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Post by alftupper » 03 Dec 2018, 21:49

Flat Capper wrote: And, by calling you a keyboard warrior I'm suggesting it's easy for you to sit there behind your keyboard and demand a strong response. I'm sure you'd be more than capable of driving into a motorcyclist with extensive risk of injury or even death. Why don't you join the MET and put yourself in the frontline of a public service?
I have not demanded anything, simply agreeing with the current police policy. I would imagine most of the police would view this as a perk of the job.

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Post by WF10 » 04 Dec 2018, 08:38

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WF10 wrote: I think a more proactive approach should be taken whereby the police are resourced to do their job properly & resource local authorities to deliver preventative and diversionary activities.

Reckon that'd work better than letting the short handed, over worked, under resourced police decide who gets rammed off their scooter myself.
completely missing the point that the crime wave taking place in London right now needs urgent action not some waffle about police funding and providing leisure centres for the poor little darlings
OK.

1. Arrest them and 60+% will reoffend upon release.
2. Ram them off their scooters, injuring them. & when they recover from their injuries they will miraculously be cured of their criminal tendencies.
3. Ram them off their scooters, killing them. Because there is no precedent for this action leading to tension against the police in high crime areas (marches/riots etc).

Foolproof.
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WF10 wrote:
alftupper wrote:
WF10 wrote: I think a more proactive approach should be taken whereby the police are resourced to do their job properly & resource local authorities to deliver preventative and diversionary activities.

Reckon that'd work better than letting the short handed, over worked, under resourced police decide who gets rammed off their scooter myself.
completely missing the point that the crime wave taking place in London right now needs urgent action not some waffle about police funding and providing leisure centres for the poor little darlings
OK.

1. Arrest them and 60+% will reoffend upon release.
2. Ram them off their scooters, injuring them. & when they recover from their injuries they will miraculously be cured of their criminal tendencies.
3. Ram them off their scooters, killing them. Because there is no precedent for this action leading to tension against the police in high crime areas (marches/riots etc).

Foolproof.

Alf, you are wasting your time on WF10 - you can't educate Pork !!

He just hasn't got a Scooby Doo !!!

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Post by WF10 » 04 Dec 2018, 11:42

If you can't see anything wrong with giving the police the powers to attempt to kill (by driving their cars into people on scooters) whoever they like, then you're a lost cause.

Oh, but you read The Daily Mail - you know everything.

Silly me.
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WF10 wrote:If you can't see anything wrong with giving the police the powers to attempt to kill (by driving their cars into people on scooters) whoever they like
what an idiotic thing to say

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That's the point, dim-wit.
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Post by alftupper » 04 Dec 2018, 13:02

WF10 wrote:That's the point, dim-wit.
They haven’t been given the powers to kill people you clown

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Post by WF10 » 04 Dec 2018, 13:21

Just ram their cars into people on mopeds they suspect to have committed a crime. Sound.
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Post by Flat Capper » 04 Dec 2018, 14:14

alftupper wrote:
WF10 wrote:That's the point, dim-wit.
They haven’t been given the powers to kill people you clown
Am I safe to assume that should one of these incidents result in the death of the scooter rider, you will take the route of defending the Police Officer for doing their job and it's the fault of the scooter rider for partaking in such activities?
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Flat Capper wrote:
alftupper wrote:
WF10 wrote:That's the point, dim-wit.
They haven’t been given the powers to kill people you clown
Am I safe to assume that should one of these incidents result in the death of the scooter rider, you will take the route of defending the Police Officer for doing their job and it's the fault of the scooter rider for partaking in such activities?
Haven't you heard Capper?
Police can act as judge, jury & potential executioner now.
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Flat Capper wrote:
alftupper wrote:
WF10 wrote:That's the point, dim-wit.
They haven’t been given the powers to kill people you clown
Am I safe to assume that should one of these incidents result in the death of the scooter rider, you will take the route of defending the Police Officer for doing their job and it's the fault of the scooter rider for partaking in such activities?
if said individual had just robbed me or my family at knifepoint I would take said officer out and buy him a pint and a slap up meal.

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Does your carer know you have internet access?
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Post by alftupper » 05 Dec 2018, 13:37

why the insults?

ironic that I was earlier called a keyboard warrior

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Post by WF10 » 05 Dec 2018, 13:52

The fact that you'd congratulate someone for killing a person. Clearly the work of someone not quite all there.

And come off it Alf, as if I've not been insulted in this thread! :lol:
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Post by alftupper » 05 Dec 2018, 15:35

WF10 wrote:The fact that you'd congratulate someone for killing a person. Clearly the work of someone not quite all there.
We clearly have differing opinions but there’s no need for insults insinuating mental illness because of it. I could easily argue that anyone who wouldn’t celebrate hanging the likes of Ian Brady etc etc would ‘not quite be all there’

You are the criminals friend and would prefer them to escape capture and go on to kill their next victim rather than see them get battered and bruised in a collision. I totally disagree but that’s your opinion and it is clear from these last few pages where your sympathies lay and it’s not with the victims. I couldn’t disagree more.

I believe in ridding society of rubbish not wasting time and resources trying to rehabilitate them.

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Post by CasRus » 05 Dec 2018, 16:35

alftupper wrote:
WF10 wrote:The fact that you'd congratulate someone for killing a person. Clearly the work of someone not quite all there.
We clearly have differing opinions but there’s no need for insults insinuating mental illness because of it. I could easily argue that anyone who wouldn’t celebrate hanging the likes of Ian Brady etc etc would ‘not quite be all there’

You are the criminals friend and would prefer them to escape capture and go on to kill their next victim rather than see them get battered and bruised in a collision. I totally disagree but that’s your opinion and it is clear from these last few pages where your sympathies lay and it’s not with the victims. I couldn’t disagree more.

I believe in ridding society of rubbish not wasting time and resources trying to rehabilitate them.

Exactly my thoughts Alf - WF10 would finish up in a world of stress and pain on the doctrine and pretence he adheres to which is the way it's unfortunately going at this point in time and that's the reason the Police are having to resort to stronger tactics as much as it is considered extreme in keeping this world a safer place.

I wonder what WF10's opinion would be if his baby daughter was smashed into by these moped scumbags and she finished up in a wheelchair for the rest of her life !!!! That's the type of risk they pose so, I'd rather them get hospitalized rather than inncocent kids art risk.

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Post by WF10 » 05 Dec 2018, 17:23

CasRus wrote:
alftupper wrote:
WF10 wrote:The fact that you'd congratulate someone for killing a person. Clearly the work of someone not quite all there.
We clearly have differing opinions but there’s no need for insults insinuating mental illness because of it. I could easily argue that anyone who wouldn’t celebrate hanging the likes of Ian Brady etc etc would ‘not quite be all there’

You are the criminals friend and would prefer them to escape capture and go on to kill their next victim rather than see them get battered and bruised in a collision. I totally disagree but that’s your opinion and it is clear from these last few pages where your sympathies lay and it’s not with the victims. I couldn’t disagree more.

I believe in ridding society of rubbish not wasting time and resources trying to rehabilitate them.

Exactly my thoughts Alf - WF10 would finish up in a world of stress and pain on the doctrine and pretence he adheres to which is the way it's unfortunately going at this point in time and that's the reason the Police are having to resort to stronger tactics as much as it is considered extreme in keeping this world a safer place.

I wonder what WF10's opinion would be if his baby daughter was smashed into by these moped scumbags and she finished up in a wheelchair for the rest of her life !!!! That's the type of risk they pose so, I'd rather them get hospitalized rather than inncocent kids art risk.
As stated on page 47
I feel the policy is flawed - if they can get close enough to knock them off they can get close enough to stop them.

No issue with criminals being caught, arrested, put on trial & sentenced to prison.

I do have an issue with the police ramming their car into people on mopeds.

The police should have an issue with it themselves, especially when you consider the actual role of the police (below)

The police have core operational duties which include:

protecting lifeand property
preserving order
preventing the commission of offences
bringing offenders to justice.


Can you see the contradiction?
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Protecting Life and Property - "of Law Abiding Citizens" should be added in my book !

All bets should be off if people to wish to go to the dark side ! They don't give a rat's arse who gets injured or killed so these Police principles should not apply to these scumbags ! Live by the sword, die by the sword if this happens in my book - I don't give a rats arse if they don't, which is what they do, so why defend them WF10 ? contradiction "needs" to be sorted properly ! - Note Police have been trained to knock them off with minimum injury but if they are maimed for life or killed, they know the consequences of their actions ! Try telling your reasoning to the family members remaining after that car chase 4 weeks ago when a family got wiped out with 2 kids in a head on collision with those 17 year old scumbags !

When you have finished having a go at Police tactics which you remain adamant on continuing, I am sure they will have exhausted all means of methods in stopping this crimewave so I'm sure they would have thought this out but nothing is ever foolproof with criminal's changing their methods to leech off society ! If you were in bed covered in bed lice and lay there flicking them off only for them to shake themselves down, jump back on you and proliferate and make your life a misery, you would soon come round to resorting to killing them off with a treatment ! So what's different ! Just because it's a human we are talking about in comparison would contradict your look on all type of life !

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Protecting Life and Property - "of Law Abiding Citizens" should be added in my book !

All bets should be off if people to wish to go to the dark side ! They don't give a rat's arse who gets injured or killed so these Police principles should not apply to these scumbags ! Live by the sword, die by the sword if this happens in my book - I don't give a rats arse if they don't, which is what they do, so why defend them WF10 ? contradiction "needs" to be sorted properly ! - Note Police have been trained to knock them off with minimum injury but if they are maimed for life or killed, they know the consequences of their actions ! Try telling your reasoning to the family members remaining after that car chase 4 weeks ago when a family got wiped out with 2 kids in a head on collision with those 17 year old scumbags !

When you have finished having a go at Police tactics which you remain adamant on continuing, I am sure they will have exhausted all means of methods in stopping this crimewave so I'm sure they would have thought this out but nothing is ever foolproof with criminal's changing their methods to leech off society ! If you were in bed covered in bed lice and lay there flicking them off only for them to shake themselves down, jump back on you and proliferate and make your life a misery, you would soon come round to resorting to killing them off with a treatment ! So what's different ! Just because it's a human we are talking about in comparison would contradict your look on all type of life !

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by Flat Capper » 05 Dec 2018, 18:26

Gents, I've got to say you've lost the plot.

Firstly, if the Police are only protecting "law abiding citizens" you're probably ruling yourself out of protect. Have you ever broken the speed limit, parked illegally, bought an alcoholic drink below the age of 18 or even used foul language in a public space that is likely to have offended someone within earshot? There are many laws that most folk aren't aware of and even less likely to know whether they've broken them.

Secondly, in my books wanting someone killed for whatever reason makes you no better than the so called criminals themselves. Giving the Police cart blanche to kill someone by ramming them with a patrol car is certainly not what I would expect in a civilised country.

Punishing convicted criminals through adequate sentencing however does have a place in a civilised society.
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