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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by Flat Capper » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:25 pm

Strange view on peace in Europe when you consider we've had peace in Europe because of the fact we've worked together.

And I'm sure we'll see the benefits of reduced levels of co-operation with the intelligence services of our EU allies once we've left.
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Regular as [REMOVED] clockwork.

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by Flat Capper » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:39 pm

Anyone would think The Times was trying to divert attention!
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by CasRus » Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:56 pm

Former Bank of England governor Lord King tells MPs to deliver no-deal Brexit





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Mar 29th 2019 8:47AM

The UK should tell the EU it wants a no-deal Brexit but ask for extra time to prepare, former Bank of England governor Lord King has said.
He accused MPs of having “lost the plot” and suffered “nervous breakdown” over the prospect of a no-deal exit.
Lord King said while there could be “short-run dislocation costs” for the economy from a no-deal Brexit, in the long-term there would be little impact.
The cross-bench peer said: “My own personal preference would be to go back to Europe and say we have a clear strategy, which is that we want to leave without a deal, but we would like to take six months to complete the preparations.”
He acknowledged “if we were to leave without making the preparations there would be some short-run dislocation costs” but it was “hard to know how serious that would be”.
I wonder sometimes if the political class hasn’t suffered a collective nervous breakdown and lost confidence in the country
Lord King
On BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, he said some of the claims about a no-deal exit such as “queues of lorries on the M20 for five years” were “pretty absurd”.
“I don’t believe that with adequate preparation, or in the long-term, that the economic costs of leaving would be very different from staying in the EU,” he added.
But he said “the issue should not be about economics” as that was not what motivated people in the referendum.
“It’s the issues of identity, culture and politics that are motivating people, which is why I think that MPs have lost the plot because when we hear people talk about the consequences of leaving without a deal as ‘national suicide’,” he said, referring to a comment by pro-EU Tory Dominic Grieve.
“I wonder sometimes if the political class hasn’t suffered a collective nervous breakdown and lost confidence in the country.”

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by alftupper » Tue May 14, 2019 10:20 am

I read that none other than our greatest living Englishman rolled into Fev of all places yesterday with leading figures of his Brexit Party.

They played to a packed Featherstone ‘Working’ Men’s Club (peculiar that they’re not working on a Monday morning) with Anne Widdercombe in particular going down a storm!

I’ve always said that your average red would vote a cabbage into parliament if it had a red rosette stuck to it but this gives me hope that I might have been wrong and the penny is finally dropping.

Wouldn’t it be great if this apparent sea change could be sustained to the next GE and we see the back of Cooper, Creagh and Trickett et al

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by Flat Capper » Tue May 14, 2019 12:47 pm

alftupper wrote:I read that none other than our greatest living Englishman rolled into Fev of all places yesterday with leading figures of his Brexit Party.

They played to a packed Featherstone ‘Working’ Men’s Club (peculiar that they’re not working on a Monday morning) with Anne Widdercombe in particular going down a storm!

I’ve always said that your average red would vote a cabbage into parliament if it had a red rosette stuck to it but this gives me hope that I might have been wrong and the penny is finally dropping.

Wouldn’t it be great if this apparent sea change could be sustained to the next GE and we see the back of Cooper, Creagh and Trickett et al
In reality nothing has changed, they just accept whatever tripe is fed to them and nobody feeds it better than Fragage who couldn't even name the correct MP for the town. He's not one to let facts get in the way is he?
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by alftupper » Wed May 15, 2019 2:17 pm

I wonder if Nigel is considering standing against the Balls-Cooper woman at the next GE, it would certainly shake things up a bit and after all it’s the most betrayed constituency in the country.

I think it would be a much closer fought election than when Enoch god bless him stood for the Normanton seat all those years ago.

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Post by CasRus » Wed May 15, 2019 4:06 pm

Flat Capper wrote:
alftupper wrote:I read that none other than our greatest living Englishman rolled into Fev of all places yesterday with leading figures of his Brexit Party.

They played to a packed Featherstone ‘Working’ Men’s Club (peculiar that they’re not working on a Monday morning) with Anne Widdercombe in particular going down a storm!

I’ve always said that your average red would vote a cabbage into parliament if it had a red rosette stuck to it but this gives me hope that I might have been wrong and the penny is finally dropping.

Wouldn’t it be great if this apparent sea change could be sustained to the next GE and we see the back of Cooper, Creagh and Trickett et al
In reality nothing has changed, they just accept whatever tripe is fed to them and nobody feeds it better than Fragage who couldn't even name the correct MP for the town. He's not one to let facts get in the way is he?
Flatcapper, personally if I were you I wouldn't be going down that road especially when you've got a certain person named Dianne Abbott in your marxist party !

Farage speaks for a lot for the common people and makes more sense than all of the Commons put together and is great at ripping the EU a new A Hole every time he gets up in Brussels to speak - He's Brilliant at that !

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Post by Flat Capper » Wed May 15, 2019 4:11 pm

There are quite a few Labour constituencies where the sitting MP isn't quite in line with the Brexit vote so I suspect the Forage-Fascist man would chose one closer to his preferred South-East.
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Post by CasRus » Wed May 15, 2019 4:28 pm

That's a great understatement you make Flatcapper "not quite in line with the Brexit vote" ! Suggest you take a look at the % vote was for Brexit in the Balls Cooper constit.

Now consider this to be a democratic country and then consider the Cooper woman who has defied democracy when she has openly betrayed her constituents wishes on Brexit !

Now ask yourself this, is she representing her people which she is supposed to or is she now dictating and imposing her will and view which is more or less saying her constituents are not as bright as what she considers herself ! Brilliant isn't it when you consider that you lot pan the conservatives and who you consider as not representing the common man !

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by Flat Capper » Wed May 15, 2019 4:39 pm

You two must get dizzy constantly going around in circles.

For the last time, and hopefully so you finally understand, the referendum question only asked if we wanted to stay in Europe or leave. It didn't state how, with a deal, with no deal or coated with shiny stars. On that basis, if we leave the EU in one way or another, including no deal or coated with shiny stars, we have upheld the result of the referendum.

Yvette Cooper is arguing that we leave but on the most economically sound basis.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by CasRus » Wed May 15, 2019 7:57 pm

Flat Capper wrote:You two must get dizzy constantly going around in circles.

For the last time, and hopefully so you finally understand, the referendum question only asked if we wanted to stay in Europe or leave. It didn't state how, with a deal, with no deal or coated with shiny stars. On that basis, if we leave the EU in one way or another, including no deal or coated with shiny stars, we have upheld the result of the referendum.

Yvette Cooper is arguing that we leave but on the most economically sound basis.


Admirable response but every MP thinks they know how best to leave and that is the issue as to why nowts happening !!! That includes Cooper who has her own vision on how best to leave but not agreeable to others !

Let’s just Leave and work out the details and negotiate later then democracy is served - anything less will be suspiciously viewed as remaining now and semi tied to the EU ! Simples !

Anything less is not democratic to the referendum as different MPs all have hidden agendas and party politics especially from Corbyn and middle of the road Tories that is coming into play that is clouding the true result of the referendum

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by alftupper » Wed May 15, 2019 10:18 pm

poll after poll suggest that the public’s preferred outcome is a no deal Brexit. My ballot paper didn’t say remain in the EU or leave only if we get a deal. Leave means leave and for me the purest outcome is a no deal. The Balls Cooper woman thinks she know better than the thousands of her constituents who want to leave probably with a no deal and actively sought to take no deal off the table. Utter contempt for her constituents but she knows she will probably get away with it because of stupid Labour voters.

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by Flat Capper » Thu May 16, 2019 12:16 pm

alftupper wrote:poll after poll suggest that the public’s preferred outcome is a no deal Brexit. My ballot paper didn’t say remain in the EU or leave only if we get a deal. Leave means leave and for me the purest outcome is a no deal. The Balls Cooper woman thinks she know better than the thousands of her constituents who want to leave probably with a no deal and actively sought to take no deal off the table. Utter contempt for her constituents but she knows she will probably get away with it because of stupid Labour voters.
Are these the same "stupid" voters that you claim knew exactly what they were voting for in the referendum?

What is not in doubt is that a large proportion of voters weren't aware of the complex nature of EU membership or the potential impact of trying to leave. I'd certainly like to know how you re-negotiate agreements with the EU once you've left and therefore have no bargaining tools? Surely, if you want a no deal exit, you do not want to work with them or are you just being hypocritical?
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by alftupper » Fri May 17, 2019 8:31 am

Flat Capper wrote: I'd certainly like to know how you re-negotiate agreements with the EU once you've left and therefore have no bargaining tools? Surely, if you want a no deal exit, you do not want to work with them or are you just being hypocritical?
We are currently being offered a deal that’s bad and have a weak PM who’s being trampled on.

No deal is better than a bad deal, remember that?

We leave without a deal and see how long it is before the EU come crawling for a good deal with the worlds 5th largest economy.

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