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Post by alftupper » 10 Dec 2018, 14:11

Looks like the Brexit vote is about to be postponed by TM

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Post by Flat Capper » 10 Dec 2018, 14:47

alftupper wrote:Looks like the Brexit vote is about to be postponed by TM
Great Leader, never changes her mind...
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Flat Capper wrote:
alftupper wrote:Looks like the Brexit vote is about to be postponed by TM
Great Leader, never changes her mind...
Same as great labour leader promising brexit and about to renege on a people's vote - Touche !

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Post by alftupper » 10 Dec 2018, 15:13

Has the beardy one changed his mind yet on the socialist utopia that is Venezuela since its citizens started starving to death and killing their pets in order to survive?

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Post by CasRus » 10 Dec 2018, 16:16

Alf, have you noticed how it goes deadly quite on the lefty side of this forum topic when we bring up things such as Baroness Osamor's sanctioned Life Peerage and her siblings discredited and removed from the labour party as to the dodgy makeup of their members and Corbyn's "Oh I'm a Brexiteer and promise to honour the vote and want out of Europe" and then changes his mind out of his drive for power and his vision of Utopia using the Venezuelan model which you quite rightly brought up !!! It feels like Tumbleweed drifting down a wild west town at times so I assume home truths do sometimes hit when nothing comes back from Capper and WF10 !!!!
They will be starting the criticism on May soon when the little darling has tried to please everyone and get's all that flak and still tries to get on with it when others would have badly floundered onto the rocks ! whether she's right or wrong, that's resilience for you ! Just goes to show when Jimmy Crankie in Scotland trying to team up with Labour to vote her out how it all comes down to self serving Party Politics and not in the interests of the country !

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Post by Flat Capper » 10 Dec 2018, 18:45

I suggest you read Labour's position on the Brexit deal - it may just enlighten you and give you the true understand of Uncle Jezza's actual view.

Fighting May's (or may not) plan is not the same as objecting t Brexit, after all, the great BexiteerReese Mogg is very much against this deal as well.

Anyhow, keeping blowing of the untruth's, it's the only thing you're good at and typical of a Daily Mail reader.

Oh, and bringing Venezuela into it won't divert the attention away from the crumbling Government otherwise I may just bring into the argument the old school milk policy of Mrs T. Try to keep up to date chaps even though you are lodge in Victorian times.
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Flat Capper wrote:I suggest you read Labour's position on the Brexit deal - it may just enlighten you and give you the true understand of Uncle Jezza's actual view.

Fighting May's (or may not) plan is not the same as objecting t Brexit, after all, the great BexiteerReese Mogg is very much against this deal as well.

Anyhow, keeping blowing of the untruth's, it's the only thing you're good at and typical of a Daily Mail reader.

Oh, and bringing Venezuela into it won't divert the attention away from the crumbling Government otherwise I may just bring into the argument the old school milk policy of Mrs T. Try to keep up to date chaps even though you are lodge in Victorian times.

Victorian Times ! ..aah those were the days when kids were kids and having fun in the streets with diddly squat money around and making their own entertainment and not like drug dealing and stabbing each other like today ! - What a world we now live in eh !!! Pity you lot as to what's coming as being in my 60s now, I won't be around thank god !

May has done her best to suit all and if she can get this clarity on the backstop in not being legally held in by the EU, this should go through - if it doesn't then both remain and leave will be the losers as Corbyn would not fare any better if he got in ! That is a fact !

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Post by Flat Capper » 10 Dec 2018, 19:01

CasRus wrote: So you don't think Capital Punishment, Chain gangs harsher sentences would stop the level of murders, stabbings, drug running etc etc ??????
You need to climb back in your box for dumbos and go back to sleep !
alftupper wrote: Just reading about the recent case in America where the bloke killed his wife and two little girls then dumbed them in a tank of oil like rubbish. He then tried to blame the wife he murdered. These are the type of people Capper and his kind have empathy with. What a warped mind.
alftupper wrote: not really it’s just that your posts are incoherent. Several times on this topic you have written one thing only to later try to wheedle your way out of it just like in this instance. I said it is good to terminate a murderer, you said that means ‘the innocent are killed on both sides’
very hard to follow your gibberish Capper
Just to clear things up for you idiots, I do not empathise with murderers; I want them dealt with through a judicial system that is fair and which supports victims but punishes the guilty. In the case of capital punishment, you have already acknowledged that killing the odd innocent individual, wrongly convicted, is a price worth paying. This view disgusts me and every other right minded human being. It must take a truly warped mind to believe in this system.
On capital punishment itself, there is no evidence to support the claim that it acts as a deterrent and is therefore neither use nor ornament. It simply cannot be justified for the reason above.

I would actually like to see a system where convicted murderers are kept in prisons that are not plushy hotels, with many luxuries the majority cannot afford. I want difficult conditions that create misery for the rest of their God forsaken lives. Where wrong convictions are exposed, the ‘victims’ can then be adequately compensated for their incorrect suffering.
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Post by WF10 » 10 Dec 2018, 19:38

On a day when the PM has been humiliated (again) and her Brexit deal is in tatters.

The Tory magic money tree has been shaken and £1.4BILLION has dropped out to bailout the Crossrail project (which has now been delayed until God knows when).

And you 2 want to talk about Venezuela and some Baroness no-one has ever heard of and her 'scandal', which, incidentally was only reported in The Daily Mail and The S*n?

Think the word you're looking for is DEFLECTION.
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Post by alftupper » 10 Dec 2018, 20:31

The Daily Mail is a remoaner propaganda rag so why would I read that? why don’t you two idiots educate yourselves instead of trotting out the same old hackneyed cliches?

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Post by alftupper » 10 Dec 2018, 20:46

Got to love Capper calls us idiots because he can’t translate his muddled thinking to the written word.

He seems to be hung up on wrongful convictions but capital punishment would only be an option for the most heinous crimes and convictions meeting the highest burden of proof. Capper is obviously worried that the likes of Ian Huntley, Robert Black, Mark Bridger et al are potential innocents wrongfully incarcerated. I say again warped.

By the way since 1976 there have been over 1,400 executions in the US and none have been posthumously pardoned. The only fault I can see with the US system is that the process takes far too long and is as expensive as life imprisonment.

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Flat Capper wrote:
CasRus wrote: So you don't think Capital Punishment, Chain gangs harsher sentences would stop the level of murders, stabbings, drug running etc etc ??????
You need to climb back in your box for dumbos and go back to sleep !
alftupper wrote: Just reading about the recent case in America where the bloke killed his wife and two little girls then dumbed them in a tank of oil like rubbish. He then tried to blame the wife he murdered. These are the type of people Capper and his kind have empathy with. What a warped mind.
alftupper wrote: not really it’s just that your posts are incoherent. Several times on this topic you have written one thing only to later try to wheedle your way out of it just like in this instance. I said it is good to terminate a murderer, you said that means ‘the innocent are killed on both sides’
very hard to follow your gibberish Capper
Just to clear things up for you idiots, I do not empathise with murderers; I want them dealt with through a judicial system that is fair and which supports victims but punishes the guilty. In the case of capital punishment, you have already acknowledged that killing the odd innocent individual, wrongly convicted, is a price worth paying. This view disgusts me and every other right minded human being. It must take a truly warped mind to believe in this system.
On capital punishment itself, there is no evidence to support the claim that it acts as a deterrent and is therefore neither use nor ornament. It simply cannot be justified for the reason above.

I would actually like to see a system where convicted murderers are kept in prisons that are not plushy hotels, with many luxuries the majority cannot afford. I want difficult conditions that create misery for the rest of their God forsaken lives. Where wrong convictions are exposed, the ‘victims’ can then be adequately compensated for their incorrect suffering.
So Capper, answer this, what was the point of incarcerating Ian Brady and Myrah Hindley for all thise years costing millions of pounds to the taxpayer with no worth to society anymore when they had clearly murdered those youngsters and left grieving families with one body never ever found and his mother died grieving after many years of grief !? Reading your response to me, your suggestion is to make an adequate compensation to the grieivng families which is what ? Monetary I take it to be what you mean ! Well let me tell you that no money in the world would be enough to compensate their loss of their children and to think that s an astonishing affront ! Don't you think that the millions of pounds it cost to keep them in ail would have been better spent in the NHS saving innocent lives and helping crippled kids ? I do ! Your thinking is totally flawed !

In answer to your question on being disgusted, I already said DNA advancements is virtually foolproof and like I also said, nothing is totally foolproof, but you line up harsher deterrants and methods and you will see the crime rate drop - just like the police knocking scumbags off mopeds that has dropped this type of crime already by 30%. Better to save many murders going on by CP deterrant and yes there can be an odd mishap but look how many lives this deterrant would help not being wiped out and leave families grieving for the rest of their lives. It's a price worth paying for the risk of accidentally hanging an innocent - and by the way that should only happen if it's beyond doubt proved by DNA I would say. If you don't think CP is a deterrant, go look at Saudi Arabia's murder figures with the beheading deterrant per capita, it's minimal and only a handful !! So don't think CP is a deterrant then think again, because it is !

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Post by WF10 » 10 Dec 2018, 22:25

Hahahahaha!!!

What a bulb!!
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WF10 wrote:Hahahahaha!!!

What a bulb!!

Where there's a bulb, there's light ! Where there isn't in your case.........there's sh..........ite !

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HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!

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Post by WF10 » 11 Dec 2018, 08:34

Did you actually check the murder rate in Saudi Arabia?

See, this is what we spoke about last week.
You would think that the murder rate in Saudi Arabia is lower than the UK, due to the risk of having your head chopped off etc.

It's probably a natural thing to assume.

But when it's not backed up with the actual figures then you surely have to question your assumptions?

The most recent figures, verified by the UN, (2015) show Saudi Arabia to have a murder rate of 1.50 per 100,000 inhabitants.

Compared to the UK, which in 2016, had a murder rate of 1.20 per 100,000.
And hasn't had a rate as high as 1.50 since 2004.

Sh............ite indeed.
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Post by alftupper » 11 Dec 2018, 10:21

You can’t draw a comparison between Saudi Arabia and the UK you dolt, honestly it is like trying to reason with two 4 year olds. Saudi Arabia is a backward 10th century country, the question is what would their murder rate be without capital punishment. Deary deary me.

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It wasn't me who brought up Saudi Arabia.

Dolt.
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WF10 wrote:It wasn't me who brought up Saudi Arabia.

Dolt.

Has anyone of you worked in Saudi Arabia ? I Have !

If you are caught stealing you have your hand(s) cut off and I can tell you that I walked a number of times down shopping malls full of gold shops that were left open while the owners were praying 5 times a day and the incidence of any theft was virtually zero while I was there because of those types of deterrant.

The point I'm making is having effective and sensible but harsh deterrants in place (and I'm not advocating beheadings and limbs cut off by the way as there is a limit in being too barbaric) would reduce incidence of crime on our streets. Any harsh consequence will make criminals think twice as it already has on the Police and moped strategy by 30% - you cannot dispute this fact to be true as its now been officially reported.

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CasRus wrote:
WF10 wrote:It wasn't me who brought up Saudi Arabia.

Dolt.

Has anyone of you worked in Saudi Arabia ? I Have !

If you are caught stealing you have your hand(s) cut off and I can tell you that I walked a number of times down shopping malls full of gold shops that were left open while the owners were praying 5 times a day and the incidence of any theft was virtually zero while I was there because of those types of deterrant.

The point I'm making is having effective and sensible but harsh deterrants in place (and I'm not advocating beheadings and limbs cut off by the way as there is a limit in being too barbaric) would reduce incidence of crime on our streets. Any harsh consequence will make criminals think twice as it already has on the Police and moped strategy by 30% - you cannot dispute this fact to be true as its now been officially reported.
Congratulations on that.

You specifically said murder rather than robbing tom shops.

And you said the threat of decapitation is an effective deterrent. I simply pointed out that the murder rate there is higher than here, rendering your argument completely false.

In other words, you are chatting sh........ ite.
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