader didn't get in last time as he was Praising the model of Venezuelawho he wanted to follow closely and look where that has ended - A "down the pan" basket case with massive food shortages and lots of people dying of starvation on its streets and NO hospitals to be geared up to deal with it !!So when you laud Labour just think about where we could now have been before you harp on about the Tories !!

You just keep singing La La La with your ears covered and like I have mentioned as my prediction earlier when the coming election arrives, I am expecting you lot to form an orderly queue in Carlton Street with your trousers neatly folded over your right arm and all bent over ready to receive a huge shafting when the electorate drop you lot like a hot potato and finish up as a lesser party trailing the Lib Dems !

Also, you still remain ambiguous on saying it's a Tory plot for us to leave when most of Cas have voted to come out and that very rich Tory John major is fighting like mad amongst other rich Toires to stay !!! Just don't get you matey as your argument is utter b.ll.cks !!
Wow, you do hate the truth dont you, Even that evil bitch Thatcher said that tony (failed tory candidate) Bliar was her greatest achievement.
Venezuela as you most probably know have been pushed into that position by your friend Trump and his illegal (under UN rules) sanctions, all because they cannot have a socialist regime working can they.

Back to the UN and its condemnation of tory rule and child poverty in the UK, you skirted that one again, just as you keep skirting every other question about the tories cull of the elderly, homeless, disabled and the universal credit suicides.
Yours is a typical "Im all right Jack attitude gleaned from Rupert Murdochs manual (Sun) on how to be a total tory lapdog

Will you ever answer the questions about the Tory achievements , deaths, etc

To quote you "A "down the pan" basket case with massive food shortages and lots of people dying of starvation on its streets and NO hospitals to be geared up to deal with it !!" sounds just like the tory dream, not for them but for the working class, of which no doubt you are one.

as you said, I have my opinions and you have Rupert Murdochs opinions, dressed up as your own.

I will ask you once more. can you justify taking school meals away from poor kids? can you justify people dying homeless on the streets? can you justify suicides because of universal credit? can you justify the level of child poverty in the country? can you justify the sell of of the NHS? can you justify the state pension thefts from women and men?

CAN YOU?
DO YOU EVEN CARE?

Please no more quotations from the Sun, Mail or BBC, lets have your thoughts this time
Like I've already and endlessly stated, when a previous government leaves the coffers bone dry (Labour), then there's only so much you can do so don't put all the blame on the Tories as you keep insisting on !
you have endlessly sidestepped the questions, are you feeling guilty that you support such an evil political party, one that is prepared to let children in this country starve and live in poverty,
one that sees profit over people and cant wait to divvy up the NHS,
one that accepts pension theft as good economic policy and you still blame labour.
Lets go further back than Tory Blair then and blame the real villain in post war UK politics, Thatcher, if she hadnt sold and closed all our industry just to line the pockets of the few, this country would still be Great Britain.

Thats another truth you will not like.

I suppose Churchill is another of your heroes because he ordered striking welsh workers to be shot by the army

Serious question..... Are you proud of this governments record??? all of it including the deaths

ANSWER THIS OR DO NOT REPLY AT ALL

Once a Tory always an uncaring liar.

Enjoy your BJ
I’m enjoying a BLT sandwich just now on a beach cracking myself up at your responses - as for the BJ our lass got me sorted last night .. ha ha !!

If you can explain the thousands of deaths by in the Middle East under your Labour Blair years who has been dodging this issue for years and call for a proper investigation to Dr David Kellys apparent suicide and the rise of terrorism on our streets with Manchester/London bombings then I will oblige as that all came first.

Also “Running Scared” Corbyn who hasn’t and won’t commit to one definitive position on Brexit - explain that one at the same time !

Poll out today puts Lib Dem’s on 23% and Labour on 21% !! Happy Days !
You still wont answer the questions will you. Are you proud every time you read of another homeless person dying on the street, or when you pass (if you do lower yourself to) a food bank. You play the blame game while your masters find more ways of getting the last penny out of the poor and elderly. In short, you sicken me with your Sun and Mail inspired quotes.

I will ask you one more time, can you justify even one death caused by Tory policies, its a simple question, can you answer it or are you a tad ashamed of your attitude but too embarrassed to admit it?

Polls pmsl . didnt they forecast a landslide for Theresa May? that went well didnt it.

Answer the question is a single death worth voting tory?

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by CasRus » 19 Sep 2019, 16:58

thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 15:42
CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:27
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 12:58
CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 11:49
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 11:12

Wow, you do hate the truth dont you, Even that evil bitch Thatcher said that tony (failed tory candidate) Bliar was her greatest achievement.
Venezuela as you most probably know have been pushed into that position by your friend Trump and his illegal (under UN rules) sanctions, all because they cannot have a socialist regime working can they.

Back to the UN and its condemnation of tory rule and child poverty in the UK, you skirted that one again, just as you keep skirting every other question about the tories cull of the elderly, homeless, disabled and the universal credit suicides.
Yours is a typical "Im all right Jack attitude gleaned from Rupert Murdochs manual (Sun) on how to be a total tory lapdog

Will you ever answer the questions about the Tory achievements , deaths, etc

To quote you "A "down the pan" basket case with massive food shortages and lots of people dying of starvation on its streets and NO hospitals to be geared up to deal with it !!" sounds just like the tory dream, not for them but for the working class, of which no doubt you are one.

as you said, I have my opinions and you have Rupert Murdochs opinions, dressed up as your own.

I will ask you once more. can you justify taking school meals away from poor kids? can you justify people dying homeless on the streets? can you justify suicides because of universal credit? can you justify the level of child poverty in the country? can you justify the sell of of the NHS? can you justify the state pension thefts from women and men?

CAN YOU?
DO YOU EVEN CARE?

Please no more quotations from the Sun, Mail or BBC, lets have your thoughts this time
Like I've already and endlessly stated, when a previous government leaves the coffers bone dry (Labour), then there's only so much you can do so don't put all the blame on the Tories as you keep insisting on !
you have endlessly sidestepped the questions, are you feeling guilty that you support such an evil political party, one that is prepared to let children in this country starve and live in poverty,
one that sees profit over people and cant wait to divvy up the NHS,
one that accepts pension theft as good economic policy and you still blame labour.
Lets go further back than Tory Blair then and blame the real villain in post war UK politics, Thatcher, if she hadnt sold and closed all our industry just to line the pockets of the few, this country would still be Great Britain.

Thats another truth you will not like.

I suppose Churchill is another of your heroes because he ordered striking welsh workers to be shot by the army

Serious question..... Are you proud of this governments record??? all of it including the deaths

ANSWER THIS OR DO NOT REPLY AT ALL

Once a Tory always an uncaring liar.

Enjoy your BJ
I’m enjoying a BLT sandwich just now on a beach cracking myself up at your responses - as for the BJ our lass got me sorted last night .. ha ha !!

If you can explain the thousands of deaths by in the Middle East under your Labour Blair years who has been dodging this issue for years and call for a proper investigation to Dr David Kellys apparent suicide and the rise of terrorism on our streets with Manchester/London bombings then I will oblige as that all came first.

Also “Running Scared” Corbyn who hasn’t and won’t commit to one definitive position on Brexit - explain that one at the same time !

Poll out today puts Lib Dem’s on 23% and Labour on 21% !! Happy Days !
You still wont answer the questions will you. Are you proud every time you read of another homeless person dying on the street, or when you pass (if you do lower yourself to) a food bank. You play the blame game while your masters find more ways of getting the last penny out of the poor and elderly. In short, you sicken me with your Sun and Mail inspired quotes.

I will ask you one more time, can you justify even one death caused by Tory policies, its a simple question, can you answer it or are you a tad ashamed of your attitude but too embarrassed to admit it?

Polls pmsl . didnt they forecast a landslide for Theresa May? that went well didnt it.

Answer the question is a single death worth voting tory?
How Long is a piece of string ??? Is it Tory Policies or is it Labour spending all the money when last in power and leaving the country in a financial mess and no money to support emergency services with - we can argue till the cows come home about this and it's people like you who are only blinkered and brainwashed to think in one direction and ignore prior knock actions having down the line consequences !

So is it worth voting Labour after the mass murder of innocents in the Middle East and all those deaths on our streets in Terrorist Bombings as a direct result of Blair's Labour policies. ?? Answer that if you are asking me about Tory Policies !

You must be an absolute Fruitcake !!

Tell you what ! As Bob Dylan in his famous song made statment to - "The Answer My Friend is Blowing in the Wind" and that's my answer but the wind I am referring to in this instance is actually blowing out of your own Backside !!!!!!

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Post by thedogvinnie » 19 Sep 2019, 19:11

CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 16:58
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 15:42
CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:27
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 12:58
CasRus wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 11:49

Like I've already and endlessly stated, when a previous government leaves the coffers bone dry (Labour), then there's only so much you can do so don't put all the blame on the Tories as you keep insisting on !
you have endlessly sidestepped the questions, are you feeling guilty that you support such an evil political party, one that is prepared to let children in this country starve and live in poverty,
one that sees profit over people and cant wait to divvy up the NHS,
one that accepts pension theft as good economic policy and you still blame labour.
Lets go further back than Tory Blair then and blame the real villain in post war UK politics, Thatcher, if she hadnt sold and closed all our industry just to line the pockets of the few, this country would still be Great Britain.

Thats another truth you will not like.

I suppose Churchill is another of your heroes because he ordered striking welsh workers to be shot by the army

Serious question..... Are you proud of this governments record??? all of it including the deaths

ANSWER THIS OR DO NOT REPLY AT ALL

Once a Tory always an uncaring liar.

Enjoy your BJ
I’m enjoying a BLT sandwich just now on a beach cracking myself up at your responses - as for the BJ our lass got me sorted last night .. ha ha !!

If you can explain the thousands of deaths by in the Middle East under your Labour Blair years who has been dodging this issue for years and call for a proper investigation to Dr David Kellys apparent suicide and the rise of terrorism on our streets with Manchester/London bombings then I will oblige as that all came first.

Also “Running Scared” Corbyn who hasn’t and won’t commit to one definitive position on Brexit - explain that one at the same time !

Poll out today puts Lib Dem’s on 23% and Labour on 21% !! Happy Days !
You still wont answer the questions will you. Are you proud every time you read of another homeless person dying on the street, or when you pass (if you do lower yourself to) a food bank. You play the blame game while your masters find more ways of getting the last penny out of the poor and elderly. In short, you sicken me with your Sun and Mail inspired quotes.

I will ask you one more time, can you justify even one death caused by Tory policies, its a simple question, can you answer it or are you a tad ashamed of your attitude but too embarrassed to admit it?

Polls pmsl . didnt they forecast a landslide for Theresa May? that went well didnt it.

Answer the question is a single death worth voting tory?
How Long is a piece of string ??? Is it Tory Policies or is it Labour spending all the money when last in power and leaving the country in a financial mess and no money to support emergency services with - we can argue till the cows come home about this and it's people like you who are only blinkered and brainwashed to think in one direction and ignore prior knock actions having down the line consequences !

So is it worth voting Labour after the mass murder of innocents in the Middle East and all those deaths on our streets in Terrorist Bombings as a direct result of Blair's Labour policies. ?? Answer that if you are asking me about Tory Policies !

You must be an absolute Fruitcake !!

Tell you what ! As Bob Dylan in his famous song made statment to - "The Answer My Friend is Blowing in the Wind" and that's my answer but the wind I am referring to in this instance is actually blowing out of your own Backside !!!!!!
Answer the question is a single death worth voting tory?

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by alftupper » 22 Sep 2019, 19:37

thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 19:11
Answer the question is a single death worth voting tory?
of course, just as long as I get to choose who.

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Post by CasRus » 23 Sep 2019, 00:12

alftupper wrote: 22 Sep 2019, 19:37
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 19:11
Answer the question is a single death worth voting tory?
of course, just as long as I get to choose who.
Well Alf, there a whole range of selections on the Labour front bench for a start ! You know those that send all their kids to Private Schools that they want to now abolish, Klingon Corbyn who couldn't decide which side of the Brexit fence he wants (or doesn't want) to alight from his sitting down position. His backside is now getting so splintered his own people are about ready to kick it down from underneath him. Also, the fact that he and his momentum red army are trying to oust labour moderates like Tom Watson (so much for his democratic front he puts on with his smile and then is prepared to knife his own members in their backs with his momentum red army !).

It's a joy to behold now its all finally kicking off in their own Labour backyard after months of slagging off the Tories as if they don't have problems of their own !!

You lot should watch the last episode of Peaky Blinders and see what you are similarly supporting with similar undertones !

Nuff Said and await the outcome of an election as I still predict Jezza is about to become Toast and predict Labour will finish up trailing the Lib Dems with a smaller MP return to parliament !

I can't seem to get that "Oh Happy Days" song out of my head this week for some reason !!

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Post by thedogvinnie » 23 Sep 2019, 06:30

CasRus wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 00:12
alftupper wrote: 22 Sep 2019, 19:37
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 19:11
Answer the question is a single death worth voting tory?
of course, just as long as I get to choose who.
Well Alf, there a whole range of selections on the Labour front bench for a start ! You know those that send all their kids to Private Schools that they want to now abolish, Klingon Corbyn who couldn't decide which side of the Brexit fence he wants (or doesn't want) to alight from his sitting down position. His backside is now getting so splintered his own people are about ready to kick it down from underneath him. Also, the fact that he and his momentum red army are trying to oust labour moderates like Tom Watson (so much for his democratic front he puts on with his smile and then is prepared to knife his own members in their backs with his momentum red army !).

It's a joy to behold now its all finally kicking off in their own Labour backyard after months of slagging off the Tories as if they don't have problems of their own !!

You lot should watch the last episode of Peaky Blinders and see what you are similarly supporting with similar undertones !

Nuff Said and await the outcome of an election as I still predict Jezza is about to become Toast and predict Labour will finish up trailing the Lib Dems with a smaller MP return to parliament !

I can't seem to get that "Oh Happy Days" song out of my head this week for some reason !!
well russ you had to wait for an ally, however idiotic that ally is.
You still havent answered the question, is one death caused by tory policy acceptable and worth voting tory,
for example that wheelchair bound homeless lady thet died in a shop doorway in Leeds recently, was her death acceptable as the result of tory policy.
Why are you afraid to answer, is it because you are ashamed?

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by CasRus » 23 Sep 2019, 09:07

thedogvinnie wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 06:30
CasRus wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 00:12
alftupper wrote: 22 Sep 2019, 19:37
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 19:11
Answer the question is a single death worth voting tory?
of course, just as long as I get to choose who.
Well Alf, there a whole range of selections on the Labour front bench for a start ! You know those that send all their kids to Private Schools that they want to now abolish, Klingon Corbyn who couldn't decide which side of the Brexit fence he wants (or doesn't want) to alight from his sitting down position. His backside is now getting so splintered his own people are about ready to kick it down from underneath him. Also, the fact that he and his momentum red army are trying to oust labour moderates like Tom Watson (so much for his democratic front he puts on with his smile and then is prepared to knife his own members in their backs with his momentum red army !).

It's a joy to behold now its all finally kicking off in their own Labour backyard after months of slagging off the Tories as if they don't have problems of their own !!

You lot should watch the last episode of Peaky Blinders and see what you are similarly supporting with similar undertones !

Nuff Said and await the outcome of an election as I still predict Jezza is about to become Toast and predict Labour will finish up trailing the Lib Dems with a smaller MP return to parliament !

I can't seem to get that "Oh Happy Days" song out of my head this week for some reason !!
well russ you had to wait for an ally, however idiotic that ally is.
You still havent answered the question, is one death caused by tory policy acceptable and worth voting tory,
for example that wheelchair bound homeless lady thet died in a shop doorway in Leeds recently, was her death acceptable as the result of tory policy.
Why are you afraid to answer, is it because you are ashamed?
Your Question is ambiguous and hypothetical.

You hone in on your own thought patterns of what is right and wrong and try to make out Tory Policy is a great satan and then have the audacity to disregard other aspects of right and wrong like labour causing thousands of deaths in the Middle East and bringing rise to Deaths on the streets of the UK by terrorism and another example is where a Labour elected Mayor brought an end to stop and search and knife crime deaths have gone through the roof.

The answer to this is NO elected administration will ever be devoid of ANY blame if death occurs by policies and decisions set and laid out for the future choose however people vote for - even the Greens policy would have deaths occurring by any of their laid out policies (green policy would make heating houses expensive for example where pensioners may not be able to afford to keep sufficiently warm and die of hypothermia).

So now I have answered the best I can, you answer my question - Is thousands of deaths caused by the Blair/Brown government and the rise of terrorism on our streets acceptable as a result of Labour policies and coverups ? So who is more ashamed of who ?????? That is why your question to me is stupid and doesn't serve any purpose as all can be considered culpable including Labour leaving the pot dry when last in government and the Tories having to fire fight the economy back to reasonable Balance of payments acceptance !! If Labour had been returned, we would be a bankrupt country unable to afford imports and just like Venezuela if Corbyn had had his way of following their model as it has now been proved.

You need to think a bit more clearly and take the blinkers off !!

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Post by thedogvinnie » 23 Sep 2019, 11:17

CasRus wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 09:07
thedogvinnie wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 06:30
CasRus wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 00:12
alftupper wrote: 22 Sep 2019, 19:37
thedogvinnie wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 19:11
Answer the question is a single death worth voting tory?
of course, just as long as I get to choose who.
Well Alf, there a whole range of selections on the Labour front bench for a start ! You know those that send all their kids to Private Schools that they want to now abolish, Klingon Corbyn who couldn't decide which side of the Brexit fence he wants (or doesn't want) to alight from his sitting down position. His backside is now getting so splintered his own people are about ready to kick it down from underneath him. Also, the fact that he and his momentum red army are trying to oust labour moderates like Tom Watson (so much for his democratic front he puts on with his smile and then is prepared to knife his own members in their backs with his momentum red army !).

It's a joy to behold now its all finally kicking off in their own Labour backyard after months of slagging off the Tories as if they don't have problems of their own !!

You lot should watch the last episode of Peaky Blinders and see what you are similarly supporting with similar undertones !

Nuff Said and await the outcome of an election as I still predict Jezza is about to become Toast and predict Labour will finish up trailing the Lib Dems with a smaller MP return to parliament !

I can't seem to get that "Oh Happy Days" song out of my head this week for some reason !!
well russ you had to wait for an ally, however idiotic that ally is.
You still havent answered the question, is one death caused by tory policy acceptable and worth voting tory,
for example that wheelchair bound homeless lady thet died in a shop doorway in Leeds recently, was her death acceptable as the result of tory policy.
Why are you afraid to answer, is it because you are ashamed?
Your Question is ambiguous and hypothetical.

You hone in on your own thought patterns of what is right and wrong and try to make out Tory Policy is a great satan and then have the audacity to disregard other aspects of right and wrong like labour causing thousands of deaths in the Middle East and bringing rise to Deaths on the streets of the UK by terrorism and another example is where a Labour elected Mayor brought an end to stop and search and knife crime deaths have gone through the roof.

The answer to this is NO elected administration will ever be devoid of ANY blame if death occurs by policies and decisions set and laid out for the future choose however people vote for - even the Greens policy would have deaths occurring by any of their laid out policies (green policy would make heating houses expensive for example where pensioners may not be able to afford to keep sufficiently warm and die of hypothermia).

So now I have answered the best I can, you answer my question - Is thousands of deaths caused by the Blair/Brown government and the rise of terrorism on our streets acceptable as a result of Labour policies and coverups ? So who is more ashamed of who ?????? That is why your question to me is stupid and doesn't serve any purpose as all can be considered culpable including Labour leaving the pot dry when last in government and the Tories having to fire fight the economy back to reasonable Balance of payments acceptance !! If Labour had been returned, we would be a bankrupt country unable to afford imports and just like Venezuela if Corbyn had had his way of following their model as it has now been proved.

You need to think a bit more clearly and take the blinkers off !!
You have not answered the question , you bumbled along trying to shift blame with a load of ifs and buts. You dont like the fact that Tory policy is killing the vulnerable.

A simple yes or no will do,
IS ANY DEATH CAUSED BY TORY POLICY WORTH VOTING FOR THEM.
as i said, a simple yes or no will do, unless as i suspect , you are ashamed of your uncaring political stance

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by CasRus » 23 Sep 2019, 11:44

thedogvinnie wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 11:17
CasRus wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 09:07
thedogvinnie wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 06:30
CasRus wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 00:12
alftupper wrote: 22 Sep 2019, 19:37

of course, just as long as I get to choose who.
Well Alf, there a whole range of selections on the Labour front bench for a start ! You know those that send all their kids to Private Schools that they want to now abolish, Klingon Corbyn who couldn't decide which side of the Brexit fence he wants (or doesn't want) to alight from his sitting down position. His backside is now getting so splintered his own people are about ready to kick it down from underneath him. Also, the fact that he and his momentum red army are trying to oust labour moderates like Tom Watson (so much for his democratic front he puts on with his smile and then is prepared to knife his own members in their backs with his momentum red army !).

It's a joy to behold now its all finally kicking off in their own Labour backyard after months of slagging off the Tories as if they don't have problems of their own !!

You lot should watch the last episode of Peaky Blinders and see what you are similarly supporting with similar undertones !

Nuff Said and await the outcome of an election as I still predict Jezza is about to become Toast and predict Labour will finish up trailing the Lib Dems with a smaller MP return to parliament !

I can't seem to get that "Oh Happy Days" song out of my head this week for some reason !!
well russ you had to wait for an ally, however idiotic that ally is.
You still havent answered the question, is one death caused by tory policy acceptable and worth voting tory,
for example that wheelchair bound homeless lady thet died in a shop doorway in Leeds recently, was her death acceptable as the result of tory policy.
Why are you afraid to answer, is it because you are ashamed?
Your Question is ambiguous and hypothetical.

You hone in on your own thought patterns of what is right and wrong and try to make out Tory Policy is a great satan and then have the audacity to disregard other aspects of right and wrong like labour causing thousands of deaths in the Middle East and bringing rise to Deaths on the streets of the UK by terrorism and another example is where a Labour elected Mayor brought an end to stop and search and knife crime deaths have gone through the roof.

The answer to this is NO elected administration will ever be devoid of ANY blame if death occurs by policies and decisions set and laid out for the future choose however people vote for - even the Greens policy would have deaths occurring by any of their laid out policies (green policy would make heating houses expensive for example where pensioners may not be able to afford to keep sufficiently warm and die of hypothermia).

So now I have answered the best I can, you answer my question - Is thousands of deaths caused by the Blair/Brown government and the rise of terrorism on our streets acceptable as a result of Labour policies and coverups ? So who is more ashamed of who ?????? That is why your question to me is stupid and doesn't serve any purpose as all can be considered culpable including Labour leaving the pot dry when last in government and the Tories having to fire fight the economy back to reasonable Balance of payments acceptance !! If Labour had been returned, we would be a bankrupt country unable to afford imports and just like Venezuela if Corbyn had had his way of following their model as it has now been proved.

You need to think a bit more clearly and take the blinkers off !!
You have not answered the question , you bumbled along trying to shift blame with a load of ifs and buts. You dont like the fact that Tory policy is killing the vulnerable.

A simple yes or no will do,
IS ANY DEATH CAUSED BY TORY POLICY WORTH VOTING FOR THEM.
as i said, a simple yes or no will do, unless as i suspect , you are ashamed of your uncaring political stance
I Repeat for the very last time as we are going around in circles here:-

Your Question is ambiguous and hypothetical.

You hone in on your own thought patterns of what is right and wrong and try to make out Tory Policy is a great satan and then have the audacity to disregard other aspects of right and wrong like labour causing thousands of deaths in the Middle East and bringing rise to Deaths on the streets of the UK by terrorism and another example is where a Labour elected Mayor brought an end to stop and search and knife crime deaths have gone through the roof.

The answer to this is NO elected administration will ever be devoid of ANY blame if death occurs by policies and decisions set and laid out for the future choose however people vote for - even the Greens policy would have deaths occurring by any of their laid out policies (green policy would make heating houses expensive for example where pensioners may not be able to afford to keep sufficiently warm and die of hypothermia).

So now I have answered the best I can, you answer my question - Is thousands of deaths caused by the Blair/Brown government and the rise of terrorism on our streets acceptable as a result of Labour policies and coverups ? So who is more ashamed of who ?????? That is why your question to me is stupid and doesn't serve any purpose as all can be considered culpable including Labour leaving the pot dry when last in government and the Tories having to fire fight the economy back to reasonable Balance of payments acceptance !! If Labour had been returned, we would be a bankrupt country unable to afford imports and just like Venezuela if Corbyn had had his way of following their model as it has now been proved.

You need to think a bit more clearly and take the blinkers off !!

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by thedogvinnie » 23 Sep 2019, 11:56

CasRus wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 11:44
thedogvinnie wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 11:17
CasRus wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 09:07
thedogvinnie wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 06:30
CasRus wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 00:12

Well Alf, there a whole range of selections on the Labour front bench for a start ! You know those that send all their kids to Private Schools that they want to now abolish, Klingon Corbyn who couldn't decide which side of the Brexit fence he wants (or doesn't want) to alight from his sitting down position. His backside is now getting so splintered his own people are about ready to kick it down from underneath him. Also, the fact that he and his momentum red army are trying to oust labour moderates like Tom Watson (so much for his democratic front he puts on with his smile and then is prepared to knife his own members in their backs with his momentum red army !).

It's a joy to behold now its all finally kicking off in their own Labour backyard after months of slagging off the Tories as if they don't have problems of their own !!

You lot should watch the last episode of Peaky Blinders and see what you are similarly supporting with similar undertones !

Nuff Said and await the outcome of an election as I still predict Jezza is about to become Toast and predict Labour will finish up trailing the Lib Dems with a smaller MP return to parliament !

I can't seem to get that "Oh Happy Days" song out of my head this week for some reason !!
well russ you had to wait for an ally, however idiotic that ally is.
You still havent answered the question, is one death caused by tory policy acceptable and worth voting tory,
for example that wheelchair bound homeless lady thet died in a shop doorway in Leeds recently, was her death acceptable as the result of tory policy.
Why are you afraid to answer, is it because you are ashamed?
Your Question is ambiguous and hypothetical.

You hone in on your own thought patterns of what is right and wrong and try to make out Tory Policy is a great satan and then have the audacity to disregard other aspects of right and wrong like labour causing thousands of deaths in the Middle East and bringing rise to Deaths on the streets of the UK by terrorism and another example is where a Labour elected Mayor brought an end to stop and search and knife crime deaths have gone through the roof.

The answer to this is NO elected administration will ever be devoid of ANY blame if death occurs by policies and decisions set and laid out for the future choose however people vote for - even the Greens policy would have deaths occurring by any of their laid out policies (green policy would make heating houses expensive for example where pensioners may not be able to afford to keep sufficiently warm and die of hypothermia).

So now I have answered the best I can, you answer my question - Is thousands of deaths caused by the Blair/Brown government and the rise of terrorism on our streets acceptable as a result of Labour policies and coverups ? So who is more ashamed of who ?????? That is why your question to me is stupid and doesn't serve any purpose as all can be considered culpable including Labour leaving the pot dry when last in government and the Tories having to fire fight the economy back to reasonable Balance of payments acceptance !! If Labour had been returned, we would be a bankrupt country unable to afford imports and just like Venezuela if Corbyn had had his way of following their model as it has now been proved.

You need to think a bit more clearly and take the blinkers off !!
You have not answered the question , you bumbled along trying to shift blame with a load of ifs and buts. You dont like the fact that Tory policy is killing the vulnerable.

A simple yes or no will do,
IS ANY DEATH CAUSED BY TORY POLICY WORTH VOTING FOR THEM.
as i said, a simple yes or no will do, unless as i suspect , you are ashamed of your uncaring political stance
I Repeat for the very last time as we are going around in circles here:-

Your Question is ambiguous and hypothetical.

You hone in on your own thought patterns of what is right and wrong and try to make out Tory Policy is a great satan and then have the audacity to disregard other aspects of right and wrong like labour causing thousands of deaths in the Middle East and bringing rise to Deaths on the streets of the UK by terrorism and another example is where a Labour elected Mayor brought an end to stop and search and knife crime deaths have gone through the roof.

The answer to this is NO elected administration will ever be devoid of ANY blame if death occurs by policies and decisions set and laid out for the future choose however people vote for - even the Greens policy would have deaths occurring by any of their laid out policies (green policy would make heating houses expensive for example where pensioners may not be able to afford to keep sufficiently warm and die of hypothermia).

So now I have answered the best I can, you answer my question - Is thousands of deaths caused by the Blair/Brown government and the rise of terrorism on our streets acceptable as a result of Labour policies and coverups ? So who is more ashamed of who ?????? That is why your question to me is stupid and doesn't serve any purpose as all can be considered culpable including Labour leaving the pot dry when last in government and the Tories having to fire fight the economy back to reasonable Balance of payments acceptance !! If Labour had been returned, we would be a bankrupt country unable to afford imports and just like Venezuela if Corbyn had had his way of following their model as it has now been proved.

You need to think a bit more clearly and take the blinkers off !!
Just answer the question. yes or no, its that simple
or are you proud of the deaths and misery caused by the Tories, but want to be seen as caring.

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by WF10 » 23 Sep 2019, 12:12

Some great 'Whataboutery' from Rus there.
removed post it again and you will join them on a 48 hour ban read the AUP

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by Flat Capper » 23 Sep 2019, 12:14

Well the biggest surprise I've come back to following a short break is the fact Vinniedog appears to share my political views.

The simple answer to the questions is, yes, deaths at the hand of Tory policy appear to be acceptable but those at the hands of Labour policy, or any other party for that matter, appear to be unacceptable. You couldn't make it up!
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by CasRus » 23 Sep 2019, 13:05

Flat Capper wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 12:14 Well the biggest surprise I've come back to following a short break is the fact Vinniedog appears to share my political views.

The simple answer to the questions is, yes, deaths at the hand of Tory policy appear to be acceptable but those at the hands of Labour policy, or any other party for that matter, appear to be unacceptable. You couldn't make it up!
Totally untrue Flatcapper as the question was first touted by the dogs to me as if it's the Tories that are creating all these deaths and I was merely mentioning that Labour leaving the coffers empty plus many more points to consider with misdemeanours to answer for in the past could be equally and more to blame and as I have quoted per the following and remain impartial as any political movement have been and would be culpable whichever policies they decide to implement :- My Quote:-

"The answer to this is NO elected administration will ever be devoid of ANY blame if death occurs by policies and decisions set and laid out for the future choose however and whoever people vote for - even the Greens policy would have deaths occurring by any of their laid out policies (green policy would make heating houses expensive for example where pensioners may not be able to afford to keep sufficiently warm and die of hypothermia)."

You are very quick to condemn Tory Policy which is what the dogs did as he raised it first and I didn't, but then become totally oblivious to past labour demeanours who have caused considerable death and damage and brought terrorism to our streets so in essence as the dogs was trying to sh.. on my doorstep, please accept mine on your doorstep also as it now becomes a stupid question to have been raised in the first place !

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