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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by ERG2012 » 20 Apr 2018, 22:21

laner wrote:A centre with size and pace is sadly lacking pluss a no 6 who can create and make a break seems ages since we saw both
Kemp and Blackmore....

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Jonny1975 » 20 Apr 2018, 22:25

Agree with most posts tonight, but not Millingtons lack of effort. For me Ellis has to come in for Roberts, once again missing in action, just coasts thru games, absolutely stealing a wage at back end of his career. Don't get McMeekan starting on the bench, play Wardle in centres for Shenton, who looks like that ACL injury from 2 yrs ago has caught up with him, genuinely would not be disappointed or surprised if he retired at end of season. Webbo was uncharacteristically poor tonight, sometimes not entirely his fault, but probably needs a rest. Hopefully Moors n Lefao back soon, I'd drop Milner in a heart beat for them, becoming a liability. Still not sure about Truman at FB, seems to run into other players channels when coming into line. No panic button pressed but defo a wake up call.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Binman7000 » 20 Apr 2018, 22:25

Roberts has just been anonymous this season id like to see Ellis back in and it gives us another option on the last tackle.
Ref was poor tonight we didn’t get a fair crack at it. We are really missing Eden imo

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Sharlotiger » 20 Apr 2018, 22:26

Give plenty of credit to Wane, they really isolated Webster and Burgess was just far too quick for him, but that came from Gales poor kicking putting Wigans back 3 in plenty of space.
Milner is the same every week, plenty of effort but undoes any good he does by giving away needless penalties, I would certainly drop him , Foster offers far more and gives far better value for money.
Roberts went missing yet again and we may as well go back to Ellis , at least he offers a kicking threat.
Plenty for DP to work on this week and our lack of speed in the backs must be a concern, Hardaker had defences worried with his pace and we haven't found away to play without him, now good defences like Wigan are defending us with ease.
If we are serious of being a top 4 team things need to change.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by duke street 10 » 20 Apr 2018, 22:43

Too many errors,too many silly penalties,too many of experienced players went missing (Roberts,Shenton) or had mare's (Webster,Gale & his kicking game).

Question is do you wield the axe to some or give them a chance to redeem themselves next Friday?

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Towns88 » 20 Apr 2018, 22:43

Roberts varies from diabolical to none existent week in week out yet retains his spot. Jake Webster has probably had 1 bad game in 100 games for us and has varied from been consistent and good to stand out.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by init » 20 Apr 2018, 22:51

Towns88 wrote: Jake Webster has probably had 1 bad game in 100 games for us and has varied from been consistent and good to stand out.
^^^^^^^ This

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Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » 20 Apr 2018, 23:13

SuffolkTiger wrote:
Nu Shooze wrote:Unusually poor tonight but he wasn’t alone. Shenton anonymous, Trueman far too lateral on attack but Gale’s kicking was the big problem. Absolutely dire.

Having said that, 3 tries from one-on-one misses.
Spot on about Luke's distance kicking - it's the worst of any half back in SL. Kick offs the same.

I'd also add we were:
- out tackled
- bullied up the middle by their fat lads
- both centres intimidated & bewildered
- Benny totally ineffective
Agree totally. They were the better side. Not by 3 scores though but still a disappointing swcond half with too many negatives. Plenty to come from us I feel but too many poor to average performances tonight.
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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Mysterio » 20 Apr 2018, 23:18

How anyone can bemoan the lads to such an extent is pretty bad imo.

Roberts wasn’t great. Gale neither. But the kicking game was hampered by enthusiastic Wigan D and lack of field position!!!

For the first time ever, Webster looked his age. He is a great player and bloke, but, a centre opposite him with pace and a decent fend and he’s isolated. I wouldn’t renew his deal -I’d nring in a dynamite outside back from DU.

Trueman isn’t the answer. We need to find money for s fullback urgently. That’s the Apriority for me!?

We looked a bit jaded after the first few sets. The first few sets were tremendous.

Think we’ll see a massive I,prove,ent next week.

Nring a full back In. PLEASE.
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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Bramley Tiger » 20 Apr 2018, 23:21

Webster had a bad game and I might be tempted to give him a rest next week but i'd put him straight back in after that as I have full confidence in him.wigan just a bit too good for us and to be fair I think saints or them will be champs this year.we are a competitive solid team just lacking in something to really challenge this year.yet another scoreless second half-this must really be a concern to powell and the coaching staff.you can't win every game so hopefully we rebound next week.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by The Firm » 20 Apr 2018, 23:32

Webster had a bad game yes but lets not throw the baby out with the bath water here. He rarely lets us down and will ne mortified at that, he deserves support and the chamce to put it right which i’m sure he’ll do.

Roberts though is another matter. It’s about time the hide and seek champion got put out to grass.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by WallTiger » 20 Apr 2018, 23:55

We had too many players off their game tonight and were beaten by the better team but lets not forget we also had a short turnaround after a gruelling Easter programme in which we played 2 games in horrendous conditions. I’m therefore surprised Powell didn’t rotate the team a bit more.

Also whilst Hicks wasn’t great and was not the reason we lost his penalty against Webbo in the 1st half for interference on the last was laughable. He never changed his line and the pathetic Sky commentary team could only say he ‘accelerated’ and that’s why the penalty was given! So you can’t run fast now...seriously you couldn’t make this crap up sometimes. Is it a wonder the game is losing credibility.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Davc1h » 20 Apr 2018, 23:58

The Firm wrote:Webster had a bad game yes but lets not throw the baby out with the bath water here. He rarely lets us down and will ne mortified at that, he deserves support and the chamce to put it right which i’m sure he’ll do.

Roberts though is another matter. It’s about time the hide and seek champion got put out to grass.
Totally agree, Webster had a mare but we can forgive that as he is normally excellent.

Roberts just not doing it at the moment and Gale kicking is woeful at best.

Some soul searching for DP this week.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by flow » 21 Apr 2018, 00:57

you don't need to be an expert to see what s up missing an attacking full back as totally frown are game were miles away from last years attack dry pitch today no excuse about playing in bad conditions same result no secound half attack at all . said not getting a top class centre would come back and bite us half way through season . Future aim as to be to sign attacking fullback and big go forward centre who can also pass . If it means off loading some forwards for salary cap.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Danny Boy » 21 Apr 2018, 07:25

Jake had his worst game in a Cas shirt, but as every supporter knows, he’s usually one of our most consistent players in attack and defence, it’s not the time to write Jake off yet, I’m sure he’ll come back with another barnstorming game v Wakey!
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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by tallguyx » 21 Apr 2018, 07:52

I think 1st half we weren’t far off, the burgess break was lucky he caught jake off balance. They got plenty of momentum from the referee,that escorting penalty was the other mistake he made but in second half Wigan did it loads we got nothing.

I think with Eden in we would’ve been closer In score,disappointing yes end of the world no.

As for Hicks the less said the better near the end that decision he changed when Wigan ranted at him was a joke. And the missed free play for us.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by ERG2012 » 21 Apr 2018, 08:04

Most players have a "Mare" though Webbo will be the first one wanting to rectify his below par performance. I think we have other issues to sort out before Jakes' performance. Though as someone else has eluded to is it the first signs of him being exposed due to wear and tear along with age?

Our kicking game - never hits grass nor attain enough distance for territory. It's terrible and so easy to defend against. - Sam basically had to stand there and catch it....not move....then launch the attack.... We rarely split the back three if ever. Plus penalty kicks to touch. Another 15m should be simple at this level. The engine room would love you for it!

Our Fullback - this is a top priority. Goes to show what difference it makes when you have a good un. Trueman doesn't have any authority for me but our best option at the moment.... Which is why we have to make it a priority signing

Our Disapline when we are in the opposition's 20. We piggyback teams with basically stupidity. It's the chance to apply pressure or force an error. Milner needs a rest whether his contract is due for renewal or not he's a liability at the moment.

DP needs to make players aware that they are not untouchable when it comes to selection.

Players need to look at their own personal performance and be honest with themselves and ask are they performing to their potential. There's a few expecting the likes of Millington to be consistently going the business without stepping up to the plate themselves. Personally I would have made Millo captain a few seasons ago.

Our second half syndrome is a massive concern.

We need a shake up squad wise and get some serious quality in instead of the endless "project" options. Marquee signing needed at 1 or 6.

Lots of work to do after last night. We're away from Saints and Wigan and it's not just losing Hardaker that's causing our problems

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by heritage1926 » 21 Apr 2018, 08:13

I personally think it's time Shenny gets dropped from the captaincy. I was watching him in the huddle everytime we conceded and he doesn't say a word, he just stands there staring at the ground. He offers no words or motivation yet you watch Gale and he's screaming. It wasn't even just last night, unseen to mention it to people every week at games. For me it's time someone else stood up and let Shenny get on with his game, he's been poor this year for me.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Riggins » 21 Apr 2018, 08:38

Big fan of Webbo and the bloke will be hurting after his performance last night as will a number of others. But these are proud professional players and they know they need to right some wrongs against Wakey on Friday.
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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Fumper27 » 21 Apr 2018, 08:50

Dropped, no. Rested, maybe.

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