Who else do we need?

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by tigerfeat » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:18 pm

Powell relys on players who have been around the block a bit got super league experience rarther than risking a young fella who will make mistakes unless it's a talent like trueman who all ready at his young age is a top defender not saying it's right or wrong just the way he's done things at cas

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by MrRugby123 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:21 pm

flow wrote:The castleford junior coach pointed out the other day , theys not as many kids playing in the cas district as they used to be .Less to pick from
As we don’t pay as much for the kids to play in our academy we don’t really get the best of the players. The best players are cherry picked by teams like Leeds, Wigan, wire and saints and that’s why they have a good success rate of kids coming through the academy. A lot of luck is involved in kids coming through your academy such as when we was poor a few years back so we could pick players like oggi Holmes, daz clark and Adam Milner but now we have a bigger squad they have a lot less chance of coming through. The latest junior player that was rated highly at our club was Callum mclelland and his opportunity didn’t come because of Jake Trueman who had one year at our academy and then progressed into the first team.

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by bane73 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:32 pm

I think minns will also be brought In, could be wrong.
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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by heritage1926 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:10 pm

MrRugby123 wrote:
flow wrote:The castleford junior coach pointed out the other day , theys not as many kids playing in the cas district as they used to be .Less to pick from
As we don’t pay as much for the kids to play in our academy we don’t really get the best of the players. The best players are cherry picked by teams like Leeds, Wigan, wire and saints and that’s why they have a good success rate of kids coming through the academy. A lot of luck is involved in kids coming through your academy such as when we was poor a few years back so we could pick players like oggi Holmes, daz clark and Adam Milner but now we have a bigger squad they have a lot less chance of coming through. The latest junior player that was rated highly at our club was Callum mclelland and his opportunity didn’t come because of Jake Trueman who had one year at our academy and then progressed into the first team.
Good on us too! IMO academy players should be on basic pay, should be made to do courses and workshops etc to help their academic too. They need to be kept grounded. Too many kids become something their not when money and the lure of a professional contract are branded about.

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by MrRugby123 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:42 pm

Totally agree heritage1926 but at any age it’s money what talks. Say cas was offering someone £3000 for the year and then Leeds offered £5000 they’d take the Leeds offer.

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by lurcher » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:51 pm

old cas lass wrote:
derbystiger wrote:
TiGR wrote: Where do we think we are money-wise now?
Back up to the cap? Gales dispensation money also gone on Blair?
I think we should still have Gales dispensation available if we can afford/want to use it. Roberts money should be paying for Blair I would reckon?

I have a feeling the gale money won’t be used.
I think the club are holding on to him playing some part at the end of the season.
heard rumours he could be back for august. would be nice.
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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by classycas57 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:01 pm

We need a top class winger now for sure. Clare is ok for backup odd game. Peanut needs to go back to full back turner not ready yet.im also not convinced that Truman is ready yet either.im annoyed that cas thought they could once again go through season without forking out for a centre having failed to learn a valuable lesson with the full back situation last year.

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by lurcher » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:06 pm

wonder if blair could recommend a good winger to play alongside him.
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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by tigerfeat » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:09 pm

lurcher wrote:wonder if blair could recommend a good winger to play alongside him.
Either of the two that his ex team use would be nice ;)

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Post by HuddsTigers » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:02 pm

Sharlotiger wrote: How many have come through on Powells watch that have gone on to be SL regulars either with us or elsewhere?
Wouldn't like to guess at 2012/2013 when he took over as some may have been at the club before (e.g. Charlie Martin/Dan Fleming)

But after that we've had these all part of the first team squad:
* Ash Robson (York)
* Will Maher (Cas)
* Tom Holmes (Huddersfield)
* Brandon Moore (Halifax)
* Jordan Howden (Doncaster)
* Brandon Douglas (Doncaster)
* Brad England (Doncaster)
* Kieran Gill (Cas)
* Brandon Westerman (Unattached)
* Conor Fitzsimmons (Newcastle)
* Luke Million (Keighley)

Plus Jacques O'Neill, Turner, Storey and Carr. Don't know of any other ones in academy that have gone on to other clubs
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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by Casmoley » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:16 pm

HuddsTigers wrote:
Sharlotiger wrote: How many have come through on Powells watch that have gone on to be SL regulars either with us or elsewhere?
Wouldn't like to guess at 2012/2013 when he took over as some may have been at the club before (e.g. Charlie Martin/Dan Fleming)

But after that we've had these all part of the first team squad:
* Ash Robson (York)
* Will Maher (Cas)
* Tom Holmes (Huddersfield)
* Brandon Moore (Halifax)
* Jordan Howden (Doncaster)
* Brandon Douglas (Doncaster)
* Brad England (Doncaster)
* Kieran Gill (Cas)
* Brandon Westerman (Unattached)
* Conor Fitzsimmons (Newcastle)
* Luke Million (Keighley)

Plus Jacques O'Neill, Turner, Storey and Carr. Don't know of any other ones in academy that have gone on to other clubs

Jack Rayy is at Dewsbury and Jack Render at Fev.

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by HuddsTigers » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:26 pm

Back to the thread, I think most of us are along the same lines.

For me, FB, Halves and Back row (SR/LF) are sorted for the next few seasons (to be honest, I think we could even shed a few from these positions).

Centre, wing and prop are probably my target areas. Happy with Eden on the wing but would prefer a stronger right-edge winger with Minikin/Clare, Gill and Carr as back-up. RE: Minikin/Clare, it's whichever DP feels offers better quality but also better value for money. Gill deserves a chance - think he's scored in every game he's played and this season is the time to blood him a bit.

Centre-wise, happy with Blair and Shenton but would like another centre brought in as decent cover with Storey as an understudy. Not convinced by Egodo and wouldn't have Minikin.

Prop - Cook has been fab this season and Watts awesome, Clark great impact sub. But I do wonder how long Millo has left in his legs and Moors' form has been patchy this season too. I also prefer him out wide

To be honest, I'd be looking at cutting one of Minikin/Clare, one of Ellis/Rankin, Aston, Maher, Egodo, Clarkson and using the cap space on those 3 positions plus anything spare. Gives us a squad of

FB: Matuatia/Turner
W: Eden/NEW SIGNING/Minikin or Clare/Gill/Carr
C: Blair/Shenton/NEW SIGNING/Storey
HB/SH: Trueman/Gale/Ellis or Rankin/Sweeting
P: Watts/Cook/Millo/NEW SIGNING/Clark/Smith/Peachey
H: McShane/O'Neill
SR: McMeeken/Foster/Jesse/Holmes/Moors
LF: Massey/Milner

31 man squad, down from 33 this year. 6 out, 3 in plus Sweeting promoted in the halves.
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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by SREGITSAC » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:42 pm

Very good honest interview with Wells on Tigers TV about recruitment and the process they are going through looking at requirements up to 2022

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by Casmoley » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:03 pm

SREGITSAC wrote:Very good honest interview with Wells on Tigers TV about recruitment and the process they are going through looking at requirements up to 2022

You wouldn’t like to be minikin or Egodo listening to that interview. Can’t see much of a future at Cas for either.

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Re: Who else do we need?

Post by lurcher » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:33 pm

Casmoley wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
Sharlotiger wrote: How many have come through on Powells watch that have gone on to be SL regulars either with us or elsewhere?
Wouldn't like to guess at 2012/2013 when he took over as some may have been at the club before (e.g. Charlie Martin/Dan Fleming)

But after that we've had these all part of the first team squad:
* Ash Robson (York)
* Will Maher (Cas)
* Tom Holmes (Huddersfield)
* Brandon Moore (Halifax)
* Jordan Howden (Doncaster)
* Brandon Douglas (Doncaster)
* Brad England (Doncaster)
* Kieran Gill (Cas)
* Brandon Westerman (Unattached)
* Conor Fitzsimmons (Newcastle)
* Luke Million (Keighley)

Plus Jacques O'Neill, Turner, Storey and Carr. Don't know of any other ones in academy that have gone on to other clubs

Jack Rayy is at Dewsbury and Jack Render at Fev.
luis johnston went to wire but is now on loan to leigh.
jo brand is eddie warings love child

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