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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by CasRus » 29 Nov 2018, 16:05

Yes it hard to imagine why people don't want people to be "scrapped off" who cause abject misery, wound and kill people in the name of their short route to money which is inflicted onto the many citizens who are law abiding - try telling that to parents who have seen their child succumb to the drug culture and the psychological effects that is left for years to others after being targeted by these thugs !

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Post by WF10 » 29 Nov 2018, 16:28

Try telling it to the mother of Henry Hicks.
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Post by alftupper » 29 Nov 2018, 17:01

WF10 wrote:Imagine not wanting the Police to deliberately run people over. Weirdos.
and there we have it, WF10the friend and defender of violent scum. Typical socialist, let’s hope he doesn’t get mugged at knifepoint he’d have to change his warped view.

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Post by alftupper » 29 Nov 2018, 17:14

WF10 wrote:Try telling it to the mother of Henry Hicks.
Never heard of him but I’ve had a quick Google.

First off the police didn’t knock him off so not sure what relevance it has to clown Abbott’s comment.

Looks like he failed to stop for police (maybe due to all the drugs and mobile phones he was carrying) instigating a high speed pursuit endangering the public. Thankfully he didn’t injure any innocent bystanders. All the police were cleared of wrongdoing at the inquest.

Maybe the police should just not bother apprehending wrongdoers you’d be happy then

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Post by WF10 » 29 Nov 2018, 17:37

alftupper wrote:
WF10 wrote:Try telling it to the mother of Henry Hicks.
Never heard of him but I’ve had a quick Google.

First off the police didn’t knock him off so not sure what relevance it has to clown Abbott’s comment.

Looks like he failed to stop for police (maybe due to all the drugs and mobile phones he was carrying) instigating a high speed pursuit endangering the public. Thankfully he didn’t injure any innocent bystanders. All the police were cleared of wrongdoing at the inquest.

Maybe the police should just not bother apprehending wrongdoers you’d be happy then
The Independent Police Complaints Commission also found that the officers “conducted a pursuit without authorisation from a senior officer in the control room”.

“It is the opinion of the investigator that the officers also did not consider the risks to Henry of the pursuit or make any considerations as to whether he may have been a juvenile,” the watchdog said last year.

An 18 year old boy, with no criminal convictions (despite being stopped and searched 50+ times in the previous few years) obviously deserved to die due to having 3 mobile phones, £100 worth of weed and 200odd quid on him.
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Post by CasRus » 29 Nov 2018, 18:22

So, letting drug runners kill innocent people with drugs and leaving parents and families heartbroken is the answer eh ?

Just look at the family that died in a head on collision with those scumbags driving at huge excessive speed from the police !

So you just want to make the problem grow and grow ???? Give me an [Cut out the swearing] break !!

The Police have to carry out to stamp it out otherwise the whole society will be affected - No deterents means total lawlessness and the cancer grows ! It might be your nearest and dearest affected next WF10 !

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Post by WF10 » 29 Nov 2018, 18:28

CasRus wrote:So, letting drug runners kill innocent people with drugs and leaving parents and families heartbroken is the answer eh ?
No.

No more than letting the police kill innocent people is either.

I'm not sure how 'drug runners' are able to kill innocent people with drugs either? Care to enlighten us?
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Post by CasRus » 29 Nov 2018, 18:48

Making Available and Supply ! That my friend is totally obvious ! That along with Turf Wars (killing each other, recruiting kids and giving them knives to defend themselves), County Line supply etc etc ! I think you need to see more news and get yourself educated more on the drug trade and how it is damaging society !

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CasRus wrote:Making Available and Supply ! That my friend is totally obvious ! That along with Turf Wars (killing each other, recruiting kids and giving them knives to defend themselves), County Line supply etc etc ! I think you need to see more news and get yourself educated more on the drug trade and how it is damaging society !
And, just to re-iterate - watch Sky News tonight if you don’t believe me as that just shows what’s going on with CountyLines drug trafficking ! Get yourself educated instead of sitting there making holier than thou stupid comments !

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Post by WF10 » 29 Nov 2018, 19:15

You literally have no idea what you are on about.
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WF10 wrote:You literally have no idea what you are on about.
All I can say is that you must be as thick as P.gSh.t !

You need to get up to speed matey !

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Post by alftupper » 29 Nov 2018, 20:46

WF10 wrote: No more than letting the police kill innocent people is either.
We aren’t talking about innocent people, you’ve just brought that up to try and justify your crazy argument

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Post by WF10 » 29 Nov 2018, 20:52

CasRus wrote:
WF10 wrote:You literally have no idea what you are on about.
All I can say is that you must be as thick as P.gSh.t !

You need to get up to speed matey !
So because you read it in the Daily Mail and see it on Sky News, you're an expert on 'drug runners' and 'turf wars'? Terms which no-one under the age of 55 use, by the way.

And I, as someone who works with young vulnerable people in one of the UK's most deprived areas day after day, don't understand the issues facing young people and am thick?

Like I said before, no idea. Not a single clue.
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Post by WF10 » 29 Nov 2018, 20:59

alftupper wrote:
WF10 wrote: No more than letting the police kill innocent people is either.
We aren’t talking about innocent people, you’ve just brought that up to try and justify your crazy argument
Henry Hicks wasn't a criminal. Had zero convictions. Ergo, was innocent.

Trying to justify police officers being able to intentionally drive their motor vehicles into other people is right up there with one of the daftest and most dangerous 'policies' I've ever heard of.

All under the guise of having a pop at a black woman in power as well.
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Post by CasRus » 30 Nov 2018, 10:02

WF10 wrote:
alftupper wrote:
WF10 wrote: No more than letting the police kill innocent people is either.
We aren’t talking about innocent people, you’ve just brought that up to try and justify your crazy argument
Henry Hicks wasn't a criminal. Had zero convictions. Ergo, was innocent.

Trying to justify police officers being able to intentionally drive their motor vehicles into other people is right up there with one of the daftest and most dangerous 'policies' I've ever heard of.

All under the guise of having a pop at a black woman in power as well.
So why was he found with 3 phones and drugs in his possession if he wasn't performing a criminal act ??? You can't say just because he hadn't had previous form that he wasn't a criminal when he was obviously carrying out a criminal act when he met this disastrous end and I am not defending the police action here not knowing the full extent of hoe this came about - it's the same as the court case going on just now with the guy shot dead and was found to have a gun on him in the car apprehended with others in the car saying they didn't know he was carrying a gun - The police go into these situations and have to do what they think s best or they finish up dead instead so not every action can be right after hindsight. The fact is coming back to knocking scum off their bikes is that it has reduced this type of crime by a massive amount so has had the desired effect irrespective of what is considered "queensbury rules" - criminals don't play that game and never will so if you have a crime wave out of control you have to meet fire with fire and yes some people will end up dead but just think about the many innocent people effected and who could well finish up dead that this type of action is now preventing from happening. Innocent people dead or scumbags dead - I know which I would pick so your argument does not bear any substance in my opinion.


Oh and by the way, I am not racist as you seem to make out by having a pop at me about a "black" woman in power ! Nothing to do with colour mate, She is out of her depth, inept and playing the "human rights" system to her advantage in my opinion - God help us if labour get into power with her making critical decisions !

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by alftupper » 30 Nov 2018, 10:15

WF10 wrote:
alftupper wrote:
WF10 wrote: No more than letting the police kill innocent people is either.
We aren’t talking about innocent people, you’ve just brought that up to try and justify your crazy argument
Henry Hicks wasn't a criminal. Had zero convictions. Ergo, was innocent.

Trying to justify police officers being able to intentionally drive their motor vehicles into other people is right up there with one of the daftest and most dangerous 'policies' I've ever heard of.

All under the guise of having a pop at a black woman in power as well.
You say he was innocent so why didn’t he simply stop? He wasn’t innocent he was guilty of a long list of serious motoring affences during that chase, he would also have had to explain the large quantities of skunk and cell phones he was carrying. If a police car flashes me I pull over, I am a law abiding member of society with nothing to hide I don’t initiate a high speed car chase. Also you need to get it into your head the police didn’t kill him it was his choice to do what he did and as far as I read he crashed into traffic under his own steam he wasn’t shoved off so why on Earth you chose to bring this up as a defence of Abbott’s comment I’ve no idea.

As for Abbott being black I hadn’t noticed and it speaks volumes that the hysterical socialist should bring up the fact. I suppose you think the current Home Secretary is doing a fine job, if not why...

Maybe working with ‘young vulnerable little dears’ has addled your brain. Of all the comments I’ve heard from all sides of the political spectrum regarding Abbotts comments yours is the first I’ve heard giving unqualified support.
Beginning to wonder if you are a troll.

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Post by WF10 » 30 Nov 2018, 10:29

So.

This policy is to act as a deterrent to people who commit crimes and use mopeds as a means of escape/evasion?

Because they'll be thinking "if I do this crime, then get on a moped I know the police have the authority/justification to physically knock me off and, best case scenario, I'll be arrested".

That right?
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Post by WF10 » 30 Nov 2018, 10:48

The first innocent person who gets injured/killed as a result of this practice will prove that Abbott is right on this issue.
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Post by alftupper » 30 Nov 2018, 13:57

WF10 wrote:The first innocent person who gets injured/killed as a result of this practice will prove that Abbott is right on this issue.
Think about what you are saying man, there are innocent people serving sentences in prison right now so should we stop our judicial system?
You refuse to accept that the risk placed on these moped thugs would be eliminated if they just stopped for the police, I’m not sure why it won’t sink in with you they are running away from the police they can prevent being knocked off simply by stopping and cooperating with them. Why are they evading the police? That’s right, they are up to no good. What would be your solution, an arm around the shoulder and tea and biscuits, maybe some touchy feely councilling to establush if they had trouble with their potty during early infancy?

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Was Jean Charles de Menezes up to no good?
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